Genzebe Dibaba 3:55.17 indoor WR

fred wrote:

Weldon, I didn't know what any these drugs were until I

started posting here again in August.

If all these talented women went on GW-50, AICAR, igf-l r3,

and hematide, they would all be running 3:55.

If you can run a WR, take a 20 second rest and run an

accelerated warmdown lap without breathing hard, the sport

is long gone.

This is total bullocks.

Interesting that - according to the (old man)^3 - geb has chesed himself. There also seems to be a problem with the negations in his statement. Geb probably was capable, I think he want's to say.

In any way: good luck to all the people who still hope they will get an apology or something like that from him when he is - as so often - wrong on something.

ventolin^3 wrote:

Peer Mediator wrote:LOL. Of course he'll just say that based on X, Y, Z, his abacus proves that Geb would have run 3:28 outdoors if he'd made the effort

fool

i'm the only guy in on the planet who called

mo 3'28

only a complete idiot coudn't believe geb was incapable of sub-3'30 outdoors when chasing geb to the wr in '97 or in his 3'31i shape in '98

]

Nope. You're still wrong. You asked us to name one. That's all. It's not very complicated.

If he coulda run faster outdoors he woulda.

Don't try to 3:24/1:39 us.

J.R. wrote:

fred wrote:

Weldon, I didn't know what any these drugs were until I

started posting here again in August.

If all these talented women went on GW-50, AICAR, igf-l r3,

and hematide, they would all be running 3:55.

If you can run a WR, take a 20 second rest and run an

accelerated warmdown lap without breathing hard, the sport

is long gone.

This is total bullocks.

The fairytale you live in is total bullocks.

said88 wrote:It seems to me that she has little bit better potential than this 3:55

you again offer nonsense

she was maybe outside top-5 1500 global talent 'til now

even a fool woud know that last 700 at

3'47+ !!!

pace

is pretty much guaranteed to threaten 3'50 outdoors

it may even dream of getting somewhere close to the same universe as

Ryun - Dusseldorf ?!

but I also think it was a pretty good performence for her and there's also an good probability that she will never ran faster (or just by some small margin). We will see. Still a VERY long way to 3:50,46...

i already said her bigger/better sista off

55.0 /14'10 ->

3'51.76

give us account of Ryun's last 400, having been impeded by bodo & i'll arrange to get you

999 days

free access to the software which called

mo-3'28

( for any previous subscriber :

subscribe with a different e-mail ( can use same pasword )

it's £1.00 for 999 days )

please :

no sh!tkickers apply

it is offer for

said88

+

known ex-subscribers

ventolin^3 wrote:

haven't look at vid carefully, but off crawling pace to 800 ( for a 3'55 ), then evenning out splits & 2 - 3s for quicker outdoor tracks, she currently has to be currently in outdoor shape of

~ 3'49

Ventolin, do you really give 2-3s in a 1500i vs outdoor.

Do you think that Rupp was capable of 3:47-3:48 when he ran his 3:50i last year?

You must then think he was a 3:27-3:28 guy last year???

You really are challenged aren't you!

Just because Rupp & Farah train together does not mean they are the same athlete! Are you really so ignorant to suggest that because Farah has run 3:28.8 that Rupp is capable of the same?

Nonsense.

watchman wrote:

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL_mRBl8LVA

Doesn't even look tired... is this the face of the new endurance drug?

Perhaps. Or maybe simply blood-doping.

I agree with you, Peer Mediator. But this ventolin guy is a hopeless case. He's like one of those people who tries to "win" a debate by just raising his voice and calling his opponent an idiot. No matter how convincingly he's shown to be wrong, he'll just keep blathering away.

ventolin^3 wrote:

Peer Mediator wrote:LOL. Of course he'll just say that based on X, Y, Z, his abacus proves that Geb would have run 3:28 outdoors if he'd made the effort

fool

i'm the only guy in on the planet who called

mo 3'28

only a complete idiot coudn't believe geb was incapable of sub-3'30 outdoors when chasing geb to the wr in '97 or in his 3'31i shape in '98

You can't win with a 'special' person like him, who is always making excuses for any facts others offer to refute his fantasies.

i'm

"special"

because i called some previous times

i hope some more

"special"

because i said women's 1500 are p!ss weak & older diby couda run off 5k-14'10+ training :

3'52

Wow! Your arrogance knows no bounds does it? You keep harping on about predicting Farah's 3:28 don't you. I mean, even a broke clock tells the right time twice a day! 1 out of a hundred is a p*ss poor strike rate.

