Hey bud, you might wanna sit this one out. Especially when you have own teammates turning on your coaches
Your campaign will ultimately fail. You’re just mad he rightly pointed out you keep making endless posts and threads. Did Clevenger steal your girlfriend? Or worse? Don’t obfuscate, just tell us. Or let us know why you’d never have the courage to after a cheating African. Even though we alreadt knwo why.
So we’re making this a race thing now? Maybe because D3 doesn’t have the “cheating” Africans that D1 does and as Iowa State had proven it wasn’t the Africans. Instead D3 gets stuck with departments who are trying to give cease and desists instead of transparency.
You guys are just scared that losing your golden boy will revoke your title. As far as it goes for all of d3 except Rowan it was a UW 1-2-3 on the men’s team standings.
Edit; those “cheating africans” that aren’t actually cheating you’re referring to are some of the nicest and most hardworking people you’ll ever meet 😘
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You are probably correct that it’s mainly one disgruntled kook running a campaign. Just look at how many posts he’s made under different names in this thread alone, this page alone. Best to ignore him until he winds down or offs himself. Which is no joke. He seems possessed, totally consumed, as crazy as Armstronglivs or rekrunner. Wild.
He is strange. Look at his other post though, with the Africans “… are some of the nicest,” blather. Big clue as to what he actually is (and he likely detests Africans and evryone else). What bothers him is a guy outside his “group” having the name “Seth”. LOLOLOLOL
You are probably correct that it’s mainly one disgruntled kook running a campaign. Just look at how many posts he’s made under different names in this thread alone, this page alone. Best to ignore him until he winds down or offs himself. Which is no joke. He seems possessed, totally consumed, as crazy as Armstronglivs or rekrunner. Wild.
He is strange. Look at his other post though, with the Africans “… are some of the nicest,” blather. Big clue as to what he actually is (and he likely detests Africans and evryone else). What bothers him is a guy outside his “group” having the name “Seth”. LOLOLOLOL
Pro tip: if you're going to post twice back to back under different usernames, don't post within 5 minutes at 11 pm, let alone at 2 am as you've done in the past
Chiming in here from eating my 🍿 reading this thread.
I work in said niche space; I have brought it up multiple times to them but obviously it gets ignored; they’re more filtered than I am unfortunately. But they do see what is going on I just don’t know if there will be any coverage on it.
and in terms of level, it’s a titan; we also have connects to other people in other outlets; everyone sees what’s going on but legally they’re not trying to risk anything (pansies). Citius tried to write about the podium but it was nothing short of pitiful.
let me be clear that I am on team Rowan clean sport*
Chiming back in before I slumber.
I was never an athlete in D3 (however I was an athlete the NCAA) but kudos to the petition signees and creators of RCS for actually doing something to solve their own issues; you don’t ever see this in D1 except chirping.
I know someone who was on that 5k podium (not Matthai lol) and a bunch of my hometown rivals/training partners are in D3 now. I’m also from a uni that supposedly stopped testing at one point because we would lose half the team if they did.
Obviously I can’t get too involved myself because of my ties but it doesn’t mean that I didn’t send the page and petition to at least 10 schools where I knew people in the team.
This is gonna be my second and last post on an anon account, might hop in on the fun but it’s too much work to make an account but also too much to keep using burners
I’ve become really invested in this since the Gmail video got leaked. Feeling super grateful for…
- Former Iowa State Teammates speaking out
- J. Gaults incredible journalism to kickstart this whole grassroots effort.
- And now feeling very optimistic with the way rowancleansport is handling everything.
Want to echo the sentiment about people with connections to media getting the word out. This story is worth it’s weight in gold. Just gotta find someone who wants to dive in!
I'm not a lawyer, but from what I understand it would be near-impossible for Rowan/Clevenger to successfully sue Rowan Clean Sport or anyone else for defamation.
According to the New Jersey State Bar Association, a successful defamation claim must prove that the defendant:
NJSBA wrote:
(1) made a defamatory statement of fact; (2) concerning the plaintiff (3) which was false and (4) which was communicated to at least one person other than [plaintiff] (5) with the defendant's actual knowledge that the statement was false or with reckless disregard of the statement’s truth or falsity.
Crucially, statements must be presented as fact (not opinion), they must be false, and the defendant must have known they were false.
There's no way Rowan will win a case like that. They're just using the threat of a lawsuit to try to get people to shut up. And it's not gonna work!
