The Obesification of the U.S.

sugar tits wrote:

YMMV wrote:

Nothing like a slithery-snake anon troll vegan to spew forth lies and BS on any thread I post. To my most loyal and adoring fan: yes I love you, sorry it didn't work out so well in your life.

Vegans are nuttier than keto krazies. Not sure I've ever eaten a vegan meal.

Not sure why you posted Sean Baker's license. As far as I know, he has not been mentioned in this thread.

Name one lie that I've posted.

If you mean Ken Berry he does not have a suspended license so that is BS if not a lie. The data presented are factual, completely independent of your ad hominem.

YMMV wrote:

If you mean Ken Berry he does not have a suspended license so that is BS if not a lie. The data presented are factual, completely independent of your ad hominem.

Did he get it reinstated today? As of yesterday his license was still in probation, as it has been for the past 4 years:

BERRY , KEN D

Nashville, TN 37221

Profession: Medical Doctor

Rank: Medical Doctor

Specialties:

Family Medicine

License Number: 35476

Status: On Probation

Original Date: 06/21/2001

Expiration Date: 12/31/2020

Licensee: Ken D. Berry, MD, Camden

Violation: Guilty of unprofessional conduct; to wit: The Board adopts, as is fully set out

herein, rules 1200-14-03.01 through 1200-14-03-.03 inclusive, of the

Department of Health and as they may from time to time be amended, as its rule

governing the process for implementing universal precautions for the prevention

of HIV transmissions for health care workers under its jurisdiction.

Action: License placed on probation to extend two years following the expiration of

previous period of probation with terms; assessed civil penalties in the amount

of $3,000.00 plus costs not to exceed $10,000.00

Ken Berry, MD – was not present. Ms. Alex Fisher was present as legal representative on his behalf. Jennifer Putnam represented the state. Dr. Berry’s license is currently on probation pursuant to a May 18, 2016 board order which disciplined Respondent for prescribing controlled substances and other medications without following the prerequisites to issuing prescriptions outlined in the Board’s rules. Dr. Berry (hereinafter Respondent) was also disciplined for prescribing to family members. Respondent owns and operates The Berry Clinic located in Camden, TN where he performs procedures such as punch biopsies, cryotherapy, simple fractures, joint and trigger point injections, electrocardiograms, pulmonary function testing and testosterone and estrogen pellet injections. Respondent also maintains a second clinic inside The Berry Clinic called “The Upstairs”, where the Respondent performs Botox injections, collagen induction therapy and dermal fillers. Respondent injected testosterone and estradiol pellets into patients by using stainless steel injection devices (trocars) that are manufactured and sold for single use per the Food and Drug Administration. Respondent avers that the representative for the trocar manufacturer advised reuse of the trocar devices. Respondent reused trocars from approximately 2011 to 2017. During an inspection in May 2017, it was discovered that the cleaning, disinfection and sterilization practices at the clinic were inadequate according to CDC guidelines to properly prevent the transmission of infectious agents during insertion procedures. Following the investigation by the Department of Health, Respondent implemented a new policy for the insertion of testosterone and estradiol pellet injections using single use trocars only one time, and then disposing of the trocar following the procedure. Respondent posted a video to The Upstairs Clinic’s Facebook page demonstrating “vampire facial” procedures that shows minimal adherence to routine infection prevention precautions. The Berry Clinic no longer offers “vampire facials” as part of the services provided at The Upstairs of the Berry Clinic. Immunizations and a urine sample that did not contain a patient name were stored in a small refrigerator inside the onsite laboratory facility that also contained food items. A prescription bottle of Clonidine HCL 0.1 mg with an expiration date of February 26, 2014 was found in a lab within the clinic. The expired medication had been self-prescribed by the Respondent and was used as a stock bottle maintained at the office to address immediate blood pressure needs for patients. The Respondent avers the prescription was ordered for office use, and that he did not prescribe this medication for his personal use, nor did he take this medication himself. The facts stipulated in the Stipulations of Facts are sufficient to establish that grounds for discipline of Respondent’s medical license exist. This order shall extend his probationary period for a period of two (2) years following the expiration of the initial period of probation the probationary status placed on the Tennessee medical license 35476 pursuant to the May 2016 Order. Respondent must petition the Board for an Order of Compliance and personally appear before the Board, he must obtain a certified infection preventionist to develop and maintain a comprehensive infection control plan, the Respondent must submit the outlined plan to the Board’s medical director within thirty (30) days of the effective date of this Order. Respondent must have an annual on-site inspection completed by a certified infection preventionist annually during the probationary period. Respondent must submit a quarterly report to the Boards’ medical director detailing the adherence to the infection control plan during the probationary period. Within three (3) months of the effective date of this Order the Respondent must enroll in and successfully complete ten (10) continuing medical education hours in the area of infection 16 control, and all continuing medical education courses must be pre-approved by the Boards’ medical director prior to Respondent enrolling in the course. Respondent shall mail or deliver proof of compliance with this course requirement within thirty (30) days after completion to the Disciplinary Coordinator. Respondent is required to pay one (1) Type A civil penalty in the amount of one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) for reusing a single-use stainless steel injection device, he must pay one (1) Type A civil penalty in the amount of one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) for failing to properly clean, disinfect and sterilize medical instruments, he must pay one (1) Type A civil penalty in the amount of one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) for failing to utilize infection prevention precautions. Any and all civil penalties shall be paid within sixty (60) days of the effective date of this Order. Dr. Berry must also pay all reasonable costs of this case within one (1) year from the issuance of the Assessment of Costs. Dr. Blake motioned to approve this Order. Ms. Claxton seconded and the motion carried.

