Kratochvilova's and Koch's records will be broken

Back from you ban for foul abuse then.

yes they will however not this campaign

I wasn't banned. But speaking truth to morons is "foul abuse" in your books. The truth does hurt.

Your biased refusal to refuse to do any reading marks you out as this boards “ super troll”.

Go through your 20,000 or so trolls and it will be found a whole series of threatening and foul and racists insults that keep getting you banned.

Speaking of 20,000 or so trolls, that must be about the number of different user names you have employed on these threads. And sorry to disappoint you but I am not banned. But you have been.

Clearly not banned at present but you regularity are.

With 20.000 trolls Letsrun can’t do without your clicks .

So what was it like, having to wear a straitjacket?

Ok captain obvious. All records are broken eventually. Some sooner than others.

Come on even you ; the forums super troll; can do better than that

Perhaps a racist insult would be what we expect.

As much as I enjoy watching Naser run - her stride length is superb for her height, and her running action is perfect - she is clearly doped. You only have to familiarise yourself with her backstory to know she was probably a victim of doping when a teenager - and I use the word victim intentionally, because she moved overseas with her coach when she was mid-teens without her parents.

Also note the obvious: it matters not how often someone competes on the circuit, they can still be doped. Marion Jones anyone?

Back on topic. Yes, those records will be broken at some point. Will SML & Mu be the ones? Well it's a bit of a paradox, because as much as I think Kersee would be the one to take women to those WRs (because of his medicine cabinet expertise...) you also need to run, race and get a rhythm in those events. You can't just step on a track twice a year and run a 47.5 400m. You need to be in competition mode, at competition pace, and it's not easy (possible?) with so few meets a year. And the 800m is about tactics. Mu may have been able to front run her way to golds in the past, but there are more women willing to mess up a race pattern now (e.g. Moraa). Perhaps Mu will be able to front-run unchallenged at a US meet, but in a DL meet, or Championships, she is potentially going to be impeded, or blocked, or prevented from having a free run (if the other women are smart enough).

Who else has a chance, or could have broken the 400m?

The way she finished in Doha 2019, SMU clearly could have gone quicker had she timed her kick better. She had far too much left in the tank. I believe she could have gone 48.0 in that race just with an earlier kick alone. But that's still 0.40 off the WR. To run that, she needed to go out harder. She looked like she cruised that first 200m, hence being able to finish so strongly. Perhaps a slightly faster opening 200, and kicking earlier, and it might have been a 47.8-47.9. But still not a WR.

Naser's race plan was more akin to Koch's, which was set out at a super fast pace. Someone needs to do that. She was probably in 22.2 form over 200m in reality (ignore her 22.5 PB from that year..) so she was fast....but again, not as fast as Koch.

Bol is physically in the SMU category, and with her 49.2 indoors, can clearly go well into the 48s. Perhaps if she were to drop the hurdles and focus on the flat, doing more 100/200s too, she could be top 5 all time in the 400m flat. But she will never have the sub 22 speed needed.

That seems to be the bottom line. Sub 22 speed. SMU had it, but still couldn't break the WR. Give her stronger 'roids and she could have. Whether she was/is clean or not, if she were not, she clearly wouldn't be on the same regime or scale as Koch was. SML will never break the 400m WR unless she is doped. Ergo, if she breaks it....

You think captain obvious is bad

Just wait for captain hindsight

You need to see someone about this obsession you have of me.

You are effectively saying the records can only be broken by a doped talented athlete. That is the fate of all records now.

3:49.11

In early June, with nobody pressing her.

That 800m record could go down this year, if the 800m crew really cared, or if the A-list crew cared about the 800m.

Yes, you figured it out. No woman since 1983 has "really cared" about breaking the 800 world record. How did no one figure this out until now? They just need to care.

You're an idiot!

Oversimplify much?😂

Now we have Syd 49.71 in her first 400 in a long time, which although a new PB, was nothing other than a new learning experience, and picking up a paycheck. Yeah that's a long way off the WR, but it was really on the first 300 that mattered, and she did that well. Yes it's not a 300 race, but the last 100 is always fitness, which comes throughout the season. She has the basic speed to do it. Will it come? Possibly. You know she has to be dissatisfied with this race, both because she didn't win, and because she was really unprepared for that last 100m.

Paulino has already gone sub-49, and Wilson, notwithstanding NCAA's, looks very good this season. Naser could drop a bunch of time any day. Look at Adeleke: 49.20, and she hates the 400.

The real action, however, is now in the 800. Forget Mu and Hodgkinson, for now we have Kipyegon. Watch the back straight of her final lap, it is a thing of beauty. Lots of speculation on other threads what she could run for 800, many are saying she doesn't have the basic speed. I disagree. She has it in the 800, like SML has it in the 400--and Kipyegon has shown that she cares about WR's, and has that internal motivation, that mentality, needed to do it, to run solo, in her own world. Yeah SML has the 400mH, but that 400m WR is a totally different beast.

I'm disappointed that Mu doesn't seem to be taking her greatness seriously. I like to think that greats have some kind of duty to posterity to be the best they can possibly be. Mu doesn't seem to think the same way, which sucks for fans like me. I still hold out hope, though...

Yes Mu is an enigma, we dont know what is going on with her. She is an incredible talent, it is too bad that she never races, I too am holding out for good things from her. Time will tell.

I do not agree that Sydney has the 200m speed to break 400m w.r. IMO, 400m w.r. will be broken by someone with f.a.t. sub-21.75 200m speed. That said, Sydney is a great athlete. I expect her to continue to medal as a 400mH & 4x400m athlete.