I don't know if all the Parler talk affected the Georgia runoffs much.
Turnout on both sides was pretty good for an off cycle event.
Loeffler received more votes the second time around.
Both Perdue and Ossoff had near equivalent dropoffs from the first round.
Eliminating other candidates helped the Democrats more.
It certainly didn't look like a big Republican boycott.
But if got 75,000 boycotters, I guess it worked.
johnny99 wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
Perhaps you don't know where the fvck Marietta is.
I doubt that his behaviour is limited to just getting Trumpsters to boycott the Georgia election. A fool would think otherwise.
Inciting these people is dangerous. We found that out yesterday.
Nobody on here incited anyone to storm the Capitol and try to take down the government.
I agree with you that inciting Trump supporters to commit treasonous and violent acts would be wrong and dangerous, but nobody who posts on this thread did that. Convincing people to sit out the GA runoff is not the same as convincing to do what we saw yesterday.
Don't mind the chronically butthurt Sally.. he's having a very hard time facing his catastrophic loss with the GA elections. He was looking forward to libs being owned but that dream was snatched away.
Trollminator wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
Nobody on here incited anyone to storm the Capitol and try to take down the government.
I agree with you that inciting Trump supporters to commit treasonous and violent acts would be wrong and dangerous, but nobody who posts on this thread did that. Convincing people to sit out the GA runoff is not the same as convincing to do what we saw yesterday.
Don't mind the chronically butthurt Sally.. he's having a very hard time facing his catastrophic loss with the GA elections. He was looking forward to libs being owned but that dream was snatched away.
You're not helping your case here by referring to me as another poster.
I'm actually celebrating my wins in Georgia since I voted for both Ossoff and the good Reverand. History was made here on Tuesday.
L L wrote:
I don't know if all the Parler talk affected the Georgia runoffs much.
Turnout on both sides was pretty good for an off cycle event.
Loeffler received more votes the second time around.
Both Perdue and Ossoff had near equivalent dropoffs from the first round.
Eliminating other candidates helped the Democrats more.
It certainly didn't look like a big Republican boycott.
But if got 75,000 boycotters, I guess it worked.
It's hard to say what the impact was. From the Parler groups I would estimate 3-5k but then there are their family members and friends. It was time very well spent IMO. Sending $200 to the candidates might have helped register some new Dems, but it was never going to help reach these republicans. If I helped convince just a few trumpers then it was worth the effort. I've done a bit of local neighborhood campaigning before and it never felt like an effective strategy with most people refusing to engage and often getting upset. With this method, I could meet them in their safe space and work them slowly.
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Don't mind the chronically butthurt Sally.. he's having a very hard time facing his catastrophic loss with the GA elections. He was looking forward to libs being owned but that dream was snatched away.
You're not helping your case here by referring to me as another poster.
I'm actually celebrating my wins in Georgia since I voted for both Ossoff and the good Reverand. History was made here on Tuesday.
If you're not Sally then why are you having a hard time seeing the difference between urging people not to vote vs inciting people to meet up in DC armed and storm the capitol?
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
highhoppingworm wrote:
I am of two minds about this. On the one hand extraordinary situations call for extraordinary measured. I don't begrudge troll for the work he did to help turn the GA election. This sent a strong message to the GOP and will help enable the next couple of years and beyond to be successful along a number of dimensions.
That said, I would agree that moving forward as a general operating rule it is wrong to lie and mislead people. It further perpetuates a cycle of swampiness that we badly need to get away from.
This is my way of saying... well done troll... now please stop.
I disagree.
Think about is some Republican was doing the same thing to the far left wing of our party. They were telling people to stay home and not vote for Warnock or Ossoff because they were not 'liberal' enough and would not push for certain legislation.
Except democrats wouldn't fall for something that dumb. These trumpers were willing to sabotage their own conservative interests to stick it to the GOP. They were angry. You can thank me for helping them take their anger out peacefully vs violently.
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
highhoppingworm wrote:
I am of two minds about this. On the one hand extraordinary situations call for extraordinary measured. I don't begrudge troll for the work he did to help turn the GA election. This sent a strong message to the GOP and will help enable the next couple of years and beyond to be successful along a number of dimensions.
That said, I would agree that moving forward as a general operating rule it is wrong to lie and mislead people. It further perpetuates a cycle of swampiness that we badly need to get away from.
This is my way of saying... well done troll... now please stop.
I disagree.
Think about is some Republican was doing the same thing to the far left wing of our party. They were telling people to stay home and not vote for Warnock or Ossoff because they were not 'liberal' enough and would not push for certain legislation.
Slippery slope. Should the war of dirty political tricks escalate? Will republicans figure they need more effectively dirty tricks to counter dems dirty tricks? Is this dirty a response to past Republican dirty tricks.
Are ethics now irrelevant? Where does it end?
Trollminator wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
I disagree.
Think about is some Republican was doing the same thing to the far left wing of our party. They were telling people to stay home and not vote for Warnock or Ossoff because they were not 'liberal' enough and would not push for certain legislation.
Except democrats wouldn't fall for something that dumb. These trumpers were willing to sabotage their own conservative interests to stick it to the GOP. They were angry. You can thank me for helping them take their anger out peacefully vs violently.