People nearly everywhere are eating too much of everything. Blaming one dietary element is really strange and simplistic thinking. Doubly labelled water testing shows that overweight people lie about how much they eat and the more obese they are, the more they lie. Popular ideas such as calorie intake has not gone up is based on this fantasy.

I was headed in the wrong direction 5 years ago getting to overweight BMI (27) and coming down with prediabetes, high cholesterol, and fatty liver. I trained for a marathon (running 30 miles per week) did not lose any weight or percent body fat. It wasn't until I cleaned up my diet that I started to shed the fat and reversed my prediabetes, fatty liver, and high cholesterol and dropped to a BMI of 20. I also added a structured training program with speed workouts, tempo runs, and long runs up ranging between 70-110 miles per week and incorporating strength training. I brought my marathon time down from 4:12 as a 41 year old to 2:42 as a 45 year old guy and set PR's in everything from the mile to the marathon bettering my high school cross country and track PR's. I still think diet is the most important factor in getting to a healthy BMI and percent body fat.

Fantastic!

Ditto. That is nice to learn.

Like most people , I tend to go up if I don't take charge. I found that it is way more about food volume and/or calorie dense foods, than exercise, though I like to be fit and need to be physical. Quality of food is secondary to volume, but low quality food and calories tend to go together too.

Look at Stephen Hawking and people like this in a wheel chair or severely mobility challenged who stay slim. They don't exercise a lot, The might do some things, but they certainly not burning a couple of thousand calories a day like serious runner or even 500-1000 like a more typical hobby jogger, or gym rat. Anyway, anybody older knew lots of people who weren't big on exercise who stay slim and healthy into their 90's

This is very impressive and I almost fell off my chair when I read your improvement in Marathon from 412 to 2:42 that is absolutely incredible and very very impressive. Could you give details about your diet and whether you practice intermittent fasting. With regard to intermittent fasting which I practice assiduously it has help me to reverse pre-diabetes and fatty liver like yourself.

Are you an English-speaker? Two years probation and $3K of fines is NOT a suspension. It is the difference between a parking violation and a felony.

Dr. Berry is one of the best-informed doctors on diet, and shares his knowledge for free on his site in a form lay people can readily understand. And regardless of nitpicking against his office protocol, the FACTS of the obesity epidemic that he presented are unchanged regardless of what your opinion of his dietary advice is.

It's not about diets....

It's not about exercise....

It's about accumulated daily physical activity and the availability of quick easy food that is high in sugar and fat.

People are simply less active in their daily lives starting at childhood.

People are quick to eat out, grab fast food, etc vs making food at home. The dinner table is nothing more than a place to store stuff.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

It's not about diets....

It's not about exercise....

It's about accumulated daily physical activity and the availability of quick easy food that is high in sugar and fat.

People are simply less active in their daily lives starting at childhood.

People are quick to eat out, grab fast food, etc vs making food at home. The dinner table is nothing more than a place to store stuff.

this--too many kids living in a bubble--growing up in 70's and 80's we used to have to bike over to the arcade/friends houses etc...now you can play video games at home, text your friends; Cokes were only 10 oz. Big Gulps weren't a thing yet!

Alan

YMMV wrote:

Are you an English-speaker? Two years probation and $3K of fines is NOT a suspension. It is the difference between a parking violation and a felony.

Dr. Berry is one of the best-informed doctors on diet, and shares his knowledge for free on his site in a form lay people can readily understand. And regardless of nitpicking against his office protocol, the FACTS of the obesity epidemic that he presented are unchanged regardless of what your opinion of his dietary advice is.

Actually, his probation was three years and extended another two years because he didn't correct the problems. It's still in probation now 4.5 years after the probation started.

Prescribing medication to family members, prescribing opiods without monitoring, and reusing needles is "nitpicking" about office protocol? The board deemed it "unprofessional, dishonorable or unethical conduct". You have to screw up pretty bad to be put on probation repeatedly.

I didn't even mention his being sued by the IRS for hundreds of thousands of dollars for back taxes (I know, he's just too altruistic) or by former employees for sexual assault (I know, them womenfolk always lie).

