Coevett wrote:
The guy who got silver behind Mo in London 2012 was on paper a fast guy but clearly couldn't do it at London, just like the bronze medallist, and never won a major championship, unlike Cram who was the world champion when Coe beat him.
Yeah it’s the damndest thing.....these guys never won a major championship because some guy won them all starting with the 5000m in 2011 until he got 2nd in the 5000m in 2017.
george oscar bluth wrote:
Deanouk wrote:
And there are more than twice as many opportunities to win global medals now than there was in the early 80’s or before.
Career from 1970 - 1980- 3 opportunities to win a global championship (3Olympics);
Career from 2000 -2010 - 14 opportunities to win global championships ( 6 world indoor, 3 Olympics, 5 outdoor World Champs.
So your point is moot and shows a lack of understanding of the history of the sport.
To claim that global championship medals are moot in this comparison shows your lack of understanding of the history of the sport.
I’m well aware that there are more opportunities now. Are you well aware that Farah has more than twice as many golds/medals as Coe? Don’t you think having more global championships results in fewer opportunities to chase times?
No! Coe ran many more track races per season than Farah did. Mo ran very sparingly and had the opportunity to run 1 or 2 time trials each summer after major Champs; yet he failed to attempt any. This suggests he wasn’t capable of breaking any world records.
george oscar bluth wrote:
Deanouk wrote:
Now you’ve changed the goalposts! You originally claimed a 3:31 was inferior to a 12:49. Now you’re using 3:33.
A 12:49 5k fun today would be more impressive than a 3:31, but set in context, a 3:31.13 1500m in 1986, when the WR was 3:29.46, is more impressive (in percentage terms) than a 12:49 5000m, when the WR is 12:37.
It would be equivalent to a 12:43.
In fact Abascal’s pb at the end of the 83 season, 3:33.1, when the WR was 3:30.77, is worth 12:45 when compared to the 5000m Wr in percentage terms.
Abascal’s PR when he won bronze was 3:33 and Straub’s PR when he won silver was 3:33. When Abascal ran his 3:31 it wasn’t 12th all time. So Coevett failed in trying to point to Longosiwa as an argument for weak competitors.
No, that’s right. When Abascal ran 3:31.13 it made him the 7th fastest man ever at the distance; behind Aouita, Cram, Coe, Maree, Ovett and Gonzales. That I think you’ll find is better than 12th fastest. So Coevett actually used a good example that proved his argument correct.