Here’s the full clip.
Rudy was 100% tucking in his shirt
Rudy did nothing wrong in this video so some apologies are due.
https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1319497602900152320?s=21
Facts and Logic wrote:
srtrt wrote:
Can a somewhat-unbiased person (so none of the usual crew, please) who watched the debate give me her/his impression(s)? In particular, did Biden seem to be "all there" and did Trump seem more disciplined?
I'm really not interested in viewing the replay, unless the same person says it's genuinely worthwhile, but a general assessment would be a help. Thanks.
Both fared far better this time around. Contrary to what you may see around the internet the debate was moderated about as well as it could be considering the decorum on display at the previous debate.
Both candidates were far more focused. Biden still suffered from his usually occasionally stirring and mixing up a few words, but he communicated his points well enough. Trump rebounded a bit from his to common place meltdowns this year and seemed to be more composed like he was in 2016. However he still went on several of his infamous tangents and said some, interesting things...
Both of them had a few gafts, the worst was probably for Biden his unprovoked and unnecessary comment about beginning to phase out oil. It not even a fault with the policy position at all, all signs point to oil being on its last legs and a need to find new energy sources, but he said it unprovoked and in quite a blunt fashion that can easily be weaponized against him, and it might hamper his chances at an upset win in Texas. Trump's gafts have more to do with the man's modus operandi, you probably can guess a good portion of what his controversial statements were. They've become so normal at this point their hardly notable or news worthy.
Trump did not control the conversation like he did in the first debate. He still provoked Biden into answering a few of his own questions, but Biden was able to pretty effectively come up with clap backs, and was far clearly far more prepared for Trump's antics. Trump did suffer from focusing a bit to much on slandering Biden instead of laying out future policy positions. It was at its worse during the health care segment, where Trump repeatedly brought up Bernie Sanders and Biden was able to easily mock him about debating the wrong person.
There was easily enough substance there to cherry pick and make a claim for either candidate. I think all in all Biden did present himself better, but Trump's return to his brand after some shaky moments this year likely pleased his base. I doubt this debate was of much consequence for manys opinions.
I'm really not interested in viewing the replay, unless the same person says it's genuinely worthwhile, but a general assessment would be a help.
The replay is easily accessible on CSPAN's YouTube channel. I would highly recommend at least skimming through it and coming to your own conclusions. I don't thinks you'd miss much since neither candidate broke new ground. I would recommend watching the final question, since both candidates responses sum up their entire debates nicely in my opinion.
Just watched the replay. This is a great summary. I think the mic mute rule actually helped Trump a bit more because it prevented him from coming off as a poorly mannered t*rd. It basically saved him from himself somewhat. Otherwise nothing to see, except for maybe the oil comment. I assume it could have an effect on the decision of Texans who work in the industry and were on the fence before, and that could be crucial if the state contest ends up being within a 5k vote difference.
agip wrote:
Here’s the full clip.
Rudy was 100% tucking in his shirt
Rudy did nothing wrong in this video so some apologies are due.
https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1319497602900152320?s=21
Unfortunately the tuck is a distraction from the fact that he happily followed who he believed was an underage girl into the bedroom to have a drink. He's a perv and an idiot and that's why he fell for this stunt... imagine how far trained Russian and Ukrainian agents have gotten with this imbecile.
law and order SVU wrote:
Checking your watch during a traditional debate (such as this) is of no real consequence. Bush checked his watch during a town hall debate. HUGE difference.
Take home message: Trump needed a KO tonight; he didn't get it.
Indeed trump needed a KO, but we all knew there would be no such thing. I'm pretty sure even thought it would be a small victory if he could just survive in the ring. The October surprise didn't work and compared to 2016 a much smaller chunk of the electorate remains undecided. The only option left is full blown criminal cheating which I have been saying will come.
So after all this...…
Will we ever see Trump's comprehensive healthcare plan that covers pre-existing conditions?
I think many people are curious to actually see Trump's healthcare plan. It is kind of an important issue while we are in a pandemic and there are a lot of unemployed people.
My favorite trump line was “I take full responsibility. It’s not my fault it came here. It’s China’s fault.”
He really lucked out with the mic mute, but my the endless whining and long-winded gibberish. I'm glad this is over.
mind numb too many choices wrote:
So after all this...…
Will we ever see Trump's comprehensive healthcare plan that covers pre-existing conditions?
I think many people are curious to actually see Trump's healthcare plan. It is kind of an important issue while we are in a pandemic and there are a lot of unemployed people.
Trump said he'll unveil it after...