There seems to be a Rowan runner who has had enough of the whole Seth fiasco. @RowanCleanSport on Instagram (which is an account focused on bringing more awareness to the Seth situation) posted a screenshot of an email they sent to both AD Tucker and Coach Dimit. In the email, there is a Rowan runner who is quoted.
• On Internal Communication: "I don't fault Tucker simply because I don't think Dimit is being honest with him. Dimit is a very shifty guy, and he'll tell you what you want to hear. About a week before the Letsrun article came out, I walked into our gym to the two of them talking about Clevenger. After I got out of earshot I listened and Dimit was trying to claim that the rumors were being spread by Hopkins because they were jealous. Tucker asked if he was sure because he was 'getting a ton of emails.' So like I said, I don't think Tucker is being told everything." • On Team Reputation: "It's a shame that there is a negative image placed on both the team and the university, especially when my teammates have done nothing wrong. It's good we have people like you who try to do the right thing." • On the Program Atmosphere: "Dimit and Clevenger treat this like it's a joke." • On Prior Recruitment Red Flags: "Clevenger is mainly at Rowan due to the fact that no other D1 schools would take him. The known schools that rejected him are Ole Miss, Georgia, Duke, NAU, and Saint Joe's." "Saint Joe's coach...reached out to Sudbury [lowa State Head Coach] about Clevenger, but was told what had happened, and denied him a spot on the team." • On Coach-to-Coach Verification: "I can also share with you that Sudbury and Dimit have not spoken at all."
Props to this Rowan runner who decided to speak out.
There seems to be a Rowan runner who has had enough of the whole Seth fiasco. @RowanCleanSport on Instagram (which is an account focused on bringing more awareness to the Seth situation) posted a screenshot of an email they sent to both AD Tucker and Coach Dimit. In the email, there is a Rowan runner who is quoted.
• On Internal Communication: "I don't fault Tucker simply because I don't think Dimit is being honest with him. Dimit is a very shifty guy, and he'll tell you what you want to hear. About a week before the Letsrun article came out, I walked into our gym to the two of them talking about Clevenger. After I got out of earshot I listened and Dimit was trying to claim that the rumors were being spread by Hopkins because they were jealous. Tucker asked if he was sure because he was 'getting a ton of emails.' So like I said, I don't think Tucker is being told everything." • On Team Reputation: "It's a shame that there is a negative image placed on both the team and the university, especially when my teammates have done nothing wrong. It's good we have people like you who try to do the right thing." • On the Program Atmosphere: "Dimit and Clevenger treat this like it's a joke." • On Prior Recruitment Red Flags: "Clevenger is mainly at Rowan due to the fact that no other D1 schools would take him. The known schools that rejected him are Ole Miss, Georgia, Duke, NAU, and Saint Joe's." "Saint Joe's coach...reached out to Sudbury [lowa State Head Coach] about Clevenger, but was told what had happened, and denied him a spot on the team." • On Coach-to-Coach Verification: "I can also share with you that Sudbury and Dimit have not spoken at all."
Props to this Rowan runner who decided to speak out.
Actually he isn't eligible if he provided banned substances to another athlete. Do you have any reason to doubt that happened? The NCAA has to investigate now. They will keep the trophy legally, but everyone will agree that they didn't earn it morally.
This definitely isn't the runner. It is a family member. You can tell by their cuddling behavior since this unfolded why he has this destructive personality.
This definitely isn't the runner. It is a family member. You can tell by their cuddling behavior since this unfolded why he has this destructive personality.
It’s probably his brother, Caleb, who has been trying to vicariously live through Seth after never doing anything significant in his career.
The reason to doubt this crap is because he won multiple national titles a few days ago.
Talk me through your thought process (if you have one) here. Because he won multiple national titles a few days ago, that incentivizes his own teammates to share information with a 3rd party that puts their OWN program and coaches in a poor light, and casts doubt on their national championship? In what world does that make sense to you? Rowan athletes have a significant reason to support SC, he was the literal difference between 3rd and 1st last weekend.
Anyone inside the program sharing information has little to gain, and a TON to lose, but yet they keep doing it anyway.
There seems to be a Rowan runner who has had enough of the whole Seth fiasco. @RowanCleanSport on Instagram (which is an account focused on bringing more awareness to the Seth situation) posted a screenshot of an email they sent to both AD Tucker and Coach Dimit. In the email, there is a Rowan runner who is quoted.