Not sure I would use the term "dumb," but we did have a significant number of Sanders supporters who threatened to not vote for Biden because he was too moderate.
Very similar circumstances.
point made.. wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
I disagree.
Think about is some Republican was doing the same thing to the far left wing of our party. They were telling people to stay home and not vote for Warnock or Ossoff because they were not 'liberal' enough and would not push for certain legislation.
Slippery slope. Should the war of dirty political tricks escalate? Will republicans figure they need more effectively dirty tricks to counter dems dirty tricks? Is this dirty a response to past Republican dirty tricks.
Are ethics now irrelevant? Where does it end?
It is a slippery slope.
I prefer to be on the ethical side. Apparently, some here are not.
Trollminator wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
You're not helping your case here by referring to me as another poster.
I'm actually celebrating my wins in Georgia since I voted for both Ossoff and the good Reverand. History was made here on Tuesday.
If you're not Sally then why are you having a hard time seeing the difference between urging people not to vote vs inciting people to meet up in DC armed and storm the capitol?
Do you not see that certain unethical and immoral behaviour often leads to other unethical and immoral behaviour?
Trollminator wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
I disagree.
Think about is some Republican was doing the same thing to the far left wing of our party. They were telling people to stay home and not vote for Warnock or Ossoff because they were not 'liberal' enough and would not push for certain legislation.
Except democrats wouldn't fall for something that dumb. These trumpers were willing to sabotage their own conservative interests to stick it to the GOP. They were angry. You can thank me for helping them take their anger out peacefully vs violently.
In 2016 there were allegedly Bernie supporters that boycotted the general election because of high level DNC officials apparent bias toward Hillary. There is evidence that disinformation actors exploited this fracture. Again, we don't know the magnitude effect of this, but it's probably more than nothing.
Trollminator wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
You're not helping your case here by referring to me as another poster.
I'm actually celebrating my wins in Georgia since I voted for both Ossoff and the good Reverand. History was made here on Tuesday.
If you're not Sally then why are you having a hard time seeing the difference between urging people not to vote vs inciting people to meet up in DC armed and storm the capitol?
At this point, I don't think we will ever get to the bottom of who is, and who isn't, Sally. S/he has taken on enigma status, like a D.B. Copper type situation. Misinformation, rumors, speculation, alleged sightings. Sometimes I wonder whether Sally even exists, or is s/he just an apparition - an ethereal amalgam of our collective desires and delusions?
from inside the capitol yesterday.
the thing is, when the president, republican party and fox lies to people, the people believe the lies.
it's not a political game.
if those groups keep lying, we will lose our democracy.
https://twitter.com/MattGarrahan/status/1346959244051013634?s=20
Trollminator wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
You're not helping your case here by referring to me as another poster.
I'm actually celebrating my wins in Georgia since I voted for both Ossoff and the good Reverand. History was made here on Tuesday.
If you're not Sally then why are you having a hard time seeing the difference between urging people not to vote vs inciting people to meet up in DC armed and storm the capitol?
Major foul up Trollmin. - I don't have any idea what Parler is.
Monkeys typing wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Except democrats wouldn't fall for something that dumb. These trumpers were willing to sabotage their own conservative interests to stick it to the GOP. They were angry. You can thank me for helping them take their anger out peacefully vs violently.
In 2016 there were allegedly Bernie supporters that boycotted the general election because of high level DNC officials apparent bias toward Hillary. There is evidence that disinformation actors exploited this fracture. Again, we don't know the magnitude effect of this, but it's probably more than nothing.
^Correct.
It is unethical and immoral, no matter who does it.
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Except democrats wouldn't fall for something that dumb. These trumpers were willing to sabotage their own conservative interests to stick it to the GOP. They were angry. You can thank me for helping them take their anger out peacefully vs violently.
Not sure I would use the term "dumb," but we did have a significant number of Sanders supporters who threatened to not vote for Biden because he was too moderate.
Very similar circumstances.
Different scale and level of desperation altogether
Trollminator wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
Not sure I would use the term "dumb," but we did have a significant number of Sanders supporters who threatened to not vote for Biden because he was too moderate.
Very similar circumstances.
Different scale and level of desperation altogether
It's not.
As a poster mentioned before, it happened in 2016 too.
STOP NOW.
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
Monkeys typing wrote:
In 2016 there were allegedly Bernie supporters that boycotted the general election because of high level DNC officials apparent bias toward Hillary. There is evidence that disinformation actors exploited this fracture. Again, we don't know the magnitude effect of this, but it's probably more than nothing.
^Correct.
It is unethical and immoral, no matter who does it.
That is us politics... voter suppression, logistical tactics to prevent turnout on election day, mud slinging left and right, promises candidates know they won't be able to keep... if you think anyone is running a squeaky clean and honest campaign you are out of your mind. Most can't win that way. Yes there are boundaries and mine would be aligned with what the law allows.
Trollminator wrote:
Marietta Tar Heel wrote:
^Correct.
It is unethical and immoral, no matter who does it.
That is us politics... voter suppression, logistical tactics to prevent turnout on election day, mud slinging left and right, promises candidates know they won't be able to keep... if you think anyone is running a squeaky clean and honest campaign you are out of your mind. Most can't win that way. Yes there are boundaries and mine would be aligned with what the law allows.
I strive to be better than that.
You should too.
STOP NOW.