Hocker COOKED in the 1500/mile?

overcooked peds wrote:

cooked good wrote:

Your criticisms are outdated and false. If you have to dwell on the past, omit relevant facts, or lie, that means you don't have a valid case.

I hate that you have me agreeing with armstronglivs on this one. You keep moving the goalposts and are making your argument weaker.

Hocker is losing almost every race he enters since leaving college. He’s won 1 global 1500m, 1 global 5000m. He “won” some small indoor exhibition races this season. Millrose is not an “international race.”

OACHaterzzz wrote:

cooked good wrote:

I refuted you by pointing out the falsehood and absurdity of what you said.

You didn't point out anything "absurd" in my post, you merely labeled it as such without actually interacting with the argument. Please do explain what is so absurd.

observer of facts wrote:

Hocker fanboys when he loses at nationals, Pre, Diamond Leagues:

VAboi wrote:

This is what you said:

“51.2 final 400.
25.3 final 200.
12.2 final 100.
Three things Hocker has NEVER DONE.”

When someone correctly pointed out that Hocker has done two of those things (25.3 or faster last 200 and 12.2 or faster last 100 to close a race) to finish a race, you responded with “Sure, but…”

So you acknowledged you were incorrect with the word “Sure” but you didn’t really take ownership of your falsehood.

cooked good wrote:

observer of facts wrote:

Hocker fanboys when he loses at nationals, Pre, Diamond Leagues:

Hocker has won at Nationals two years in a row.

observer of facts wrote:

cooked good wrote:

Hocker has won his last 4 races in a row, including races against international competition. Do you have a criticism that isn't outdated

Way less impressive that you want it to sound...

- Doc Hale Virginia Tech Invitational 1000m - Feb 2026
- Millrose Games 2-mile - Feb 2026
- Hokie Invitational 2000m - Jan 2026
- WC 5000m - Sep 2025

And no 1500/mile wins since 2024. That information is extremely current.

observer of facts wrote:

cooked good wrote:

Hocker has won at Nationals two years in a row.

No, he has not.

See the thread title, and read more slowly if you get confused: "Cooked. In. The. 1500."

2025 nationals: LOST THE 1500 (3rd place)

Any other asinine false statements?

cooked good wrote:

overcooked peds wrote:

Hocker is losing almost every race he enters since leaving college. He’s won 1 global 1500m, 1 global 5000m. He “won” some small indoor exhibition races this season. Millrose is not an “international race.”

Your comment was invalidated as soon as you said, "Millrose is not an international race." Like armstronglivs, you peddle falsehoods

wannabepro25 wrote:

You just gonna ignore his 3:30.3 at USA’s last season closing in 1:49 which clearly indicates he’s in sub 3:30 shape? Yeah you probably had no idea 😂

observer of facts wrote:

PB 3:30.59 before running 3:27.65 in the Olympics in Aug 2024, in a nice 3-second PB at age 23.

Never again under 3:30 since the same month he ran 3:27 in the Olympics. (3:29.85 in a DL 2 weeks later. No other sub-3:30s...at all.)

"Something else" indeed!

You could almost say the "glow" has faded.

(I am just talking here the way everyone does when "other" runners hit sudden heights and don't return to them.)

cooked good wrote:

A big reason he hasn't won a 1500/mile race recently is he hasn't raced one recently. Mind blowing!

He's got a mile race this weekend. He will win it, and then you won't be so current.

cooked good wrote:

OACHaterzzz wrote:

You didn't point out anything "absurd" in my post, you merely labeled it as such without actually interacting with the argument. Please do explain what is so absurd.

Yes, I did. The absurdity was you saying, "USAs was weak sauce." I pointed out the absurdity of that statement when I said the guy who finished 5th at USAs won a Diamond League race 2 weeks later. You've been refuted.

cooked good wrote:

I didn't say he won the 1500 two years in a row. I said he won at Nationals two years in a row.

wannabepro25 wrote:

observer of facts wrote:

PB 3:30.59 before running 3:27.65 in the Olympics in Aug 2024, in a nice 3-second PB at age 23.

Never again under 3:30 since the same month he ran 3:27 in the Olympics. (3:29.85 in a DL 2 weeks later. No other sub-3:30s...at all.)

"Something else" indeed!

You could almost say the "glow" has faded.

(I am just talking here the way everyone does when "other" runners hit sudden heights and don't return to them.)

You just gonna ignore his 3:30.3 at USA’s last season closing in 1:49 which clearly indicates he’s in sub 3:30 shape? Yeah you probably had no idea 😂

wannabepro25 wrote:

observer of facts wrote:

PB 3:30.59 before running 3:27.65 in the Olympics in Aug 2024, in a nice 3-second PB at age 23.

Never again under 3:30 since the same month he ran 3:27 in the Olympics. (3:29.85 in a DL 2 weeks later. No other sub-3:30s...at all.)

"Something else" indeed!

You could almost say the "glow" has faded.

(I am just talking here the way everyone does when "other" runners hit sudden heights and don't return to them.)

You just gonna ignore his 3:30.3 at USA’s last season closing in 1:49 which clearly indicates he’s in sub 3:30 shape? Yeah you probably had no idea 😂

cooked good wrote:

If the 5th place guy at USAs wins a Diamond League race two weeks later, that proves USAs was a fierce competition. You've been refuted.