• On Internal Communication: "I don't fault Tucker simply because I don't think Dimit is being honest with him. Dimit is a very shifty guy, and he'll tell you what you want to hear. About a week before the Letsrun article came out, I walked into our gym to the two of them talking about Clevenger. After I got out of earshot I listened and Dimit was trying to claim that the rumors were being spread by Hopkins because they were jealous. Tucker asked if he was sure because he was 'getting a ton of emails.' So like I said, I don't think Tucker is being told everything." • On Team Reputation: "It's a shame that there is a negative image placed on both the team and the university, especially when my teammates have done nothing wrong. It's good we have people like you who try to do the right thing." • On the Program Atmosphere: "Dimit and Clevenger treat this like it's a joke." • On Prior Recruitment Red Flags: "Clevenger is mainly at Rowan due to the fact that no other D1 schools would take him. The known schools that rejected him are Ole Miss, Georgia, Duke, NAU, and Saint Joe's." "Saint Joe's coach...reached out to Sudbury [lowa State Head Coach] about Clevenger, but was told what had happened, and denied him a spot on the team." • On Coach-to-Coach Verification: "I can also share with you that Sudbury and Dimit have not spoken at all."
Props to this Rowan runner who decided to speak out.
There seems to be a Rowan runner who has had enough of the whole Seth fiasco. @RowanCleanSport on Instagram (which is an account focused on bringing more awareness to the Seth situation) posted a screenshot of an email they sent to both AD Tucker and Coach Dimit. In the email, there is a Rowan runner who is quoted.
• On Internal Communication: "I don't fault Tucker simply because I don't think Dimit is being honest with him. Dimit is a very shifty guy, and he'll tell you what you want to hear. About a week before the Letsrun article came out, I walked into our gym to the two of them talking about Clevenger. After I got out of earshot I listened and Dimit was trying to claim that the rumors were being spread by Hopkins because they were jealous. Tucker asked if he was sure because he was 'getting a ton of emails.' So like I said, I don't think Tucker is being told everything." • On Team Reputation: "It's a shame that there is a negative image placed on both the team and the university, especially when my teammates have done nothing wrong. It's good we have people like you who try to do the right thing." • On the Program Atmosphere: "Dimit and Clevenger treat this like it's a joke." • On Prior Recruitment Red Flags: "Clevenger is mainly at Rowan due to the fact that no other D1 schools would take him. The known schools that rejected him are Ole Miss, Georgia, Duke, NAU, and Saint Joe's." "Saint Joe's coach...reached out to Sudbury [lowa State Head Coach] about Clevenger, but was told what had happened, and denied him a spot on the team." • On Coach-to-Coach Verification: "I can also share with you that Sudbury and Dimit have not spoken at all."
Props to this Rowan runner who decided to speak out.
I'm so tired of this bs bro. It's either he fails a test, or he doesn't. Stop trying to bring down their success.
"They sent you a C&D because they don't waste their time with dipsht college kids with no lawyers. They literally gave you a polite, 'fck off, stop wasting our time with this bllsht'. Instead of spreading propaganda about my school, go watch Fox News or something."
There seems to be a Rowan runner who has had enough of the whole Seth fiasco. @RowanCleanSport on Instagram (which is an account focused on bringing more awareness to the Seth situation) posted a screenshot of an email they sent to both AD Tucker and Coach Dimit. In the email, there is a Rowan runner who is quoted.
• On Internal Communication: "I don't fault Tucker simply because I don't think Dimit is being honest with him. Dimit is a very shifty guy, and he'll tell you what you want to hear. About a week before the Letsrun article came out, I walked into our gym to the two of them talking about Clevenger. After I got out of earshot I listened and Dimit was trying to claim that the rumors were being spread by Hopkins because they were jealous. Tucker asked if he was sure because he was 'getting a ton of emails.' So like I said, I don't think Tucker is being told everything." • On Team Reputation: "It's a shame that there is a negative image placed on both the team and the university, especially when my teammates have done nothing wrong. It's good we have people like you who try to do the right thing." • On the Program Atmosphere: "Dimit and Clevenger treat this like it's a joke." • On Prior Recruitment Red Flags: "Clevenger is mainly at Rowan due to the fact that no other D1 schools would take him. The known schools that rejected him are Ole Miss, Georgia, Duke, NAU, and Saint Joe's." "Saint Joe's coach...reached out to Sudbury [lowa State Head Coach] about Clevenger, but was told what had happened, and denied him a spot on the team." • On Coach-to-Coach Verification: "I can also share with you that Sudbury and Dimit have not spoken at all."
Props to this Rowan runner who decided to speak out.
We may soon lock this thread if it is just a few people posting back and forth to one another. Threads are not meant for 2 people to insult one another