Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Apparently 25th, you are spending a lot of time spinning in your hamster wheel.

“Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., announced Wednesday night the chamber would be out of session for more than a week until after the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden on Jan. 20. “

25th wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I'm not a lawyer either, but I do agree with you.

Impeachment is preferable because would bar Trump from ever holding public office again. And that is arguably even more important than removing him from office now.

The problem with impeachment is that Trump congressional supporters will delay action for more than a week. Meanwhile, Trump is still inciting his people this morning via call-ins to media that supports him.

Which media did he call into?

Trump really needs to resign. And then BEG Pence to give him a pardon. Because of yesterday, Trump will face Federal charges this year !!

Dr. Racket wrote:

agip wrote:

Schumer and AOC have called for removal.

Pelosi will speak at 1:00

Neither camera of congress is scheduled to meet until after the inauguration.

I'm no lawyer so I'll be interested to hear opinions from experts, but I think 25th Amendment isn't the way to go and could set a bad precedent. I also think it betrays the direct intent of the Amendment. Could be wrong though.

Impeachment and removal from office is the much better route in my opinion.

If there were consensus that Trump is a clear and present danger to the republic over the remaining two weeks of this term the 25th Amendment article 4 is, by far the quicker route to removing presidential powers.

My expectation is that no such decisive action will happen, rather we'll buckle up and ride out the term with nothing beyond rhetoric and hope for the best.

Concerned Senior wrote:

Trump really needs to resign. And then BEG Pence to give him a pardon. Because of yesterday, Trump will face Federal charges this year !!

Ironically, it looks like that will be Merrick Garland's decision to make.

Dr. Racket wrote:

agip wrote:

Schumer and AOC have called for removal.

Pelosi will speak at 1:00

Neither camera of congress is scheduled to meet until after the inauguration.

I'm no lawyer so I'll be interested to hear opinions from experts, but I think 25th Amendment isn't the way to go and could set a bad precedent. I also think it betrays the direct intent of the Amendment. Could be wrong though.

Impeachment and removal from office is the much better route in my opinion.

With Trump we always have to keep in mind that attention is a great motivator to him. The more attention that is on him, the better. While I can understand why there would be calls to remove him either via the 25th amendment or impeachment, neither are likely to be successful but would put the focus on him.....which would serve the purpose as far as he is concerned.

It would be better to simply ignore him for the final two weeks of his presidency and even go as far as to say that we now look to Mike Pence to lead us for two weeks.

25th wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I'm not a lawyer either, but I do agree with you.

Impeachment is preferable because would bar Trump from ever holding public office again. And that is arguably even more important than removing him from office now.

The problem with impeachment is that Trump congressional supporters will delay action for more than a week. Meanwhile, Trump is still inciting his people this morning via call-ins to media that supports him.

I believe both actions can happen concurrently.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Apparently 25th, you are spending a lot of time spinning in your hamster wheel.

Odd that you have hamsters on your mind. Did you mean your pet gerbils?

How did ignoring him work yesterday?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

25th wrote:

The problem with impeachment is that Trump congressional supporters will delay action for more than a week. Meanwhile, Trump is still inciting his people this morning via call-ins to media that supports him.

I believe both actions can happen concurrently.

The 25th should be invoked to stop him in his tracks. And impeachment should proceed to prevent him from running for office ever again. Impeachment also has the benefits for terminating his government pension and healthcare, and secret service protection; a billionaire can easily for those themselves.

25th wrote:

The problem with impeachment is that Trump congressional supporters will delay action for more than a week. Meanwhile, Trump is still inciting his people this morning via call-ins to media that supports him.

My understanding of the 25th math is that Pence and a majority of the cabinet could invoke it, Trump could challenge it, Congress would decide the issue but has three weeks to do so. Thus Congressional leadership could sit on the issue for the remainder of Trump's term running out the clock with Pence as acting president in the interim.

The odds of Pence and the cabinet doing this seem pretty remote.

Szolt Bende wrote:

TTH wrote:

With Trump we always have to keep in mind that attention is a great motivator to him. The more attention that is on him, the better. While I can understand why there would be calls to remove him either via the 25th amendment or impeachment, neither are likely to be successful but would put the focus on him.....which would serve the purpose as far as he is concerned.

