Cheptegei peaked in 2020. He’s still a great runner, but on the downslope of his career. Right now he’s 26.5 years old which is past prime age for most distance runners.
For those who have been following him he was already a top runner back in 2016 - that’s 7 years ago.
Kiplimo is probably at or near his peak right now, as is Ingerbritsen so it makes sense that they are beating Chep at this point in his career
I enjoy parts of Chavez's podcast from time to time, but also don't know if he has the right expertise. In principle he could be the main commentator and Tollefsen would be the colour commentator who has the knowledge of a former Olympian, but she's too much of a cheerleader and somehow doesn't seem to know the sport that well anymore (she was mixing up Kiplimo and Cheptegei quite a bit). But in the end it wasn't that bad, I watched the youtube feed and at least there weren't commercials and they showed the elite men in the right panel most of the time, even when they when there was no commentary on it.
Also, isn't it "Chepte-guy" and not "Chepte-gay"? I assume they did their homework but this was news to me.
I'm not personally interested in watching wheelchair racing, but that doesn't mean I act like an absolute d*ck whenever it gets shown. It must be tremendously challenging to be a para-athlete; navigating around obstacles to regular training, struggling to make ends meet (let alone affording the specialized training and racing equipment), and just generally existing as a disabled person in a world not often built to accomodate you. This website's bizarre fixation with denigrating wheelchair races and demanding they be excluded from broadcasts, or even cut out of the prize money offerings (when disabled people are far more likely to suffer economically to begin with), is shameful. It wasn't that long ago that most able-bodied people were happy to shun disabled individuals from public or even private life entirely, and keep many of them sequestered away at home or in institutions. The entire broadcast doesn't have to be made for able-bodied folks, when the entire world is already made for us anyway.
Total Energies has unveiled a 150 million shilling partnership with the Kapchorwa-based Joshua Cheptegei Foundation expected to support the foundation’s bid ...
go on youtube and watch the video of the recent osaka women's marathon. all the audio is Japanese of which i don't understand a word. However, you don't really need the audio, you can actually follow the race far far better than our english broadcasts. the pacing charts and distance remaining are shown in real time whenever the camera focuses on a runner or group, so for example when a runner is at a any point, the screen shows who it is, his place, his speed per kilometer, and the estimated finish and distance to the finish line given his pace since the start. This is along with video tables and split screens summarizing leaders and estimated finish times. we must be using old carrier pigeons for our broadcasts. there is so much up close and personal dialogue mixed in with quoting the starting temperature (not the current temperature) ~50 times during the race. we learn more about who they talked to the previous day than what is going on in the race.
Kiplimo just accelerated throughout the race, each 5k segment he just ratcheted down the pace: 15:14, 14:58, 14:24, 13:52!!!! and looked so smooth doing it. Just beautiful form, fun to watch.
go on youtube and watch the video of the recent osaka women's marathon. all the audio is Japanese of which i don't understand a word. However, you don't really need the audio, you can actually follow the race far far better than our english broadcasts. the pacing charts and distance remaining are shown in real time whenever the camera focuses on a runner or group, so for example when a runner is at a any point, the screen shows who it is, his place, his speed per kilometer, and the estimated finish and distance to the finish line given his pace since the start. This is along with video tables and split screens summarizing leaders and estimated finish times. we must be using old carrier pigeons for our broadcasts. there is so much up close and personal dialogue mixed in with quoting the starting temperature (not the current temperature) ~50 times during the race. we learn more about who they talked to the previous day than what is going on in the race.
They're hoping people don't run would watch. That is why so much focus on wheel chair, human stories, etc. But 99% of the population won't watch it anyway. Most Americans think soccer is boring. They have no interest in watching African stick figures in tiny shorts jogging. If they had real life Chris Farley runs NYC marathon segment that would something else.
Cheptegei peaked in 2020. He’s still a great runner, but on the downslope of his career. Right now he’s 26.5 years old which is past prime age for most distance runners.
For those who have been following him he was already a top runner back in 2016 - that’s 7 years ago.
