Rigged for Hillary wrote:
law and order SVU wrote:
Why is Trump still campaigning so aggressively in states like NC, AZ, and FL, which are "on lock"? Does he know they are "on lock"? Have you told him they are "on lock"?!?!
Trump is helping the down ballot candidates in those three states.
You are still barfing up your crap? You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered.
L L wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
The Trump Flags on jacked pickup trucks will scare the liberals off. That and the Blue police support American flags will strike fear in the liberal commies from the left coast. ?
Is this the plan at polling places to intimidate voters who may want to choose Biden?
Yes, Putin ??instructed Trump voters via secret imbedded messages on Zerohedge to do this.
Flagpole wrote:
People do not like to waste their time. There for sure will be Republicans who decided to wait until Election Day who will see the writing on the wall and won't go waste their time in a long line to vote for a loser. This has been a bad strategy all along for the Republicans, and Trump and the GOP should have encouraged them all to go vote early. There are only two reasons I can see that they didn't (and on this, I AM open to other suggestions):
1) Stupidity of the Trump campaign.
2) They figure that somehow the late Republican voters have a better chance of mucking up the results in some way so that they can cry fraud.
I will modify your second reason, which has merit.
They will cry fraud. They already are.
I have a Trump friend who says mail-in ballots don't count and aren't real.
So when Trump loses, they will say to toss out the mail-in ballots and only count the in person ballots.
Trump knows he will lose. He's encouraging in person over mail-in so he has a tool to cry foul and claim he won.
My concern is still the millions of Democrats who will wait until election day and face long lines and changed voting locations.
Not everyone in America is getting their news from Letsrun.
Nah, but he's got 'em "on lock". His high tide will raise their boats, right? They should be good. His supporters don't need to be reminded to vote R down the ballot, do they?
Oh, one other thing: what down ballot race needs his help in FL?
agip wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
See above
Trollminator:
He could not have won in 2012, 2008 or before.. he was scanning the political climate for many years and finally saw his opportunity. So again, I'll give him credit for being an opportunist, but lets be real the stars aligned for him in 2016 (help from Putin and Comey, and HRC dislike) and his tactics would have blown up bigly any other time.
Agip:
Well that's my point: Trump is a survivor and will always find, somehow, the opportunity. He's been able to do that his whole professional life. And I see no real reason to expect that will change now. Unless the law comes down on him too hard. That's a new one for him at this level. No corrupt NYS politician will save him now in exchange for a $20k donation - instead they want to build a career on destroying trump.
As for being born with a silver spoon...yeah sure ok. But there's no doubt he built something enormous by himself. Hardly any 2nd gen kids do as well as he did. Can you name any? DJT built something enormous - he was given a start but then he did the building. Big enough to lose almost a billion dollars in one year.
He ran businesses that ripped people off using fraudulent numbers, criminal enterprises that he then ran into the ground. Should he get positive credit for that? I give him credit for the apprentice, but it seems he also blew that money in his schemes. Can you say that at any one point he was actually solvent? I don't mean cash flow (other people's cash).
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Trump is helping the down ballot candidates in those three states.
Trump has never had a thought run through his head that considered helping anyone but himself.
He's there because he likes to be around people that adore him.
agip wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Trump is going to fail big time at any post-office venture. He MIGHT be able to make some money on a speaking tour, but even that will be muted compared to past presidents. He is tarnished. People do not love DONALD TRUMP...they love the idea of racism that he promotes, but that only goes so far as he has any power. He will be yesterday's news very quickly after the Inauguration of Joe Biden.
think personalized 'collector' guns, think time-shares, think m@ga cruises, radio and tv shares, etc.
Nah. He won't be able to make much on that or ANYTHING. A couple things might start out hot, but the cult is busted when he loses, and the steam is really let out once Biden is inaugurated. He will be hampered further because he will be seen more and more as a loser. We are going to find out that he's not a billionaire. We are going to find out (in a way that even the delusional will understand) that he's not a successful businessman. He will have legal issues to fight. He had REALLY better mind his Ps and Qs after losing the election (and before even) lest there are additional charges that land him in prison for a very long time. He is for sure capable of trying something VERY illegal to try to retain power.
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
think personalized 'collector' guns, think time-shares, think m@ga cruises, radio and tv shares, etc.
Nah. He won't be able to make much on that or ANYTHING. A couple things might start out hot, but the cult is busted when he loses, and the steam is really let out once Biden is inaugurated. He will be hampered further because he will be seen more and more as a loser. We are going to find out that he's not a billionaire. We are going to find out (in a way that even the delusional will understand) that he's not a successful businessman. He will have legal issues to fight. He had REALLY better mind his Ps and Qs after losing the election (and before even) lest there are additional charges that land him in prison for a very long time. He is for sure capable of trying something VERY illegal to try to retain power.
suckers don't abandon their heroes...to abandon their heroes is to admit that they were wrong to give their adulation in the first place.
What other politician has people flying giant flags from behind their pickups? Trump is a special kind of leader - he inspires passion that is hard to break. Obviously.