I don't think Biden hammered him on this enough. It was one of trump's biggest campaign promises and the GOP had full control for the first two years, so they could have easily eliminated it... he said dozens of times there would be a full and clean repeal. Never happened and there is no excuse. Biden also should have hit him on trying to rebrand Obamacare as some better trump version of it. That was an insane comment when trump said they got rid of the worst part of it and now it's not Obamacare and much better.
Biden mucked up on the fracking question. But that's about the only stumble he made last night. Trump was finally closer to something resembling a President, but jesus the man can lie. He doesn't even care that he's lies. Incredible to watch him either mix up his facts or make them up as he goes.
Still waiting to hear about his health care plan. Trump fanboys, what does his healthcare plan look like?
71,000 cases yesterday and over 1000 deaths......deaths finally going up. The lag happens because people don't die of COVID overnight. And this dummy has the nerve to still say we are rounding a corner? It will go away? Amazing,
agip wrote:
Here’s the full clip.
Rudy was 100% tucking in his shirt
Rudy did nothing wrong in this video so some apologies are due.
Rudy is owed an apology? So, this is acceptable behavior? Wonder how this would look had it been Biden laying on that bed........
So, yeah, he's a man. And most men would try to get it on with an attractive young woman. But, in this particular case this is incredibly unprofessional and since he's VERY close to the President this is also incredibly careless and dangerous.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
The moment that Dementia Joe lost PA and sealed his fate. He was never winning TX either.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1319467866194935809It's OVER libs.
Enjoy your loss.
Do you think Pennsylvanians favor more pollution?
Do you think Pennsylvanians favor special tax breaks for oil companies?
Pennsylvanians understand that a vote for president antichrist means more pollution and more taxpayer dollars flowing to big oil.
He's not as smart as he seems .......
CircusClowns wrote:
71,000 cases yesterday and over 1000 deaths......deaths finally going up. The lag happens because people don't die of COVID overnight. And this dummy has the nerve to still say we are rounding a corner? It will go away? Amazing,
Yesterday was the fourth-highest day ever for new cases.
Nobody is buying that it's because of more testing.
It's because this president is not a leader.
Flagpole wrote:
Interesting things from undecided voters on CNN.
11 of them
7 of them now know who to vote for, and they all are going to vote for Biden.
1 guy who was undecided said he was Pro Life and that he was going to see if Barrett gets confirmed. If she DOES, he's going to vote for BIDEN because he thinks he is a better leader, but if she is not confirmed, he's going to vote for Trump. VERY INTERESTING.
This was totally misplayed by Trump because he listened to McConnell.
Trump should have announced that if he was re-elected he would nominate Barrett.
Give an incentive for conservative never Trumpers to vote for him.
McConnell is jamming this through because he expects Trump to lose.
mind numb too many choices wrote:
So after all this...…
Will we ever see Trump's comprehensive healthcare plan that covers pre-existing conditions?
I think many people are curious to actually see Trump's healthcare plan. It is kind of an important issue while we are in a pandemic and there are a lot of unemployed people.
He has been executing his healthcare plan the whole time.
Do nothing.
If you have money or are healthy or have access to a personal helicopter that will take you to the hospital at a moment’s notice, you will be fine.
Fat hurts wrote:
Do you think Pennsylvanians favor more pollution?
Do you think Pennsylvanians favor special tax breaks for oil companies?
Pennsylvanians understand that a vote for president antichrist means more pollution and more taxpayer dollars flowing to big oil.
In rural central Pennsylvania mineral rights leases and jobs directly or indirectly associated fracking have been an enormously big deal over the past decade. This makes it easy for them to rationalize away the downside to fracking. It's very hard to make people look beyond their short term self interest which is the fundamental challenge to making progress on climate change.
mind numb too many choices wrote:
So after all this...…
Will we ever see Trump's comprehensive healthcare plan that covers pre-existing conditions?
I think many people are curious to actually see Trump's healthcare plan. It is kind of an important issue while we are in a pandemic and there are a lot of unemployed people.
Locally we had the HR debate last night as well. The Republican candidate (who held the office Trump's first 2 years) stated that they'd voted in favor of some bill protecting pre-existing conditions. My thought was this person was either shading the truth or the party did a remarkably poor job of publicizing their actions on this front when they held office.
More than anything else about the Trump administration, it bothers me that there isn't any clearly articulated vision for the country, it's sloganeering and grievances all the way down.
Ya. WTF Agip... you watched that and your interpretation was "Rudy did nothing wrong!"?
I am not sure we are living on the same planet dude. Probably not worth continuing the conversation.
Looks to me like a lecherous old man who put himself into a compromising position with what was supposed to be a young girl. It honestly reminded me of a "to catch a predator" episode or something.