Blake 19.26 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dix ran well under .2 faster than at world's (if he lost some weight, what could he run? incredible), ndure was just off, ashmeade around earlier seasonal best, so it was only Blake's time, 1/2 s better while hardly improving at 100m, that is a headscratcher. now mj wasn't 6'5" (maybe three inches shorter?) but blake is now faster with a terrible rt? He should be running 9.6s now. If drugs aren't at the base of this, I will be stunned.

Geez, do you really have that much faith in PEDs? Read this, then come back and post...

Somebody wrote Bolt,Gay,Blake,Dix,Lemaitre.The french boy

does not belong in this class.With everybody healthy in

London,he will be lucky to make the final.

Its not possible to have a successful state run doping in Jamaica so you need to come up with something else.

I think Peds are overrated; genetics and system are underrated. Jamaica is clearly a place that has pockets of genetic talent, plus these days they have a system for identifying talent. The East Germans had a system, the Chinese had a system. Drugs cannot make you exceed your natural limits, they can just take you to your limits a bit quicker. Obviously it is still 'cheating'.

But genes can give you natural limits that exceed other people's, and a system will find you and develop you.

I read that nicotine is now a performance enhancer. The whole thing is getting out of hand.

All the BALCO systematic doping program was happening when Michael Johson was breaking world records. It is hard to believe that he was not part of this program or some other obscure program. MJ was no taller than 5'10".

jjjjjjjj wrote:

dix ran well under .2 faster than at world's (if he lost some weight, what could he run? incredible), ndure was just off, ashmeade around earlier seasonal best, so it was only Blake's time, 1/2 s better while hardly improving at 100m, that is a headscratcher. now mj wasn't 6'5" (maybe three inches shorter?) but blake is now faster with a terrible rt? He should be running 9.6s now. If drugs aren't at the base of this, I will be stunned.

Doubt wrote:

MJ was no taller than 5'10".

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moshimoshi wrote:

Drugs cannot make you exceed your natural limits

Someone doesnt't know how PED's work

:|} wrote:

Doubt wrote:

MJ was no taller than 5'10".

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6'1" according to:

(track_and_field)

Usain needs to stop sharing his drugs.

Does anyone know how easy it is to ship PEDS into Jamaica from Mexico and Europe....

Chinese bulldozing ninjas sited in Rieti so of course only a matter of time until Brussels goes kerchunka chunka, clang, clang, poof!

Suspicious wrote:

notkosher wrote:

I hear you. Same way I felt when I heard a white guy had broken 10 seconds for 100m and 20 seconds for 200m. And then today Rupp finished ahead of several Africans and sets an Amercian record. Not to mention Uceny. Hmmm....

Obviously the track was short today. I bet they call in the Chinese to bulldoze it tomorrow.

Why do you "think" these things. Just a feeling? Bias!!

categorically wrote:

Just so we're clear, this isn't a Jamaican thing for me. I think Bolt's 19.19 is clean. But I don't think Blake's 19.26 is clean. Lot's of Americans have doped but I think Johnson's 19.32 is clean.

DickGregory wrote:

Why do you "think" these things. Just a feeling? Bias!!

categorically wrote:

Just so we're clear, this isn't a Jamaican thing for me. I think Bolt's 19.19 is clean. But I don't think Blake's 19.26 is clean. Lot's of Americans have doped but I think Johnson's 19.32 is clean.

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Me too.

Clean cos its been so hard for him to gert back there.

Clean because he is a physical genius in brobdignagian proportions.

Clean cos he had a rtremendous track meet at a certain part in time.

MJ cos y9ou could see t hat it was always there. Enormous talent. Unique technique. And when he finally did it, he hurt himself and never ran that fast again.

Similar to TG - who runs his body on the absolute linmit.

Blake - that last 50 meters was not a 'natural' decline.

I don't think there is any bias? Are you saying black white? USA Jamaican? Those things are pretty petty. There are probably as many Jamaicans in NYC as there are in Jamaica.

