Let’s talk about this QAnon and Trumpsters.
This is the conversation you refuse to discuss.
Let’s talk about this QAnon and Trumpsters.
This is the conversation you refuse to discuss.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Well if you support people trying to suppress the vote, that seems to me to be anti-american.
Tell me how I suppressed voting?
Oh, come on, now. You're better than this.
DK said "if you SUPPORT people trying to suppress the vote"--how is that not clear?
Or have you turned troll?
*ahem* wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Tell me how I suppressed voting?
Oh, come on, now. You're better than this.
DK said "if you SUPPORT people trying to suppress the vote"--how is that not clear?
Or have you turned troll?
Oh, so you support Democratic dictatorship by packing the Supreme Court and adding states to the Union. You and your buddy posters have some screws on the side of your head that need to be tighten.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
*ahem* wrote:
Oh, come on, now. You're better than this.
DK said "if you SUPPORT people trying to suppress the vote"--how is that not clear?
Or have you turned troll?
Oh, so you support Democratic dictatorship by packing the Supreme Court and adding states to the Union. You and your buddy posters have some screws on the side of your head that need to be tighten.
Neither of these are traitorous acts.
1) I do not support packing the Supreme Court but it is; a) not an unreasonable thing to consider, given how the GOP treated the election year vacancies of 2016 and 2020. It is also not in any way unConstitutional - just unwise.
2) Adding states is a natural part of the process. Certainly Puerto Rico should be admitted as a state if that is something that they choose. There are currently more Americans in Puerto Rico than in Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, . . . Twenty states in all have fewer Americans than Puerto Rico.
Or should we only recognize the original 13?
Actively working to suppress the vote is traitorous.
You actively support those who work to suppress the vote. Traitorous.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
*ahem* wrote:
Oh, come on, now. You're better than this.
DK said "if you SUPPORT people trying to suppress the vote"--how is that not clear?
Or have you turned troll?
Oh, so you support Democratic dictatorship by packing the Supreme Court and adding states to the Union. You and your buddy posters have some screws on the side of your head that need to be tighten.
This is not addressed to me but I am going to give my thoughts because I don't think you actually believe all of the zerohedge stuff you post... I think you do it to annoy some posters. You are certainly right leaning but I don't think you are unreasonable in the real world...
Now to respond to your two sentences above.
1) Packing the SC is a bad idea because it will just lead to more packing when the 'other side' regains control. .. and thus the SC just becomes a political tool which is bad. For this reason I do not think it will happen.
That said, sadly ,the current party in charge has actually made the SC a political tool. My question for you is what is the best way for us, as Americans, to resolve that? If you don't believe the current party in charge hasn't made the SC a political tool you are not being honest with yourself.
2) When is the proper time to add states to the union and what should the criteria be? Should we never do it again? Is it really fair and democratic for the Dakotas to have more say in the Senate than CA or TX or NY ... places where more people actually live? How should that issue be resolved and would you feel the same way if the Dakotas were super liberal leaning? Be honest with yourself.
If you don't believe the current party in charge has made.... not hasn't (sorry)
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Oh, so you support Democratic dictatorship by packing the Supreme Court and adding states to the Union. You and your buddy posters have some screws on the side of your head that need to be tighten.
I’ll also answer this.
Court packing: I don’t favor this because where does it end? However, what the GOP is pulling is the height of hypocrisy. Scalia died in February 2016 and Obama nominated a 65 year old middle of the road judge, instead of trying to install someone that could potentially serve for three or more decades.
Now with a week to go before a presidential election, the same GOP is rushing through a lifetime appointment to radically alter the alignment of the Supreme Court, instead of following the standard they themselves insisted on.
And Coney Barrett is a hypocrite herself. She advocated against filling Scalia’s seat ahead of the 2016 election and especially with a judge with a very different judicial philosophy than that of Scalia’s. Now Coney Barrett is doing exactly what she preached against four years ago.
The GOP has enacted a scorched earth policy with respect to the Supreme Court. Assuming a Clinton victory in 2016, members of the GOP-led Senate planned to simply deny her any Supreme Court appointments. It's obstruction of government.