You sure pick some winners. Go ahead and go to him for your botox injections and "vampire facials".

sugar tits wrote:

Actually,

Okay, I feel kinda guilty about that one. Ken Berry is a shyster, but that was piling on.

And I'm starting to feel guilty about provoking YMMV. With the other autistic members of our community - Matt London, 430miler, CoachJS, I've gone from amusement to pity and it's no longer fun to watch people tease them. With YMMV I'm still in the stage where it's amusing to make the jester dance, but I'm approaching the pity stage.

Thinking about leaving him in his delirium. Not saying I won't get sucked back in, but like my well-fed cat, I don't actually care that much and I'll just lay down and let the mouse go.

Anyone got a good documentary or two that specifically gets in to nutrition and what we should and shouldn’t be eating?

This doctor turns out to be guilty of highly unsanitary and dangerous practices in his clinic. However, that is irrelevant to the facts concerning the prevalence of obesity since 1990. It is astonishing that genetic arguments would continue to be raised when the prevalence of obesity has grown so rapidly in essentially the same population. Nearly every state had under 15% obesity and many under 10% in 1990. (The difference would be even starker from 1970 or even 1980). By 2018, 30 states had at least 30% of their adult population obese and I think 9 states had at least 35% obese. Exercising two hours per day (=100+ mpw) would surely solve this problem, but if you look at the difference, most of it is probably in cooking oil (meaning potato chips and the like) and sugar from drinks. You can't get a 12 oz. coke from the machines where I work, only a 20 oz., which has 240 calories with 65 g added sugars or 130% of the recommended daily value. And that's small compared to the Big Gulps, which came in in the 1980s at 32 oz. and were soon supplanted by Super Big Gulp at 64 oz. Gatorade with standard 32 oz. bottles came along. Mocha frappeccino's and the like may have hundreds of calories more and don't get me started on milkshakes, which are great but ridiculously bad for you. On 110-120 mpw, I have no problem maintaining weight under 140 lbs with a fair amount of that lousy food and drink, but only hit 154 when I don't run at all. To become obese at my height, I'd have to gain over 70 lbs, I believe. Oxford found that moderate obesity (??), which is common, cuts three years from your life expectancy, while extreme obesity (BMI 40+) cuts ten. I'd have thought that obesity would cut more than that. Another study found that extreme obesity cuts 20 years for men and 5 for women. The causes are higher cardiovascular and diabetes type 2 risks.

https://www.nhs.uk/news/obesity/obesity-could-rob-you-of-20-years-of-health/

Was bored recently, looked up escorts available in my city. Was shocked to find mostly overweight chick charging in excess of 200.00/hour for a lay. Phoque moi, I would not touch these for free.

Bottom line is that probation is not suspension and since you seem to consider yourself oh so very clever we'll just call your statement for what it is: a big fat old lie. Which is probably what the original charges were based on; medical fraud is found on every level, including panels of review.

And of course the value of the video itself is unquestionable. The U.S. is undergoing an obesity pandemic of Biblical proportions, thanks to the processed food industry and it's many partners in crime. You have not addressed that at all or provided any useful counterpoint.

Thank you for providing absolutely nothing to the discussion at hand in your attempts to threadjack with your ad hominem slurs.

jonathon wrote:

There are many factors that contribute to weight gain:

Total calories consumed

Macronutrient ratio

Micronutrient intake (how much sugar vs fibre vs complex carbs, how much vegetables vs processed foods, etc)

Meal timing (chronobiology)

Stress

Drug use (alcohol, cigarettes, pot, etc)

Quantity of sleep

Quality of sleep

Medications

Genetics

Exercise.

Pretending it is just 1 or 2 of these is kind of bizarre, when pretty much all of them have change drastically in the last 100 years.

Sure but when looking at a training program do you focus on the volume and intensity or focus on if the person is foam rolling and doing drills? Number of calories and the lack of calories being burned dominate the discussion. The rest is off in the noise category. Yes eating 2000 calories in (50/25/25) isn't the same as eating (33/33/34) but we aren't talking large differences. But it is really hard to get a book deal when your advice is eat moderate amounts of food and get some exercise. Nobody wants to hear that. They want to hear that bacon will solve (or is causing) all their problems and one simple change will solve their weight gains. And psychologically extremes appeal to people. They get to feel part of a group and in some ways whole sale changes are easier as they break up habits.

Not to sound like a dick, but also to kind of sound like a dick since nobody knows who I really am and the fact that I'm a distance runner in my 20s, I can't imagine being obese. Or even remotely overweight for that matter. How do people live like that?? The idea of not being able to run much or just sitting around all the time eating disgusting junk food and drinking soda literally seems foreign to me. And to struggle with basic semi athletic activities seems just unimaginable. Oof. This country is so fat.