Gjert Ingebrigtsen: "Cheruyiot will never beat Jakob again"

Loser.us wrote:

He is just a father and a coach.. He has almost no contacts in the sport internationally. How could he put something like that together? This is all about a strict regime over years and years. Very strict. No cheating, It's not like you can buy drugs at every corner in Norway. You risk too much even asking for it. Someone would tell.

I'm pretty sure Gjert owns a shipping and distribution company, no?

SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:

Well.......in this Olympic final Cheruyiot act like the rabbit for Jacob to triumph on. Won`t be the same in Diamond league and then Tim will have an advantage again. I guess Jakob will see just Tim`s back over the finish several times more.Tim is faster over 800m than Jakob and when he is in top shape I guess he will beat Jakob again.

Jakob's probably going to find success winning races the way El G did, by starting to pick up the pace around 500-600m from the finish line off of an honest pace. Take the kick out of everyone.

Doesn't matter what you 800m speed is if you're able to race by averaging 55 seconds laps from the start.

He needs to stay injury free and healthy.

Threshold Threshold Threshold wrote:

I love how they trigger people. Keep at it Jakob and Gjert. Thanks for making the sport interesting again.

No more super slow and kick debacles like the 1500 in Rio

No more saying we can’t beat the East Africans because they have more “talent.”

No more distance runners and their coaches lacking personality.

Jakob has just begun to turn the distance running world upside down. Getcha popcorn ready haters!!!

Who's we?

There is a reason you do not see many East Africans paying that much attention to the 800m and the 1500m, plus that ridiculous American obsession, the mile. There is just not that much interest.

In addition, other than this overrated individual and mediocrities like ...that American who recently took an attempt at their mile record... who else do "you" have taking on the East Africans? Chelimo? Athing Mu? Hassan? Guess what, they are all East Africans! Or you mean the woman who took a bronze in the marathon? Does the ocassional marathon win or medal mean you've dethroned the East Africans -- even when the USA has more people that Kenya, Uganda, and Tanzania combined?

barney23 wrote:

3758kk wrote:

Classic Norwegian arrogance on display.

You are one of the most arrogant people on the planet.

I don't know about their arrogance and don't care. But god, are they hypocrites (like much of the West, anyway)!

https://branko2f7.substack.com/p/is-norway-the-new-east-india-company

You do realize that the world aint ready to decrease the use of oil? Sad, but true. It doesnt help to stop producing the black gold when the technological advances aint there yet to replace it. It would only make the price for oil to go totally crazy. And as always; the poor countries would feel the consequences the most. Would it be better to hand over even more power to OPEC?

Coevett wrote:

Doesn't Tim pretty much rabbit Jakob in every Diamond League race? Do you expect Tim to sit on Jakob's shoulder next time?

In Doha 2019, Tim ran the last 300m in 41.1

In Tokyo, off a slightly faster pace, he ran the last 300m in 41.7 to finish inside his time from Doha.

In Tokyo, off a slightly faster pace than Tim ran in Doha, Jakob ran the last 300m in 40.8 = 0.3 seconds faster than Tim in Doha.

Clearly Jakob has much improved his finishing speed.

That was evident to see earlier in the season when he kicked clear in the last 100m in terrible conditions at Gateshead.

It does look as if Jakob has improved his final 300 (and final 100) nicely in these faster races, but still note that Tim pre-injury in 2020 closed a controlled (14 seconds each for the 100 segments before) 3:30.2 1500 in 13.1 seconds. Video here:

If he is to beat Jakob with his current strategy, he will have to hold Jakob before the final 100-150 before opening up with his superior top-end speed. Just trying to run away is no longer the answer.

Aaleby wrote:

barney23 wrote:

I don't know about their arrogance and don't care. But god, are they hypocrites (like much of the West, anyway)!

https://branko2f7.substack.com/p/is-norway-the-new-east-india-company

You do realize that the world aint ready to decrease the use of oil? Sad, but true. It doesnt help to stop producing the black gold when the technological advances aint there yet to replace it. It would only make the price for oil to go totally crazy. And as always; the poor countries would feel the consequences the most. Would it be better to hand over even more power to OPEC?

Not sure if the argument in your first three sentences is true. What I know is that Norway is not ready to give up its golden goose even if runs around pretending to be holier-than-thou, pontificating about climate change and all that. I also know that hypocrisy is the pillar of so-called "Western values"/"Western culture".

barney23 wrote:

Aaleby wrote:

You do realize that the world aint ready to decrease the use of oil? Sad, but true. It doesnt help to stop producing the black gold when the technological advances aint there yet to replace it. It would only make the price for oil to go totally crazy. And as always; the poor countries would feel the consequences the most. Would it be better to hand over even more power to OPEC?