On the issue of states:
If the people of Washington DC and Puerto Rico with their lands to be full fledged states, why should they be denied the representation they desire? Do you agree that people deserve representation irrespective of their political leanings? Members of the GOP are on record stating that they don’t want to grant statehood and representation to these places because of how they’ll vote. Is that not voter suppression?
Washington DC has a population 40% greater than that of Wyoming. They want full representation in Congress. There’s no just reason to deny this. The official reason has been that “the founding fathers never intended for the capital to be a state.” James Madison wrote as much in the Federalist. However, the Founding Fathers also never intended for women to vote or for black people to be counted as full citizens. The people of DC deserve full representation.
And Puerto Rico as well, should they vote for that.
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
1101 wrote:
Are you claiming that actively supporting efforts of voter suppression is not traitorous?
Trumpers like him do not think it's "voter suppression." They believe it is "preventing voter fraud." So they think they are patriotic because they are protecting the votes of "real Americans" from the illegal votes by "intruders."
Remember, up is down and black is white with Trumpers like Igy.
I think with Iggy it’s just pure white anxiety... plus he’s a forgotten old fart angry at the world and Trump gave him a few targets to take it out on.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
law and order SVU wrote:
I only know you by your posts on this thread...not a good look.
You worse look appearing to be an unhinged crazy.
Me not worse look! Back it take!
Jeff Wigand wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Oh, so you support Democratic dictatorship by packing the Supreme Court and adding states to the Union. You and your buddy posters have some screws on the side of your head that need to be tighten.
I’ll also answer this.
Court packing: I don’t favor this because where does it end? However, what the GOP is pulling is the height of hypocrisy. Scalia died in February 2016 and Obama nominated a 65 year old middle of the road judge, instead of trying to install someone that could potentially serve for three or more decades.
Now with a week to go before a presidential election, the same GOP is rushing through a lifetime appointment to radically alter the alignment of the Supreme Court, instead of following the standard they themselves insisted on.
And Coney Barrett is a hypocrite herself. She advocated against filling Scalia’s seat ahead of the 2016 election and especially with a judge with a very different judicial philosophy than that of Scalia’s. Now Coney Barrett is doing exactly what she preached against four years ago.
The GOP has enacted a scorched earth policy with respect to the Supreme Court. Assuming a Clinton victory in 2016, members of the GOP-led Senate planned to simply deny her any Supreme Court appointments. It's obstruction of government.
On the issue of states:
If the people of Washington DC and Puerto Rico with their lands to be full fledged states, why should they be denied the representation they desire? Do you agree that people deserve representation irrespective of their political leanings? Members of the GOP are on record stating that they don’t want to grant statehood and representation to these places because of how they’ll vote. Is that not voter suppression?
Washington DC has a population 40% greater than that of Wyoming. They want full representation in Congress. There’s no just reason to deny this. The official reason has been that “the founding fathers never intended for the capital to be a state.” James Madison wrote as much in the Federalist. However, the Founding Fathers also never intended for women to vote or for black people to be counted as full citizens. The people of DC deserve full representation.
And Puerto Rico as well, should they vote for that.
You forgot all the court packing the GOP has been doing across the states they run. The Dems are hypothesizing it in the SC, the GOP HAS BEEN DOING IT. Not a peep from the likes of Iggy.
Jeff Wigand wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Oh, so you support Democratic dictatorship by packing the Supreme Court and adding states to the Union. You and your buddy posters have some screws on the side of your head that need to be tighten.
I’ll also answer this.
Court packing: I don’t favor this because where does it end? However, what the GOP is pulling is the height of hypocrisy. Scalia died in February 2016 and Obama nominated a 65 year old middle of the road judge, instead of trying to install someone that could potentially serve for three or more decades.
Now with a week to go before a presidential election, the same GOP is rushing through a lifetime appointment to radically alter the alignment of the Supreme Court, instead of following the standard they themselves insisted on.
And Coney Barrett is a hypocrite herself. She advocated against filling Scalia’s seat ahead of the 2016 election and especially with a judge with a very different judicial philosophy than that of Scalia’s. Now Coney Barrett is doing exactly what she preached against four years ago.