But sure, jailtime would change that.
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
Trollminator:
He could not have won in 2012, 2008 or before.. he was scanning the political climate for many years and finally saw his opportunity. So again, I'll give him credit for being an opportunist, but lets be real the stars aligned for him in 2016 (help from Putin and Comey, and HRC dislike) and his tactics would have blown up bigly any other time.
Agip:
Well that's my point: Trump is a survivor and will always find, somehow, the opportunity. He's been able to do that his whole professional life. And I see no real reason to expect that will change now. Unless the law comes down on him too hard. That's a new one for him at this level. No corrupt NYS politician will save him now in exchange for a $20k donation - instead they want to build a career on destroying trump.
As for being born with a silver spoon...yeah sure ok. But there's no doubt he built something enormous by himself. Hardly any 2nd gen kids do as well as he did. Can you name any? DJT built something enormous - he was given a start but then he did the building. Big enough to lose almost a billion dollars in one year.
He ran businesses that ripped people off using fraudulent numbers, criminal enterprises that he then ran into the ground. Should he get positive credit for that? I give him credit for the apprentice, but it seems he also blew that money in his schemes. Can you say that at any one point he was actually solvent? I don't mean cash flow (other people's cash).
look, I don't know, but to survive 40 years would suggest that yes, he was solvent.
What makes you say that exactly?
agip wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Nah. He won't be able to make much on that or ANYTHING. A couple things might start out hot, but the cult is busted when he loses, and the steam is really let out once Biden is inaugurated. He will be hampered further because he will be seen more and more as a loser. We are going to find out that he's not a billionaire. We are going to find out (in a way that even the delusional will understand) that he's not a successful businessman. He will have legal issues to fight. He had REALLY better mind his Ps and Qs after losing the election (and before even) lest there are additional charges that land him in prison for a very long time. He is for sure capable of trying something VERY illegal to try to retain power.
suckers don't abandon their heroes...to abandon their heroes is to admit that they were wrong to give their adulation in the first place.
What other politician has people flying giant flags from behind their pickups? Trump is a special kind of leader - he inspires passion that is hard to break. Obviously.
But sure, jailtime would change that.
Trumps victory and a Trump White House has signified victory and supremacy for his followers.
IF he loses, then pretty much all of that is gone over night.
They will no longer be able to fly his flag as a means of triumphalism.
Gina wrote:
agip wrote:
suckers don't abandon their heroes...to abandon their heroes is to admit that they were wrong to give their adulation in the first place.
What other politician has people flying giant flags from behind their pickups? Trump is a special kind of leader - he inspires passion that is hard to break. Obviously.
But sure, jailtime would change that.
Trumps victory and a Trump White House has signified victory and supremacy for his followers.
IF he loses, then pretty much all of that is gone over night.
They will no longer be able to fly his flag as a means of triumphalism.
people have flown the confederate battle flag for 160 years despite losing that war.
highhoppingworm wrote:
What makes you say that exactly?
which what?
I've said a lot, maybe too much
If you hypothetically take color and race out of this the very people who support Trump would be disgusted by an entitled born into wealth New Yorker from a Democratic family pontificating about wealth and hard work.
However the racism is there, so these same people lap it up and likely echo it.
They are that fvcking stupid and that easily manipulated. Racism is a strong drug.
agip wrote:
Gina wrote:
Trumps victory and a Trump White House has signified victory and supremacy for his followers.
IF he loses, then pretty much all of that is gone over night.
They will no longer be able to fly his flag as a means of triumphalism.
people have flown the confederate battle flag for 160 years despite losing that war.
The confederate flag still pisses Libs off, a a Trump defeat will make him a laughing stock. It won’t have the same impact at all.
Florida Man weighs in on the election: https://www.fox8live.com/2020/10/26/police-florida-man-stole-bulldozer-ran-down-biden-signs/
Gina wrote:
agip wrote:
people have flown the confederate battle flag for 160 years despite losing that war.
The confederate flag still pisses Libs off, a a Trump defeat will make him a laughing stock. It won’t have the same impact at all.
does anything piss libs off more than Trump?
No.
Gina wrote:
agip wrote:
suckers don't abandon their heroes...to abandon their heroes is to admit that they were wrong to give their adulation in the first place.
What other politician has people flying giant flags from behind their pickups? Trump is a special kind of leader - he inspires passion that is hard to break. Obviously.
But sure, jailtime would change that.
Trumps victory and a Trump White House has signified victory and supremacy for his followers.
IF he loses, then pretty much all of that is gone over night.
They will no longer be able to fly his flag as a means of triumphalism.
Except they are still flying the confederate flag.
agip wrote:
Gina wrote:
The confederate flag still pisses Libs off, a a Trump defeat will make him a laughing stock. It won’t have the same impact at all.
does anything piss libs off more than Trump?
No.
That is true and has been for about four years but it will vanish over night IF he loses.
If I still see idiots with trump flags if he loses an election, I’ll laugh them.
Wait and see.
sorry didn't read other posts