It would be better to simply ignore him for the final two weeks of his presidency and even go as far as to say that we now look to Mike Pence to lead us for two weeks.

How did ignoring him work yesterday?

You think he was ignored yesterday or at any point during his presidency?

Marietta Tar Heel wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Ah, it is you Sally!

You are truly a fvcking idiot.

You are in the wrong here. That's a fact, not opinion. There's a reason no one here is defending your actions.

It is a not a matter of liberalism vs conservatism or Trump vs Biden. It is a matter of ethics and morality. Neither side should engage in these antics.

Trollminator is losing it. Heb je bier gedronken, TrollM?

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The 25th should be invoked to stop him in his tracks. And impeachment should proceed to prevent him from running for office ever again. Impeachment also has the benefits for terminating his government pension and healthcare, and secret service protection; a billionaire can easily for those themselves.[/quote]

This would be beautiful! Then he would have to pay for his own security and be sure to pay those bills. If he doesn't, an Iranian hit team or some Russian collections agents will be on scene the moment Eric Prince's boys exit the front gates of Mar-a-Lago.

Monkeys typing wrote:

25th wrote:

The problem with impeachment is that Trump congressional supporters will delay action for more than a week. Meanwhile, Trump is still inciting his people this morning via call-ins to media that supports him.

My understanding of the 25th math is that Pence and a majority of the cabinet could invoke it, Trump could challenge it, Congress would decide the issue but has three weeks to do so. Thus Congressional leadership could sit on the issue for the remainder of Trump's term running out the clock with Pence as acting president in the interim.

The odds of Pence and the cabinet doing this seem pretty remote.

Trump would have to wait for the challenge to be heard. Pence is in charge until then. Trump's term is over before any action by Congress needs to be taken.

Look at what happens over the next few days. If Trump stops making pardons and firing people, and Pence is the spokesperson for decisions being made, then it is possible that Pence and Trump's cabinet has done what might be a quiet 25th, meaning that Trump has secretly yielded control to Pence in return for the 25th not being publicly invoked.

Democrats lose again!!!!

Agip - do you still think Trump will win the nomination in 2024?

Monkeys typing wrote:

25th wrote:

The problem with impeachment is that Trump congressional supporters will delay action for more than a week. Meanwhile, Trump is still inciting his people this morning via call-ins to media that supports him.

My understanding of the 25th math is that Pence and a majority of the cabinet could invoke it, Trump could challenge it, Congress would decide the issue but has three weeks to do so. Thus Congressional leadership could sit on the issue for the remainder of Trump's term running out the clock with Pence as acting president in the interim.

The odds of Pence and the cabinet doing this seem pretty remote.

Pence sickeningly fawned over Trump during the last 4 years. In return, Trump demanded that he do something that was impossible and then started an attempt to destroy Pence's future political career. If Pence has even a hint of self-respect, he should be leading the Article 25 charge.

s*it hole country wrote:

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127 people were arrested in protests immediately after the results of the investigation into Breonna Taylor's killing were announced.

Yesterday, 52 people were arrested when a mob of perhaps a couple of hundred, many of them armed, stormed the Capitol and tried to take down the government. Of those arrested, 47 were arrested later in the evening, for curfew violation.

I understand that there may be more arrests, since many of these idiots are on video. But how does a mob invade the Capitol building and only 5 of them get arrested? My initial thought yesterday when I found out that Trumpers were inside the Capitol was that they should simply lock the doors, and just arrest all of them that were inside. However, it now looks like the Capitol Police would have been outmanned and probably outgunned within the building itself, and couldn't possibly have arrested those who entered the building without initiating a deadly gunfight.

I assume there will be an investigation into the police response yesterday. The Capitol Police were obviously overwhelmed. Since what happened really wasn't unanticipated, I'd like to know why there weren't more, and more effective, law enforcement present before things got out of hand. I hate to be cynical, but a small part of me wonders if Trump was somehow involved in intentionally minimizing the police presence at the Capitol. There have been vague reports about when and whether the National Guard was called in, whether the initial request for assistance from the Nat'l Guard was denied, and why it was Pence and not Trump who ultimately ordered the Nat'l Guard to respond.