The GOP has enacted a scorched earth policy with respect to the Supreme Court. Assuming a Clinton victory in 2016, members of the GOP-led Senate planned to simply deny her any Supreme Court appointments. It's obstruction of government.
On the issue of states:
If the people of Washington DC and Puerto Rico with their lands to be full fledged states, why should they be denied the representation they desire? Do you agree that people deserve representation irrespective of their political leanings? Members of the GOP are on record stating that they don’t want to grant statehood and representation to these places because of how they’ll vote. Is that not voter suppression?
Washington DC has a population 40% greater than that of Wyoming. They want full representation in Congress. There’s no just reason to deny this. The official reason has been that “the founding fathers never intended for the capital to be a state.” James Madison wrote as much in the Federalist. However, the Founding Fathers also never intended for women to vote or for black people to be counted as full citizens. The people of DC deserve full representation.
And Puerto Rico as well, should they vote for that.
You want all Democratic power. You support dangerous demagoguery .Yet look at the states and cities Democrats have controlled for decades. They are cesspools of mismanagement, corruption, and violence. Democrats try to keep the fiction going of support for minority advancement, yet the truth is using minorities for power. Fortunately, it looks like many racial and ethnic groups see the truth. Fortunately regardless of the election outcome, a significant proportion of the population will continue to oppose the policies you support. And in the end those policies will prove to be failures just like the current Democratic mismanagement of cities and states. I think it was Michael Savage that said “liberalism is a mental disorder.” Obviously for some you that appears to be the case.
Flagpole wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Truly you are the worst type of crazy. Everything you hate in Trump, is you. Boy a psychiatrist would have his hands full with you.
It’s OK, Brother.
??
Man dude, you are insane.
Here are some things I dislike about Trump and then comparison to my own life:
1) Trump - Married three times and cheated on all of them. Me - Married to same woman for 31 years and never cheated on her.
2) Trump - Had Trump University and The Trump Foundation shut down because of fraud. Me - I have never had any business of mine shut down due to fraud, never so much as had an inquiry into anything I've ever done financially.
3) Trump - Said he grabbed women "by the p*ssy" without their permission. Me - I know that women don't wan theirs "grabbed", but any contact I've ever had with a woman's private parts was after their permission.
4) Trump - Due to cheating US banks, he can't get a loan from any of them. Me - I can get a loan from ANY US bank.
5) Trump - Impeached due to trying to get dirt on an opponent from a foreign country. Me - Patriotic as they come, and I never tried to get dirt on a political person from a foreign country.
6) Trump - He suggested we look into injecting disinfectants into people. Me - I know that could cause death and that it's the stupidest thing I have ever heard a politician say.
I could go on all day with these differences. Your assertion is beyond looney tunes. You really are a dumba$$. The more you say, the more stupid you reveal yourself to be. I have long said Sally was the dumbest person here. You are challenging him for that title, brother. You should shut your trap at this point. You are foolish.
I will tackle the first one. I don't have the time or the patience to tackle the rest. "You never cheated on your wife of 31 years." I would normally commend the person who was faithful to his or her spouse for 31 years. But with you your fidelity was not of your choosing. You are 5'2", bald, are as narcissistic as they come, are annoying as heck and have no game. Perhaps no woman was interested enough in you for you TO CHEAT on your wife.
Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Does this sound like a sane person or one about to go postal? Flagpole ... ease up on the MFers. A gentleman never would say that. Are you not a gentleman? Where is this anger coming from? You anger is overflowing and can't be good for you. Please seek help. We care about you here.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/I have no anger. I have no interest in being what YOU would define as a gentleman. You are not only not a gentleman, you are not a man because you gleefully berate your wife and then brag about it on the internet...just beyond the pale.
I am a facts-driven person. The fact is that you are an outrageously stupid a$$hole. Takes neither anger nor glee to say so...it's just a fact. You have proven that over and over again. You will never be able to stop being outrageously stupid, because you can't fix stupid, but you COULD stop being an a$$hole. Start with marriage counseling, apologize to your wife, hope she forgives you, stop your sinful lying and your sinful false pride, and then repent for all of your other shortcomings. You do that, then I will tell you if you are still an a$$hole or not.
