last lap was 53.5 in a mid 3:30.x
great result. but not something that the others aren't capable of, if not a good chunk better.
i think there are 6 to 8 guys capable of winning if they get it right. or more precisely get it "the most right"
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It looks like these are the US entrants for the DL Final next week:
W 800 - Wiley
W 1500 - Hiltz (Johnson on the bubble but probably out)
W 5000 - Andrews on the bubble but probably in
W 3000SC - Wayment, Jennings
M 800 - Hoey, Hoppel
M 1500 - Nuguse (Koech on the bubble but probably out)
M 5000 - Young, Blanks
M 3000SC - none
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wannabepro25 wrote:
If Nuguse wants a chance at winning the DL final next week, he absolutely can’t be starting in the back and running on the outside for most of the race. Needs to start in the top three and stay on the inside.
Didn't help that there were 18 starters. There will only be 12 in the final, so he should be better suited there.
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F*ck Flotrack wrote:
Kessler pretty disappointing in that 1500. I generally liked his positioning, but when people started flying by him with 200 to go, he just mailed it in. He's an intriguing athlete, in that he has great speed, but seemingly doesn't deal with pace changes and disruptions in his rhythm very well. He races best when there's someone at the front turning it into a pure time trial (e.g. Jakob, Nuguse).
Yeah, total collapse last 150. He was also right behind Kipsang when he fell at 1200(?) but seemed to maintain position well after some imbalance - until the end.
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nitpick wrote:
nitpick wrote:
He’s the favorite - as everyone is saying
53.5 / 25.5 / 12.5
14.3 -> 13.6 -> 13.0 -> 12.5 in a 3:30.58 race
If you were wondering how Yared got 3rd here and was gapped so badly. He ran 1530 meters...insane. With a huge field most ran around ~1515 meters.
Reynold Cheruiyot botched the tactics again, as a 12.6 last 100 only got him to 4th, when there's no question with better positioning and less shuffling back he beats Nader at least.
https://ps-cache.web.swisstiming.com/node/binaryData/ATH_PROD/BRUSSELS_2025/PDF_ATHM1500M---DIAMOND---FNL-000100--_C78.PDF?h=laanrp2NDkcki9e77VivufMqCh3Hh0/xXw6GLhE4OfI=284 -
Sub 450 for the mile steeple? That would be 9 flat 3k pace.
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What I learned from P Koech is he doesn’t have that close like a Hocker/Laros/strand/jkoech in a more tactical race. There is a reason he only finished 4th in u20 800m last year.
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Koech looked absolutely devastated.
Laros is in a different class to everybody this year, it was clear from the Prefontaine Mile. The only question was Koech. That's been answered.
He's still only 20.
Bad week for Berardelli. The AIU must be watching that camp 24/7. Maybe they are feeling the heat?
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1 mile steeplechase. Let’s go! How many national records go down in this one? I can’t imagine there is a very competitive records list in this event considering how odd the distance is
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
nitpick wrote:
53.5 / 25.5 / 12.5
14.3 -> 13.6 -> 13.0 -> 12.5 in a 3:30.58 race
If you were wondering how Yared got 3rd here and was gapped so badly. He ran 1530 meters...insane. With a huge field most ran around ~1515 meters.Reynold Cheruiyot botched the tactics again, as a 12.6 last 100 only got him to 4th, when there's no question with better positioning and less shuffling back he beats Nader at least.
Could I ask how you find this? I would like to check this out for some other races, I've never seen this before.
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Coevett wrote:
Koech looked absolutely devastated.
Laros is in a different class to everybody this year, it was clear from the Prefontaine Mile. The only question was Koech. That's been answered.
He's still only 20.
Bad week for Berardelli. The AIU must be watching that camp 24/7. Maybe they are feeling the heat?
No Coeturd. Koech didn't look absolutely devastated. That's what your racist eyes want to believe.
I think GB is feeling the heat too. Have you seen Patingson and Whiteman?
Anyway, glad you had a reason to use your Kleenex today. 😘821 -
For comparison, Hocker ran a 52.6 final 400 in a race that was almost the exact same time last year.
The 100 meter splits are butchered on the charts, so not sure how that 200 kick compares, but I think we all know hocker can run a 25.5 type finish.
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F*ck Flotrack wrote:
Kessler pretty disappointing in that 1500. I generally liked his positioning, but when people started flying by him with 200 to go, he just mailed it in. He's an intriguing athlete, in that he has great speed, but seemingly doesn't deal with pace changes and disruptions in his rhythm very well. He races best when there's someone at the front turning it into a pure time trial (e.g. Jakob, Nuguse).
I think he bailed out at end when he knew he couldn't place high enough for points needed to get to DL final. He started season well indoors but it never quite came together for outdoors. It happens.
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Shen Rnnr wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
If you were wondering how Yared got 3rd here and was gapped so badly. He ran 1530 meters...insane. With a huge field most ran around ~1515 meters.Reynold Cheruiyot botched the tactics again, as a 12.6 last 100 only got him to 4th, when there's no question with better positioning and less shuffling back he beats Nader at least.
Could I ask how you find this? I would like to check this out for some other races, I've never seen this before.
From the results page, click the text "Reports" in the top right, just above the table of results. It pops open a menu with four options:
Start List
Results
Race analysis
Race analysis graphical <-- that's what thoughtsleader usedThis post was edited 22 seconds after it was posted.80 -
Like that one mile steeple!
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Coeturd wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Koech looked absolutely devastated.
Laros is in a different class to everybody this year, it was clear from the Prefontaine Mile. The only question was Koech. That's been answered.
He's still only 20.
Bad week for Berardelli. The AIU must be watching that camp 24/7. Maybe they are feeling the heat?
No Coeturd. Koech didn't look absolutely devastated. That's what your racist eyes want to believe.
I think GB is feeling the heat too. Have you seen Patingson and Whiteman?
Anyway, glad you had a reason to use your Kleenex today. 😘I think he looked devastated - rumour has it that someone from his hometown burst out laughing when they heard he is telling everyone that he is 18……
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wannabepro25 wrote:
What I learned from P Koech is he doesn’t have that close like a Hocker/Laros/strand/jkoech in a more tactical race. There is a reason he only finished 4th in u20 800m last year.
Yes, lost in the Koech obsession was that he seemed maxed out at high-12s/low-13s finishes albeit in fast races. Kerr had somewhat of an off race in London with a weak finish. he couldn't outkick Habz and his splits in Ostrava were solid but unspectacular. I think there's a reason AK pre-selected him as I suspect he wouldn't have made top 3 in a 3:48 race. He's a medal contender, but will be in trouble if plays out like today or at USAs. A 3:28-9 race would benefit him hugely.
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Boom, Ndori, Dobson all seem to have fallen off the ladder.
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make the Doom not Boom
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