Molly Seidel Seeking TUE for Adderall - Will not run NYC Mini 10k

RunningBecky wrote:

rojo wrote:

I don't think people are destroying anyone. People are trying to understand this.

It kind of reminds me of untimed SAT tests. If one person can have it, why not everyone?

I've always though to adderall as like steroids for the brain and wondered why everyone wasn't on it but have never taken it. Recently, a friend of mine just got on it and said, "Rojo. go see your doctor and get on it."

That sentiment was widespread as there were whole companies popping up to give people it without even going to the doctor's office.

However, there must be some negative side effects to it as these pharmacies won't give it out. Or maybe they are just simply spooked by the opiod lawsuits where they now realize they could be held liable for sitting on data that a single doc or single pharmacy is giving out 10,000 x more of a certain drug than is average?

There are many negative aspects to Adderal but if you need it for a serious mental condition like she has, it is worth while. It does NOT give her a competitive advantage. It allows her to function normally.

But I disagree with you about one thing. This is a typical Lets Run message post. VERY few people are trying to understand anything. They are just attacking out of ignorance.

Stop wrote:

ADHD is often not diagnosed in girls because it manifests differently than in boys. While a boy is more likely to be hyper and disruptive leading to diagnosis, girls are often quiet and dreamy and therefore are seen as not causing a problem. It is very common for women to go well into adulthood without a diagnosis because of this.

ADHD causes problems with executive functioning that often manifest with depression and anxiety. It’s not just hyperactivity, it’s an inability to often do basic life tasks and to suffer extreme anxiety - things like cooking, cleaning the house. Without medication, people become overwhelmed and their life often feels deeply out of control. Before diagnosis many feel deep shame and cannot figure out why they can’t “get it together” to make appointments, be on time, focus on tasks, etc. Running could actually make this worse as often runners use running as a space to block out life problems, and she may be putting so much energy into keeping it together as a runner that she has nothing left over for the rest of her life leading to increasing spiralling and loss of control.

She’s not applying for a TUE because she “wants to do speed,” she needs medication to manage her life and do basic tasks that people normally do without huge stress and disruption. It likely took ages for this to be diagnosed and she probably spent a long time wondering what was wrong with her.

rojo wrote:

Muebele wrote:

The replies to this are vintage Let's Run message board. Let's see who we can destroy today.

I don't think people are destroying anyone. People are trying to understand this.

It kind of reminds me of untimed SAT tests. If one person can have it, why not everyone?

I've always though to adderall as like steroids for the brain and wondered why everyone wasn't on it but have never taken it. Recently, a friend of mine just got on it and said, "Rojo. go see your doctor and get on it."

That sentiment was widespread as there were whole companies popping up to give people it without even going to the doctor's office.

However, there must be some negative side effects to it as these pharmacies won't give it out. Or maybe they are just simply spooked by the opiod lawsuits where they now realize they could be held liable for sitting on data that a single doc or single pharmacy is giving out 10,000 x more of a certain drug than is average?

rojo wrote:

Muebele wrote:

The replies to this are vintage Let's Run message board. Let's see who we can destroy today.

I don't think people are destroying anyone. People are trying to understand this.

It kind of reminds me of untimed SAT tests. If one person can have it, why not everyone?

I've always though to adderall as like steroids for the brain and wondered why everyone wasn't on it but have never taken it. Recently, a friend of mine just got on it and said, "Rojo. go see your doctor and get on it."

That sentiment was widespread as there were whole companies popping up to give people it without even going to the doctor's office.

However, there must be some negative side effects to it as these pharmacies won't give it out. Or maybe they are just simply spooked by the opiod lawsuits where they now realize they could be held liable for sitting on data that a single doc or single pharmacy is giving out 10,000 x more of a certain drug than is average?

ionaoicen wrote:

rojo wrote:

I don't think people are destroying anyone. People are trying to understand this.

It kind of reminds me of untimed SAT tests. If one person can have it, why not everyone?

I've always though to adderall as like steroids for the brain and wondered why everyone wasn't on it but have never taken it. Recently, a friend of mine just got on it and said, "Rojo. go see your doctor and get on it."

That sentiment was widespread as there were whole companies popping up to give people it without even going to the doctor's office.

However, there must be some negative side effects to it as these pharmacies won't give it out. Or maybe they are just simply spooked by the opiod lawsuits where they now realize they could be held liable for sitting on data that a single doc or single pharmacy is giving out 10,000 x more of a certain drug than is average?

"I don't think. people are destroying anyone. People are trying to understand this"

The athletes you'll protect vs the ones you won't. We are keeping score, Rojo. Alan Webb anyone?

you stop wrote:

Stop wrote:

ADHD is often not diagnosed in girls because it manifests differently than in boys. While a boy is more likely to be hyper and disruptive leading to diagnosis, girls are often quiet and dreamy and therefore are seen as not causing a problem. It is very common for women to go well into adulthood without a diagnosis because of this.

ADHD causes problems with executive functioning that often manifest with depression and anxiety. It’s not just hyperactivity, it’s an inability to often do basic life tasks and to suffer extreme anxiety - things like cooking, cleaning the house. Without medication, people become overwhelmed and their life often feels deeply out of control. Before diagnosis many feel deep shame and cannot figure out why they can’t “get it together” to make appointments, be on time, focus on tasks, etc. Running could actually make this worse as often runners use running as a space to block out life problems, and she may be putting so much energy into keeping it together as a runner that she has nothing left over for the rest of her life leading to increasing spiralling and loss of control.

She’s not applying for a TUE because she “wants to do speed,” she needs medication to manage her life and do basic tasks that people normally do without huge stress and disruption. It likely took ages for this to be diagnosed and she probably spent a long time wondering what was wrong with her.

This is just wrong. Males and females do not have different types of ADHD, there are just different sub-types of ADHD and both males and females can have the different sub-types. There is no sub-type that is more prevalent in females than males. Yes, people associate the hyperactive-impulsive DSM-IV-like ADHD as being the only kind of ADHD and more prevalent in males, but it is just totally wrong to suggest that males only get that sub-type while females get the inattentive sub-type. So, stop with your misinformation.