Jess McClain runs well in hotter temps. She is in the middle of Boston training so probably not tapered or specific, but she’s as consistent as it gets. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wins.
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Can we be real for a change? wrote:
Houlihan isn't breaking 30 tonight. 30:30 to 31:00 at best.
Anyone who watched Houlihan's interview yesterday would know that even Houlihan doesn't really believe she will break 30 minutes. It's just something she feels like trying.
She was more like "I'm going to start off at 30:00 pace and see what happens" as opposed to her really thinking she could break 30 minutes.
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Even doping 7 years ago she couldn't do it.
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On the SUS Bus wrote:
I think Jess McClain will win it in 30.10. She is suddenly ripped and fast. She's 34 and is swole af! She looks like Shelby did before she got popped. I know Roche coaches her and lord knows what brew he has cooked up for her but her sudden rise to the top at her age is interesting. I hope it's all natural.
Nice. She looks like Shelby in 2020.
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Still betting on Shelby to win though in 30:40 v Jess in 30:50.
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There's someone named Pooja Pooja in the women's pro 1500 field. That's on par with Gout Gout!
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Kickers usually win wrote:
Fan Out West -> wrote:
No.
Gun goes off at 8:55 pm PDT for women's elite race.
One factor against a super fast time is the weather.
SoCal is still feeling lingering effects from the recent heat wave which hit the west.
Temps at start of race forecasted to be 66 deg F. Almost 10 deg warmer than The TEN's featured 10,000 races in years past. Partly due to moving the race from the beginning of March to the end.
Cheptegei’s 10000m WR was set in 77 degree weather. 66 degrees is cooler than just about any DL meet.
I know. It's ridiculous for anyone to think that 66° at night is adverse. Seems perfect to me. Heaven. Do those people actually run?
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Is there a live thread for the Sound Running/The Ten meet tonight, or is this one the closest we have? I know that with no championship standards to chase, the fields and hype aren't as big as in some years, but I thought there would be at least a little night-of chatter.
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searching for a thread wrote:
Is there a live thread for the Sound Running/The Ten meet tonight, or is this one the closest we have? I know that with no championship standards to chase, the fields and hype aren't as big as in some years, but I thought there would be at least a little night-of chatter.
I agree. I came here at least expecting a thread on the race and am disappointed there is nothing. Standards to chase or not, we’ve still got ourselves a potential AR 10K tingiht and to not even have a thread is wild. Are you a running website or what??
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According to the results, a 13 year-old just ran a 4:06.03 1600, lost to a 14 year-old by .01. Now they took the ages off the results. There was no way that could be right.
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malmo wrote:
Kickers usually win wrote:
Cheptegei’s 10000m WR was set in 77 degree weather. 66 degrees is cooler than just about any DL meet.
I know. It's ridiculous for anyone to think that 66° at night is adverse. Seems perfect to me. Heaven. Do those people actually run?
Here's a project I did a few years back. I plotted all of the top 50 lists for 1500, 3000sc, 5000m, 10000m by event. Then plotted Nth best cumulative graphs. The results were pretty much predictable. You'll note that to get those averages there are a lot of individual dots that are above and below those averages.
1500 72°- 75°
3000sc 72° - 74°
5000 68°
10000 63°- 65°110 -
malmo wrote:
Here's a project I did a few years back. I plotted all of the top 50 lists for 1500, 3000sc, 5000m, 10000m by event. Then plotted Nth best cumulative graphs. The results were pretty much predictable. You'll note that to get those averages there are a lot of individual dots that are above and below those averages.1500 72°- 75°
3000sc 72° - 74°
5000 68°
10000 63°- 65°Very cool. Any chance you can share the raw data? I’d be interested to see what the results look like on a statistical process control chart.
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I doubt she has any chance at the record; however, this is what she needs to maintain.
Splits for American Record pace
400 - 1:12.1
800 - 2:24.3
1200 - 3:36.4
1600 - 4:48.6
2000 - 6:00.7
2400 - 7:12.9
2800 - 8:25.0
3200 - 9:37.2
3600 - 10:49.4
4000 - 12:01.5
4400 - 13:13.7
4800 - 14:25.8
5200 - 15:38.0
5600 - 16:50.1
6000 - 18:02.3
6400 - 19:14.4
6800 - 20:26.6
7200 - 21:38.8
7600 - 22:50.9
8000 - 24:03.0
8400 - 25:15.2
8800 - 26:27.3
9200 - 27:39.5
9600 - 28:51.630 -
is vanessa fraser not wearing spikes?
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Lower quality field than normal wrote:
I doubt she has any chance at the record; however, this is what she needs to maintain.
Splits for American Record pace
400 - 1:12.1
800 - 2:24.3
1200 - 3:36.4
1600 - 4:48.6
2000 - 6:00.7
2400 - 7:12.9
2800 - 8:25.0
3200 - 9:37.2
3600 - 10:49.4
4000 - 12:01.5
4400 - 13:13.7
4800 - 14:25.8
5200 - 15:38.0
5600 - 16:50.1
6000 - 18:02.3
6400 - 19:14.4
6800 - 20:26.6
7200 - 21:38.8
7600 - 22:50.9
8000 - 24:03.0
8400 - 25:15.2
8800 - 26:27.3
9200 - 27:39.5
9600 - 28:51.6Easier way to track the race:
30-flat = 3/k = 72 sec/lap.
So, kilo splits for a 30-flat are 3->6->9->12->15/5000->18->21->24->27->30:00.
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4:49.95 at 1600
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All-time US List
- 30:03.82 Alicia Monson (2023)
- 30:13.17 Molly Huddle (2016)
- 30:14.66 Elise Cranny (2022)
- 30:18.05 Karissa Schweizer (2022)
- 30:22.22 Shalane Flanagan (2008)
- 30:33.82 Weini Kelati (2024)
- 30:34.49 Shalane Flanagan (2008)
- 30:36.56 Elise Cranny (2025)
- 30:38.60 Weini Kelati (2025)
- 30:39.57 Shalane Flanagan (2011)
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Er... wrote:
malmo wrote:
Here's a project I did a few years back. I plotted all of the top 50 lists for 1500, 3000sc, 5000m, 10000m by event. Then plotted Nth best cumulative graphs. The results were pretty much predictable. You'll note that to get those averages there are a lot of individual dots that are above and below those averages.1500 72°- 75°
3000sc 72° - 74°
5000 68°
10000 63°- 65°Very cool. Any chance you can share the raw data? I’d be interested to see what the results look like on a statistical process control chart.
I might have the spreadsheet somewhere but I'd have to dig deep in the archives. I'll see what I can do. Basically 50 deep averaged:
73° 3000sc
71° 1500
68° 5000
65° 1000030 -
Uhhhhh anyone else hear the FloTrack announcers call Shelbo "good for the sport?" Bold statement.
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