Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
Ach, pelosi actually says the congress 'may be prepared' to impeach if pence does not 25A the fat man.
You clowns have been trying to get rid of Trump for 4 years. YOu never accepted the 2016 election. You are beyond pathetic. Beyone pathetic, Agip.
Trump is the biggest piece of sh&t ever. BUT he was duly elected and you never accepted it. YOU are the ones who brought this on our country.
Sally Vix wrote:
L L wrote:
If he had any self-respect he never would have agreed to be Trump's VP running mate in the first place.
Why? What had he done previously to disqualify him from being president? He was duly elected. And you Libs have spent 4 years to undo that. You can't. What Trump had dones recently is bad - but what you Liberals have done in the last 4 years is FAR FAR worse. You have tried to overturn the 2016 election simply because you hate Trump. YOU have done some very bad stuff as Trump has done. You are complicit in this threat to our democracy. Shame on Trump and Double Shame on YOU!!!
Sally, please. Use that 3.99 brain of yours and post something insightful.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
They failed miserably. Their job is to protect the Capitol and those inside. They failed miserably. They should be fired and get some people in there who can protect our legislators.
The culprits are the people that didn't assign enough officers to protect the Capitol. The officers inside the building had the choice between being overrun and shooting people. In America, police killing dozens of protestors/rioters is not acceptable.
Governor Hogan requested the National Guard be activated but the DOD took nearly 2 hours to get back to him.
There is definitely some review of what happened from a police/protection angle.
Sally Vix wrote:
Trump is the biggest piece of sh&t ever.
Hey now, don't sell yourself short of that #1 spot. You earned it most.
Sally Vix wrote:
L L wrote:
If he had any self-respect he never would have agreed to be Trump's VP running mate in the first place.
Why? What had he done previously to disqualify him from being president? He was duly elected. And you Libs have spent 4 years to undo that. You can't. What Trump had dones recently is bad - but what you Liberals have done in the last 4 years is FAR FAR worse. You have tried to overturn the 2016 election simply because you hate Trump. YOU have done some very bad stuff as Trump has done. You are complicit in this threat to our democracy. Shame on Trump and Double Shame on YOU!!!
My sentence was simple, and you still missed it.
Pence agreed to be Trump's "running mate" BEFORE he was elected.
Trump was always an arrogant selfish prick without morals and any self-respecting person would not have been his running mate at all.
I realize that since you, yourself are immoral, you have trouble spotting Trump's character flaws.
And no one tried to overturn the 2016 election. Overturn is what Trump explicitly been asking anyone and everyone to do ever since he lost.
We are learning the 25th amendment needs a majority of people in the cabinet to agree to it.
When cabinet members like Chao resign, it makes it harder to get that majority.
agip wrote:
Paradoxical wrote:
When you don't set things on fire and attack police, they are generally more lenient towards you.
More than 50 Capitol Police and metropolitan police were injured during Wednesday's attack, and several have been hospitalized with "serious injuries," according to Sund.
The place wasn't set on fire, but torn apart and left a mess.
Yeah I saw the CNN headline that said that, but after watching the videos posted I'm not sure I believe that this was a seriously violent affair that it's being made out to be.
In the link I am about to post, you will see footage of police opening the barricades to allow protesters onto the building steps. There's another of of security personnel taking selfies with protesters INSIDE the capitol building. There was also some instances I saw of people outright attacking police which I thought was uncool. I guess the security increased as people got closer to the Senate chambers, which is where protesters were shot from. Still though, this was nowhere near the scale of the BLM riots that occurred in the city where protesters were fighting secret service for entry into the White House.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-07/how-did-pro-trump-protesters-get-into-capitol-hill-washington/13038568Paradoxical wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
When the backup arrived all those people were still in there. They could have blocked the exits and made the arrests then. Certainly very different treatment from social justice protests.
When you don't set things on fire and attack police, they are generally more lenient towards you.
Last night, Biden was praising the Capital Police for their efforts in keeping people safe. Today, he's implying they are all racists.
I've always liked Joe Biden. I had hoped he could placate the Woke and BLM types (like Harris) while keeping some sense of the importance of logic and facts. Doesn't look good so far . . . .
Fat hurts wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
Well, you might be right...but I think Mike's ambitions for the future would be likely to carry more weight.
I don't see how he could win another primary if he were seen as the guy who turned against Donald.
That ship has already sailed. In Trumpland, Pence is the devil.
Yeah, the trumpsters think he is a traitor, the rinos/never trumpers think he was a Trump lackey and enabler, and Ds or Indepedents will never cross over to vote for him because of his views on abortion and LGBT rights.
He is done.
Paradoxical wrote:
agip wrote:
More than 50 Capitol Police and metropolitan police were injured during Wednesday's attack, and several have been hospitalized with "serious injuries," according to Sund.
The place wasn't set on fire, but torn apart and left a mess.
Yeah I saw the CNN headline that said that, but after watching the videos posted I'm not sure I believe that this was a seriously violent affair that it's being made out to be.
