I only say Kenya was the most successful country. Backed up by any statistc. But you don't even know the Olympic champions. And only 13:16.
Your case is built on arguing that achieving minor placings in a given period made Kenya the "most successful" country. You have to select those goal posts because Kenya had few winners at Olympic level - only two - and few world records - again, only two (one of which Clarke promptly obliterated). You are actually arguing (though you don't realise it) that Kenyan "success" is built on their losing - because they weren't winning Olympic titles or setting world marks from the 800m to the marathon. Athletes from other countries were.
Kenya has had 10 world records, not 2. No other nation has more than 6.
Kenya has had 3 Olympic champs, not 2.
The most Olympic gold medals were won by Finland (5). 4 by Viren (Kenya boycotted the 76 games).
But Finland is so far behind in almost any other metric that it's still way behind Kenya in the period 1964 - 1979.
Built on losing - but they have won more than all the others.
So far not a single of your dozens of posts was related to the subject.
You are not even able to check some Olympic champions, Commonwealth champions, world records, african records, national records. You don't know anything about the subject you want to discuss.
Your case is built on arguing that achieving minor placings in a given period made Kenya the "most successful" country. You have to select those goal posts because Kenya had few winners at Olympic level - only two - and few world records - again, only two (one of which Clarke promptly obliterated). You are actually arguing (though you don't realise it) that Kenyan "success" is built on their losing - because they weren't winning Olympic titles or setting world marks from the 800m to the marathon. Athletes from other countries were.
Kenya has had 10 world records, not 2. No other nation has more than 6.
Kenya has had 3 Olympic champs, not 2.
The most Olympic gold medals were won by Finland (5). 4 by Viren (Kenya boycotted the 76 games).
But Finland is so far behind in almost any other metric that it's still way behind Kenya in the period 1964 - 1979.
Built on losing - but they have won more than all the others.
So far not a single of your dozens of posts was related to the subject.
You are not even able to check some Olympic champions, Commonwealth champions, world records, african records, national records. You don't know anything about the subject you want to discuss.
You can't name the mysterious third gold medallist after Keino and Temu - despite being repeatedly pressed to. They don't exist.
In the distances from 800m to the marathon, what were the world records they achieved besides Keino's 3k and 5k?
Here are the correct numbers for the World records:
Kenya - 10
New Zealand - 5 (incl. 2000m)
Australia - 7 (6 by Clarke, last WR in 1970) + 2 WB In 2 Miles slightly inferior to the 3000m mark + a practically equal of the 800m record)
But I think much more meaningful is the statistic about the NRs in a 5 year rhythm. And also the fact that Kenya was the only nation who has had a runner in the top 2 all-time in any event.
Here are the correct numbers for the World records:
Kenya - 10
New Zealand - 5 (incl. 2000m)
Australia - 7 (6 by Clarke, last WR in 1970) + 2 WB In 2 Miles slightly inferior to the 3000m mark + a practically equal of the 800m record)
But I think much more meaningful is the statistic about the NRs in a 5 year rhythm. And also the fact that Kenya was the only nation who has had a runner in the top 2 all-time in any event.
Your numbers are just bs. What "10 world records"?
Kenya has had 10 world records, not 2. No other nation has more than 6.
Kenya has had 3 Olympic champs, not 2.
The most Olympic gold medals were won by Finland (5). 4 by Viren (Kenya boycotted the 76 games).
But Finland is so far behind in almost any other metric that it's still way behind Kenya in the period 1964 - 1979.
Built on losing - but they have won more than all the others.
So far not a single of your dozens of posts was related to the subject.
You are not even able to check some Olympic champions, Commonwealth champions, world records, african records, national records. You don't know anything about the subject you want to discuss.
You can't name the mysterious third gold medallist after Keino and Temu - despite being repeatedly pressed to. They don't exist.
In the distances from 800m to the marathon, what were the world records they achieved besides Keino's 3k and 5k?
Still no name. And still no wr's besides Keino's 3k and 5k.
I'm comparing any African record which were set, commonwealth games success, national records in various years, placings in all-time lists and more - and this imbecile struggels since weeks with Olympic champions and world records.
I'm comparing any African record which were set, commonwealth games success, national records in various years, placings in all-time lists and more - and this imbecile struggels since weeks with Olympic champions and world records.
The Olympic champions and world record-holders are the pinnacle of the sport. Sadly for you, very few of them were Kenyan. Only two, in fact. They sure needed to dope. Which they have.
Armstronglives, are you aware that Kenyan athletes lived two following Olympic boycotts (1976 like all the African Countries against the aparteid of South Africa, and 1980 because connected with Western Countries like US that refused to participate in Moscow), in a period with Commonwealth Games every 4 years and nothing else ? Not only, but in the same period there was a conflict between Ethiopia and Kenya that reduced possibilities and motivation of their athletes ? Do you really think that an athlete like Henry Rono couldn't be able to win Gold in Olympic or to better more times the WR of 5000 and 10000m, if there was continuity in his competitions and in his training ?
This is like the myth that black people were not talented for swimming or playing tennis. The main reason is that black people were not allowed to go in some pool (also not allowed to use the same buses of white people...) and starting to play tennis required to spend a lot of money, so the only exception was Ashe, but after there were the Williams sisters, and some other good player.
Please, stop to compare sports different for equipment, facilities and local interest, without looking at social problems. Of sure, the European Countries didn't have to face, in the period 1970-1983 (date of the first edition of WCh), the same social problems of African Countries.