So the explanation of Bolt being so fast was because he was tall. Now those people are forced to scratch their head and wonder what could be wrong about their theory when a guy 5' 9" runs almost the same time. Hmmm..could it be that there was a hole in the theory??

Bring in Shaq and Yao Ming and train them to run sub 9.

All joking aside:

When Bolt ran 9.58 and 19.19 every single one of us understood that sprinting had been taken to another level. To a level that only he Bolt would be able to enter.

Me - I saw him run the 200M in Osaka in 2007. I saw him 10 months later breaking the world record in 100M in NYC. Look at the percentage improvements and compare that to any sprinter. I ran the sprints competitively and I am telling you that it is incredible difficult to run sub 10.2. Bolt in his qualifying heats was jogging 10.00

Everyone talked about him being a phenom...

Now we have another phenom from the same country, from the very same running club. What are the probability of two phenoms?

Gimme a break.

I will state here and now Bolt is and has been on PED

If the clock was not off yesterday in Brussels - Blake is also on PED. What is Blake's percentage improvement? Something like 2 % plus in less than 2 years...

Are you kidding me?

To combat the continuing statements made by some Jamaicans that Jamaica is so terribly a poor country and have no scientific capabilities.

There are really only 4 outlier performances in the 200.

Michael Johnson - 19.32, 1996 Olympics

Usain Bolt - 19.30, 2008 Olympics

Usain Bolt - 19.19, 2009 WCs

Yohan Blake - 19.26, 2011 Brussels DL

All of these are at least 0.2 better than any other athlete, which is now Walter Dix at 19.53 and was Tyson Gay at 19.58 before yesterday.

The first 3 all had good indicators beforehand that something special could happen. And they ran those times in Olympic or World Championship finals. Johnson had broken the world record earlier in the summer of 1996 and he was the world's best at 400 at the same time. Bolt broke the world record twice in the 100 in 2008. When Bolt ran 19.19 in 2009 he had broken the world record at 100 again just before.

So these guys knew they were in world record shape or thereabouts. Yet, when they crossed the finish line they were totally shocked by the results. Go back through the thread to see where I posted MJ's and Bolt's reactions at seeing 19.32 and 19.32 on the clock.

Clean athletes are surprised by these kind of performances even when they are in world record shape because they know what it really takes to get there. Great shape with no injuries, great weather, slight tailwind, great competition, great start and then absolutely perfect execution.

Blake gave us a good indication of the shape he was in by running 9.82. He won the world championships against a motley crew of those still standing. Four athletes (3 who are probably clean) who were faster than Blake didn't race - Bolt (FS), Powell (injury, mental and maybe doping), Gay (injury), and Mullings (doping).

Blake had a terrible start. It was so bad that the announcers noticed it immediately and were wondering why he was asleep in the blocks. His RT is indisputable. Blake did not lead coming off the turn. His execution to this point had been poor.

So a fast time was improbable and Blake knew it. Sprinters know when their start is slow. He knew he was behind Dix because he could see him. So when he saw the time he should have gone totally crazy. It should have been shocking to him. He should have been jumping around and smiling and looking to a coach or manager to tell him that it was real.

Yeah, Blake was a little surprised as he looked over at the clock. Overall, his reaction was subdued. Maybe he just thought there was a timing error. He fist pumped a couple of times, threw the bouquet into the crowd, then went to his knees for that pose that he does. Then he calmly walked back to the finish line. Watch the video, Bolt is more surprised than he is. Blake looks like he expected to run 19.26.

Clean athletes are surprised and elated with great performances because they are unexpected. Even when you know you're in world record shape you don't run a world record every time out. There are so many external factors that can't be controlled.

Dopers are not surprised by great performances because they know that external factors are largely irrelevant. They know before they even take the line that they should perform well. Dopers are scared by good performances because they think they might get caught.

I think you don't know how PED's work.

I think this Jamaican genetics pocket argument is a piece of crap.