Kiplimo is probably at or near his peak right now, as is Ingerbritsen so it makes sense that they are beating Chep at this point in his career
I wonder why you're being downvoted when you're mostly right. Chep peaked in 2020, when he was mostly unbeatable. In the last two years he's been vulnerable in the 5000m (the Norwegian) and 10,000m+(Kiplimo).
whutwhut wrote: I'm not based in the US, I love watching all the major US HM/Marathons but resent the clue-less news-presenter style coverage most the time with quotes like "god I cant imagine even running 5K"
so I'll start by saying sure, this is better than that, but why tf is Chris Chavez from Citius on there? I listen to his podcast and there's a clear difference between someone who knows the elite's name etc vs someone who actually knows what its like competing at a decent level. According to his Strava he's run 18:25, 39-mid and 1:23. From his own admission on his podcast he's not a very good runner - why is this the best person to help the newscast explain what Kiplimo is feeling like at 10M in? I understand this may come off as unnecessary hate, and I've probably not worded it well, but there are hundreds of people they could get who would be able to give better insights during the race, largely down to the fact that often on the Citius podcast they say things that are just factually wrong. So now to have Chris with his 3:06 Marathon experience, just felt like such low hanging fruit.
Chris Chavez is kind of a mediocre wordsmith, but at least he follows the sport and the criticism of the sport—like he knows we want that 4:19 split. And he can appreciate how smooth Kiplimo looks, while someone at Kiplimo's level might take that for granted.
That's what Carrie's there for—to give the pro perspective. Like when they were commentating on how Teferi was right on Obiri's heels, even with all the road space, Carrie said she doesn't mind that cause at least you know where they are.
This was fun to watch on youtube after the fact. I skipped past the wheelchair parts, but yeah, even while skipping, it was a lot of coverage!
Molly Huddle's baby is a cutie. Big head, big eyes—just the right amount of coverage!
It was a little strange that the profile played up the running mom angle as much as it did and Huddle said there haven’t been a lot of elite women runners that gave given birth. My sense it is fairly common.
It also said she gave birth 11 months ago. Didn’t Salazar have Kara Goucher back in top form a lot sooner than 11 months after her son was born?
…and Kara has repeatedly said that that was a mistake that cost her in the long run.
Yeah, she had a great Boston marathon performance 6 months after giving birth, but then was perpetually injured after.
It wasn't common to hear of U.S. athletes giving birth even 5 years ago. (Kenyan athletes did it quietly and took their time coming back.) Shoe contracts allowing for maternity leave, with Alysia Montano and Alyson Felix heading the charge, made a big difference, along with the pandemic providing a pause in racing and probably making people reassess their lives. Aliphine taking the delay of the Olympics to have a baby probably made other athletes think about when they could fit it in, and now a slew of runners have had babies. Huddle, Elle Purrier, Abby D'Agostino, Kate Grace, Brenda Martinez, Gwen Jorgensen.
I am a big TME critic. However, I am fairly impressed with how their guys did today
Winter ran well, PR'ing on that course Fischer was about 1:30 off his PR
I know the course isnt the fastest, but looking at the other names in the race, did you really think they'd finish anywhere else? I'd say it a fair/solid result, but nothing special
go on youtube and watch the video of the recent osaka women's marathon. all the audio is Japanese of which i don't understand a word. However, you don't really need the audio, you can actually follow the race far far better than our english broadcasts. the pacing charts and distance remaining are shown in real time whenever the camera focuses on a runner or group, so for example when a runner is at a any point, the screen shows who it is, his place, his speed per kilometer, and the estimated finish and distance to the finish line given his pace since the start. This is along with video tables and split screens summarizing leaders and estimated finish times. we must be using old carrier pigeons for our broadcasts. there is so much up close and personal dialogue mixed in with quoting the starting temperature (not the current temperature) ~50 times during the race. we learn more about who they talked to the previous day than what is going on in the race.
I just watched on YouTube. Terrible, terrible coverage. Camera in the face of the leader(s) ONLY with plenty of uninteresting babble and long interviews with grade school children, wheelchair winners, ... anything but coverage of the actual runners running in the race. Terrible.
Could be worse. The Daily Mail covered the race cause the ex-Good Morning America anchors who are tabloid fodder ran the race. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes. They said the two prepared for the race with a healthy amount of sex action and crossed the finish line together. They said there was no way to tell what time they ran but it was around 10am, so 3 hrs. (It was 1:54 according to the results posted.) Hey, good on them for still enjoying the running. She looked a little overdressed with a puffy jacket.
Daily Mail mentioned Kiplimo and his winning time finishing up after the wheelchairs. NO mention of Obiri or the women's race at all. I don't think they knew there was one. So wheelchairs still got more coverage here (just saying).
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