Not sure if the argument in your first three sentences is true. What I know is that Norway is not ready to give up its golden goose even if runs around pretending to be holier-than-thou, pontificating about climate change and all that. I also know that hypocrisy is the pillar of so-called "Western values"/"Western culture".

Would the world produce less oil in total if Norway reduced the production? Would the demand for oil decrease?

The answer is a clear NO. The only way to solve the problem is to decrease the demand for oil with the help of technology advances. In some way it would help to decrease the production as well since that would push the oil price through the roof and force forward new technologies.

You may criticise Norway as being hypocrise and its correct to some degree, but the goverment do spend huge amounts of money electrifying the oil recovery to lower the polution significant. And it does make it the oil recovry as the least environmentally harmful in the world. That is something.

Taro wrote:

Jake S wrote:

Gjert seems a bit of a bellend . . .

Interesting Briticism. Preceded by the phrase "a bit of," it implies that there is a range of dickheadedness.

The Irish would say knob jockey

Gjert doesn't often get things wrong, so he's probably right. But man, I wish young stars - Ingebrigtsens and Warholm inkl. - would take a page from Boasson-Hagen on humility. The latter is a national treasure.

ydmyk wrote:

Gjert doesn't often get things wrong, so he's probably right. But man, I wish young stars - Ingebrigtsens and Warholm inkl. - would take a page from Boasson-Hagen on humility. The latter is a national treasure.

Has that humility been a sporting success for Boasson-Hagen?

Aaleby wrote:

ydmyk wrote:

Gjert doesn't often get things wrong, so he's probably right. But man, I wish young stars - Ingebrigtsens and Warholm inkl. - would take a page from Boasson-Hagen on humility. The latter is a national treasure.

Has that humility been a sporting success for Boasson-Hagen?

I don't think so. I don't think I implied it did.

round and round wrote:

I'm pretty sure Gjert owns a shipping and distribution company, no?

He doesn't.

In the series you can see him working for Ahlsell.

Apart from that he and his wife co-owns a holding company called 'TEGA AS' (name stems from their initials, and they own 50% each). TEGA AS owns 25% of 'Run Fast AS' (75% is owned by the three running brothers), and 100% of 'In Line Frisør AS' which is two hairdressing salons run by his wife.

you are thicc

Aaleby wrote:

ydmyk wrote:

Gjert doesn't often get things wrong, so he's probably right. But man, I wish young stars - Ingebrigtsens and Warholm inkl. - would take a page from Boasson-Hagen on humility. The latter is a national treasure.

Has that humility been a sporting success for Boasson-Hagen?

81 races won. 3 top10 PCS rankings. He carried humility in his back pocket along for the ride. That appears to be pretty successful.

tim closed in under 40 to run 3:28.28 to be fair

Here is the final 1500m IAAF Championship 2017 and look for the heads and the who is who you will recognize:

https://youtu.be/_pyyRW9MvFA

He might be eating his words in 9 days.

I don't know about never again but there should be a complete reversal of the pecking order. That's the way it works in every sport. Once the bully is down he's kicked around.

Cheruiyot will be stunned and lose confidence while Jakob became a man. He was towering over Cheruiyot throughout that race. Like a linebacker. The outcome always seemed obvious, just like Kipyegon over Hassan at the same distance. Kara Goucher picked up on how relaxed Jakob seemed throughout.

It was not what I expected entering Tokyo. I thought Cheruiyot would use that tactic and hold off Ingebrigsten. But from the opening rounds Cheruiyot didn't look quite right. I can't really describe it perfectly but it was obvious. He was even more forward leaning than normal and not as fluid.

The other example of that was Michael Norman. At his best Norman looks sleek, not to Rai Benjamin level but in that neighborhood. When Norman is not as his best he looks heavy and sluggish. Immediately in Tokyo it was glaring that we were getting the heavy and sluggish Norman. I knew he would not be a factor.

Aaleby wrote:

ydmyk wrote:

Gjert doesn't often get things wrong, so he's probably right. But man, I wish young stars - Ingebrigtsens and Warholm inkl. - would take a page from Boasson-Hagen on humility. The latter is a national treasure.

Has that humility been a sporting success for Boasson-Hagen?

Yes.

Has your arrogance made you great at anything?

No.