In the link I am about to post, you will see footage of police opening the barricades to allow protesters onto the building steps. There's another of of security personnel taking selfies with protesters INSIDE the capitol building. There was also some instances I saw of people outright attacking police which I thought was uncool. I guess the security increased as people got closer to the Senate chambers, which is where protesters were shot from. Still though, this was nowhere near the scale of the BLM riots that occurred in the city where protesters were fighting secret service for entry into the White House.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-07/how-did-pro-trump-protesters-get-into-capitol-hill-washington/13038568
I'm guessing, but I'd guess 50 injured cops is much, much worse than anything BLM did to the cops.
But that's just a guess.
byte wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
That ship has already sailed. In Trumpland, Pence is the devil.
Yeah, the trumpsters think he is a traitor, the rinos/never trumpers think he was a Trump lackey and enabler, and Ds or Indepedents will never cross over to vote for him because of his views on abortion and LGBT rights.
He is done.
could Pence's ended ambition...make him the perfect person to go against Trump?
If he knows he can not operate in the Trumpist party anymore...why not try to be a hero and 25A Trump? He'd be in the next 'Profiles in Courage,' remembered forever.
An instant reputation fix.
But really, that's not Pence's style. He hates the libs and that hate is more important to him than country or his rep.
L L wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Why? What had he done previously to disqualify him from being president? He was duly elected. And you Libs have spent 4 years to undo that. You can't. What Trump had dones recently is bad - but what you Liberals have done in the last 4 years is FAR FAR worse. You have tried to overturn the 2016 election simply because you hate Trump. YOU have done some very bad stuff as Trump has done. You are complicit in this threat to our democracy. Shame on Trump and Double Shame on YOU!!!
My sentence was simple, and you still missed it.
Pence agreed to be Trump's "running mate" BEFORE he was elected.
Trump was always an arrogant selfish prick without morals and any self-respecting person would not have been his running mate at all.
I realize that since you, yourself are immoral, you have trouble spotting Trump's character flaws.
And no one tried to overturn the 2016 election. Overturn is what Trump explicitly been asking anyone and everyone to do ever since he lost.
Dude I am immoral? Really?. My wife and I guy go to China annually to help those who are in really bad shape. Every year we do this. We travel with a team of doctors doing surgeries on those less fortunate. We spend 10s of thousands doing this with nothing in return. We love help thing those who are deformed, handicapped or really messed up. We love doing this. And we are immoral/6
Yes Sally, Joe, Gary, whoever, you are chronic liar and an immoral person.
Flybang mosh wrote:
Paradoxical wrote:
When you don't set things on fire and attack police, they are generally more lenient towards you.
Last night, Biden was praising the Capital Police for their efforts in keeping people safe. Today, he's implying they are all racists.
I've always liked Joe Biden. I had hoped he could placate the Woke and BLM types (like Harris) while keeping some sense of the importance of logic and facts. Doesn't look good so far . . . .
This is what he said:
"No one can tell me that if that had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesting yesterday, they wouldn't have been treated very, very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol."
Do you disagree with that?
Twice as many people were arrested at the Breonna Taylor protests than were arrested yesterday.
Trump was calling for 10 year jail sentences for anyone damaging a federal building last summer; yesterday, he told the mob he loved them and politely asked them to go home.
Look at the photos of the Nat'l Guard on the steps of the Capitol during last summer's protests, and remember that, yesterday, the Capitol Police opened the door to the Capitol to the mob and apparently took selfies with them.
Do you see any hint of unequal treatment here?
Trump, of all people, has never recognized White Privilege. Also, Trump and Pence have always considered the BLM movement a Criminal Entity. But " he is the least racist person in the room " ?!?
When BLM protests in DC:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/police-response-black-lives-matter-protest-us-capitol/index.html
When Trumpers commit treason in DC:
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/01/10251966/police-stand-by-selfies-m@ga-protestors-riot
Link problems. Try this one:
Tolliminator - You had better watch your back.
I heard on CNN that the FBI and DC police were combing social media (specifically Palor) looking for people who were at the attack, supported the attack, or assisted in instigating attacks to act.
After driving all night these guys just showed up at my compound at Ruby Ridge. I have them hunkered down in the bunker right now. Lenny, the guy with the horns, is more worried about the FBI and Pelosi than Antifa and BLM.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210106223026-01-jake-angeli-capitol-0106-exlarge-169.jpg
Sally Vix wrote:
L L wrote:
My sentence was simple, and you still missed it.
Pence agreed to be Trump's "running mate" BEFORE he was elected.
Trump was always an arrogant selfish prick without morals and any self-respecting person would not have been his running mate at all.
I realize that since you, yourself are immoral, you have trouble spotting Trump's character flaws.
And no one tried to overturn the 2016 election. Overturn is what Trump explicitly been asking anyone and everyone to do ever since he lost.
Dude I am immoral? Really?. My wife and I guy go to China annually to help those who are in really bad shape. Every year we do this. We travel with a team of doctors doing surgeries on those less fortunate. We spend 10s of thousands doing this with nothing in return. We love help thing those who are deformed, handicapped or really messed up. We love doing this. And we are immoral/6
Many evil people perform acts of charity to purchase the illusion of respectability and virtue. Andrew Carnegie is a fine example. By funding libraries all over the country and trying to "buy his way into Heaven" to atone for the treatment of workers in his steel mills and his part in the Johnstown Flood disaster.
The Koch Brothers have funded all manner of conservative policies that have hurt people and fouled the environment but, they fund arts and museums to buy goodwill.
Charity does not equal good character.