Good luck, a$$hole.
Flagpole, what kind of person in a discussion forum posts a post like you just did? You don't have anger. You have RAGE. You have gone off the rails. Every one of your posts is one with the most loathsome insults of Rigged, Igy, myself or anyone else who disagrees with you. You have gone bonkers. I am serious about this. The rage you are expressing is not only very troublesome but it is violent even. What has happened to you? I do not wish to have any discussion with you at all. May god help you.
Trollminator wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Trumpers like him do not think it's "voter suppression." They believe it is "preventing voter fraud." So they think they are patriotic because they are protecting the votes of "real Americans" from the illegal votes by "intruders."
Remember, up is down and black is white with Trumpers like Igy.
I think with Iggy it’s just pure white anxiety... plus he’s a forgotten old fart angry at the world and Trump gave him a few targets to take it out on.
Trollminator,
No one really cares what you write. Look how much time you wasted today. Perhaps I can suggest, rather than spending countless hours and days in your mental masturbations to the like minded, you can actually do something concrete for minorities. It will relieve your white guilt. Try to be productive for once.
Igy
formerly present wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
You are anti-American to be posting anything from ZeroHedge. Russian propaganda site as you've been told several times. Shameful.
It's actually Bulgarian, but yeah, very pro-Russia and -Putin.
Yeah...Russian propaganda as I said.
law and order SVU wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Oh, I am a traitor now. In addition to being a racist and moron. You folks are real gems.
I only know you by your posts on this thread...not a good look.
His posts on other threads already showed he was a moron, but his posts here have revealed the depth of his stupidity, his racism, and his anti-Americanism. Shameful.
Fortunately his vote for President only counts in his backwater state of Idaho that will go to Trump anyway.
You would think that a state that is newly the king of suicides per capita would want a change.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Oh, I am a traitor now. In addition to being a racist and moron. You folks are real gems.
A traitor has to be actively traitorous. I don't believe you are that. You are just an ignorant, racist, moron. So, congrats, not a traitor, at least not based on your actions so far.
law and order SVU wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
You worse look appearing to be an unhinged crazy.
Me not worse look! Back it take!
Very nice!
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I have no anger. I have no interest in being what YOU would define as a gentleman. You are not only not a gentleman, you are not a man because you gleefully berate your wife and then brag about it on the internet...just beyond the pale.
I am a facts-driven person. The fact is that you are an outrageously stupid a$$hole. Takes neither anger nor glee to say so...it's just a fact. You have proven that over and over again. You will never be able to stop being outrageously stupid, because you can't fix stupid, but you COULD stop being an a$$hole. Start with marriage counseling, apologize to your wife, hope she forgives you, stop your sinful lying and your sinful false pride, and then repent for all of your other shortcomings. You do that, then I will tell you if you are still an a$$hole or not.
Good luck, a$$hole.
Flagpole, what kind of person in a discussion forum posts a post like you just did? You don't have anger. You have RAGE. You have gone off the rails. Every one of your posts is one with the most loathsome insults of Rigged, Igy, myself or anyone else who disagrees with you. You have gone bonkers. I am serious about this. The rage you are expressing is not only very troublesome but it is violent even. What has happened to you? I do not wish to have any discussion with you at all. May god help you.
I have no rage. I am Mr. Spock. You are just an a$$hole. Truth is truth, void of emotion. There is nothing violent in what I say at all, so stop with that. Go away, a$$hole.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
I think with Iggy it’s just pure white anxiety... plus he’s a forgotten old fart angry at the world and Trump gave him a few targets to take it out on.
Trollminator,
No one really cares what you write. Look how much time you wasted today. Perhaps I can suggest, rather than spending countless hours and days in your mental masturbations to the like minded, you can actually do something concrete for minorities. It will relieve your white guilt. Try to be productive for once.
Igy
INCORRECT! I care what Trollminator writes, so you are wrong once again...of course you are.
Stop being a racist moron.