coe's 141, that was sub optimal conditions, pacing track surface.
the other 140 141 runs were front run, or with very dodgy pacing, like 23flat for the first 200, uneven pace, tracks could have been better.
no question. i think coe said himself he could do 139.
rusd 140 front run, that is only 8 meters off 139.9
coach of john walker, arch jelley, wondered why someone did not pop up and do it, back when the record was 143. by a guy that set that mark in his first season doing it, and broke down not too far after.
right now, there are no athletes that can run a 141 with a suboptimal situation, so 139 is out of the question currently.
the guy to do it, will be 45 low 400 m or very close to, which all the top 4 all time were capable of, no doubt. you don't get your best 400 time on the books using it as sharpening, while doing mileage... of course,
a guy like garth bale of notable endurance and the fastest player, that type of guy would be next level.
remember, you only do track and field when something goes wrong in other sports.
which means it is a fluke to get a super talent in this sport.
Shut up. Can we stop these stupid threads of fake times nobody can ever run? SUB 140 is not possible Ever by anyone you mentioned. Idiot.
sub 140 is not possible. EVER. Delete this whole thread it’s like a thread saying sub 26:00mim 10k is possible or a sub 3:40 mile or sub 40 400m.
800m runners can barely run 1:44 1:45 lmao. Never 1:39. Maybe a horse
like 5 people just ran under 1:43, 3 of them under 1:42 LOL. Go home devastated.
All due respect I'm not sure we are in the "this aged nicely" zone yet. Maybe we should all take a deep breath, cool the jets and think about this rationally.
So okay, we just had 3 top "talents" (let's assume the best here) run well under 1.42 and we probably have another talent out there in Arop who is in the same boat of almost certainly being capable of a similar performance. So let's say we have 4 guys capable of 1.41.5 right now. That is still a considerable way to go to get under 1.40 and I don't think it's so simple as saying "well they will all simply spur each other on to it" - the sport doesn't exactly work like this.
I wrote this the other day - I actually believe that the event was looking a little imbalanced at the top end with respect to performances under 1.42 - the fact that Coe and Cruz had run under 1.42 back prior to 1985 and only two athletes had been able to put themselves considerably ahead of that stake in the ground (yes I know Amos is the other guy under 1.42 which makes 3 but he tied Coe and so isn't at a different level like Kipketer and Rudisha are), made it seem that way.
It's not secret that post Rudishas era the event was in a bit of a down cycle - quite similar to the slight lull we had post Kipketer before David, and I think we have just seen a hard and quick correction as now we have multiple guys populating that mid 1.41 bracket when it should have had a few guys in it already.
I mean those guys need to find 1.5-1.6 seconds to do that - and for even Tual who ran the most even at 49.9/51.7 (which is outstanding) - where does 1.6 seconds come from - does he try and run a 48.2 first lap and still hope to run as fast in his second lap? It is still a huge ask and it's even a huge ask to expect the WR to be broken and that's 0.92 seconds from 100 seconds. Wanyoni who was the most aggressive hit 400m in 49.1 and comparatively struggled in the second lap running 52.4, how does that 1.6 seconds disappear - going slower in the first lap?
I'm not saying it's impossible but we need to see someone at least take the current WR to the cleaners but we starting perking up about a sub 100.
Guess sub 1:40 will be some day.It needs a strong 45 sec 400m runner. 2 x 45 sec + 10 sec= 1:40 is absolutely possible. But I think it will take at least ten more years before it happens.
All these dudes running 1:41 is great but I still don't think any of them will touch sub 1:40, let alone the WR. 1:39 is still GENERATIONS a way. You'd have to go out in 48.xx-49.xx and come back in at least 50 for that. No one is close to that.
You would need sub 44 400M speed for sure which we've never seen an 800M runner run that as far as I'm aware
All these dudes running 1:41 is great but I still don't think any of them will touch sub 1:40, let alone the WR. 1:39 is still GENERATIONS a way. You'd have to go out in 48.xx-49.xx and come back in at least 50 for that. No one is close to that.
You would need sub 44 400M speed for sure which we've never seen an 800M runner run that as far as I'm aware
Generations? No. Within a decade, more likely within 5 years
lmao this "aged nicely?" One guy got to within spitting distance of the records from more than 10 years ago. The 800m has not advanced at all, only recovered from its regression.
It's not possibly to sustain 8 m/s speed that far. The only way it could be possible is if there was a natural predator that ran people down at 8.1m/s for thousands of years. Then there would be people who could go 8.2 m/s.
That's how we have horses, and pronghorn antelopes, and such.
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