"The fastest people I know all have these three things in common: ..., ..., ..."

pancake 2 wrote:

Okay, here you go:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/consequences/http://digilib.bc.edu/reserves/py447/aver/py44722.pdf

neither of those have anything to do with your point. or did i miss something?

tell me in your own words WHY, not just what you found in research papers

Okay, honestly I have no clue what you're looking for. You asked me a a question that wasn't really related to my point, but I tried to answer it anyway.

Please spell out carefully what exactly it is that I need to prove to you.

1. They train hard

2. They run relaxed, even when they are flying

3. They get to the starting line planning on the win

how was it not related to your point? i thought that i asked why drugs would be harmful to a runners performance and/or training

those papers said nothing about that.

one was about the psychology of drug users vs abstainers

the other was essentially a PSA about the effects of drugs on adolescents

You are one of those idiotic frat bros who still thinks its cool to do drugs and still rationalizing with yourself that it has no detrimental effect because you think the identity you have in it is awesome. If you literally need to ask why drugs would hinder training and or performance in everyday life, and aren't falling into the aforementioned category, then you are simply stupid and fall under the category of lack of common sense combined with poor brain genetics and should go read a book or look at every day life. The probability of you being in either of these categories is 1. Choose one.

1) patient- focused on the long term 2)relentless- would run 13 miles on an indoor track when it snowed to prove a point 3)- started cross when soccer didn't work out.

they live in portland, or

they are coached by jerry schumacher

they are sponsored by nike

Don't visit or post on LRC

Run a ton of quality miles

Have a coach

pancake 2 wrote:

I would say there is an inverse correlation between partying/drinking/smoking and intelligence.

Real AHole wrote:

Science proves you wrong on this one. People with high IQs are far more likely to drink and smoke wee.

Pancake is right.

Of course no one who is intelligent would smoke, or do anything else harmful to themselves, or to others.

Intelligent people know this, and don't need the crutch of science to tell them how to think.

Shut Up Already wrote:

You are one of those idiotic frat bros who still thinks its cool to do drugs and still rationalizing with yourself that it has no detrimental effect because you think the identity you have in it is awesome. If you literally need to ask why drugs would hinder training and or performance in everyday life, and aren't falling into the aforementioned category, then you are simply stupid and fall under the category of lack of common sense combined with poor brain genetics and should go read a book or look at every day life. The probability of you being in either of these categories is 1. Choose one.

I've actually never used any type of recreational drug in my life. I always hear people say that drinking and drugs are bad for your running/performance, but I've seen plenty of people run just fine who use drugs.

So that's why I'm asking why you would expect drugs to affect performance. How much use, and in what ways will it affect performance?

I don't understand what the big deal is. Why can't you just answer the question instead of typing that big ol' paragraph?

1. Willingness to win (I believe it's the number one factor)

2. Natural athletes (They could hop in a soccer or basketball game and not be the uncoordinated one on their team. Flexibility, power, coordination, endurance, etc...)

3. Adaptability

And as for the drugs debate... I believe the use can hurt you, but it's rather the abuse. Sure, smoking any material will harm your lungs. But one cigarette will not, in the long run, be a detriment. It's the pack-a-day that takes a toll. Repeated nights of missed sleep, smoking a lot, or doing things while you're under the influence is more detrimental than the drugs themselves.

That being said, amphetamine can help race performance, as can caffeine. So there's that...

Love skinny legs wrote:

And as for the drugs debate... I believe the use can hurt you, but it's rather the abuse. Sure, smoking any material will harm your lungs. But one cigarette will not, in the long run, be a detriment. It's the pack-a-day that takes a toll. Repeated nights of missed sleep, smoking a lot, or doing things while you're under the influence is more detrimental than the drugs themselves.

This. This is the point I'm trying to make. I'm not sure why some people are having such a hard time with it...

I'm curious why you say abstaining from caffeine is a factor for good runners. Caffeine can actually be seen as an ergonomic aid and can actually greatly INCREASE performance if done correctly and in proper dosages. BTW I eat lots of junk food.

1. are 100 percent in or 100 percent out

2. drink alcoholic beverages

3. have religious faith

pancake 2 wrote:

This. This is the point I'm trying to make. I'm not sure why some people are having such a hard time with it...

because you never said it. unless i missed it

1. Male

2. Under the age of 30

3. Black

Have fun with the sport.

Are confident in their abilities

Deal with injuries in a smart way.

they go out hard

then pick it up in the middle

and then kick it in

that makes three things

BMI 20 or under

Waist - 32 or below

Good power to weight ratio

You will not find any world class runner in distance with more than a 21 BMI or larger than a 32 inch waist. Average BMI for world class would be around 19 - 19.5.

Having a fairly short torso is also a big advantage in distance running - think Aouita, Morceli, and most Kenyans.

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