Don't get too drunk will you. And be careful not to take your meds at the same time. LOL.

SMJO wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

fool

i'm the only guy in on the planet who called

mo 3'28

only a complete idiot coudn't believe geb was incapable of sub-3'30 outdoors when chasing geb to the wr in '97 or in his 3'31i shape in '98

]

Nope. You're still wrong. You asked us to name one. That's all. It's not very complicated.

If he coulda run faster outdoors he woulda.

Don't try to 3:24/1:39 us.

No offense, but that line is pretty dumb. If he was focusing on 5000/10000 there is certainly no guarantee he would raced a 1500.

Moreover, to run faster you have to get in a good fast race (unless you are threatening WRs and arranging meets/pacers for it) which is often a difficult thing to have come together correctly.

I do agree though that you're being a bit ridiculous in your argument V3, in that you asked people to name someome that had faster indoor pb than outdoor pb. You did not say were referring to intrinsic value or the athletes worth. You asked specifically for athletes that had run faster indoor than outdoor. A few names do exist, and they were given.

It's unreasonable to reject those and say they were wrong, as the people gave you EXACTLY what you asked for. More reasonable would have been for you to clarify exactly what you were looking for which seems to be athletes who at similar stages in their career ran faster indoor than outdoor; assuming both races had comparable pacing.

Drug user but nobody cares--especially the idiots that consistently post on this stupid forum.

Peer Mediator wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

fool

i'm the only guy in on the planet who called

mo 3'28

only a complete idiot coudn't believe geb was incapable of sub-3'30 outdoors when chasing geb to the wr in '97 or in his 3'31i shape in '98

i'm

"special"

because i called some previous times

i hope some more

"special"

because i said women's 1500 are p!ss weak & older diby couda run off 5k-14'10+ training :

3'52

Wow! Your arrogance knows no bounds does it? You keep harping on about predicting Farah's 3:28 don't you. I mean, even a broke clock tells the right time twice a day! 1 out of a hundred is a p*ss poor strike rate.

Don't get too drunk will you. And be careful not to take your meds at the same time. LOL.

For what it's worth, I think his calculator gives some pretty damn good values. He called Mo's 3:28, has said before women's 1500 was due for some faster times, was correct that most good guys running 5000 now can still run 12:4x with a good fast race, the list goes on. Their is lots of evidence that his calculator is pretty damn good

I think issues arise with the conversions and adjustments V3 makes to the race in an effort to think about the optimum result.

People also don't take into account that predictions are generally for a perfect race as well and that happens very, very rarely. So, people here something like Rupp running 12:40 and immediately think no way...but the odds of a perfect race are really low. A more realistic result to expect from Rupp is something like 12:4x mid or high, and I have little reason to doubt Rupp is capable of running such a time.

rupp-certified conversion wrote:Ventolin, do you really give 2-3s in a 1500i vs outdoor

nearer

3s

Do you think that Rupp was capable of 3:47-3:48 when he ran his 3:50i last year?

his "chump" ran

3'28.8

( virtually certainly a 3'27+ if that had been a tt geared for him

mo got no pacing, as it all up front for asbel with a wild 53+ 1st

mo couda run 3'27+ if he had that race set up for him with 55-high "tight" to bell )

You must then think he was a 3:27-3:28 guy last year???

for mo

( & i can't offer a denigatory time for a far superior physical specimen in rupp )

3'27-mid/high

LM wrote:

No offense, but that line is pretty dumb. .

Perhaps you didn't realize that I was just "ventolating" when I wrote that line.

However Geb had a fair number of chances to equal his indoor best and never did. His indoor and outdoor 3k best times are just a second apart.

What was the race like when he ran his indoor PB for 1500?

Was it perfect?

DRUGS!!!

Peer Mediator wrote:You really are challenged aren't you!

Just because Rupp & Farah train together does not mean they are the same athlete! Are you really so ignorant to suggest that because Farah has run 3:28.8 that Rupp is capable of the same?

Nonsense.

fool

sal brought in an

ole beat-up stayer

to "train-up" his

prize-triple crown-colt

he didn't realise that the "ole-beat-up stayer" had dreams of :

So what about Geb being faster indoors over 1500?

LM wrote:

Their is lots of evidence that his calculator is pretty damn good

Don't forget it works for swimmers and horsies, too.

Once again another thread derailed by ventolin and his bloviating ego.