OK, my mistake.
Ashmeade did run 19.95 in May.
But my point is that they should check the distance.
Anyone with the video should check the steps each runner took and compare with their earlier runs. If all of them took one step less to finish. Then the distance is certainly in doubt.
perhaps we've just started to see the next phase of human evolution.
400m lap is fixed. But 200m line could be mistakenly drawn at the wrong place. Although this rarely happen. But with stunning result like this, they really should double check the distance.
Fun and joke aside. This has been an entertaining discourse.
Although we are both western nations it's clear that we have very different cultures and different viewpoint on sports and honesty in sports.We don't only frown on drug cheat. They wouldn't be able to switch to the WNBA.They would have to freaking hide....
Our best athletes RUN which explain why we have regressed in football/soccer since being the first English speaking country qualify for the World Cup.We have the best high school track meet in the world which everyone watches. You don't know competition until you've seen that.
It also explains why cricket, now our third most popular sport has declined to the point where we have gone from invincible world champions to eighth out of 10 nations.(Wikipedia can help you to understand some of this).
Using some economic theory....the fact that everyone wants to sprint in Jamaica is akin to specialisation.We are just enhancing the natural comparative advantage.
The fact you that you seriously believe that Yohan who wouldn't even cheat on a test at Jago is part of the most widespread and high-tech doping program of all time. This would even eclipse the East Germans and the U.S.A/BALCO eras.
The fact that you think that the 'scientists' at UWI could be behind this is laughable when we don't even have proper public hospitals(I have been hospitalised in more than one).
The fact that Racers and MVP could conspire on this when they are rivals is even crazier.Unless this is a government funded thing and Jamaica who cannot even pass IMF tests is siphoning funds into winning medals in sports(?????)
Really?I hope there are no hard feelings over this. If we are true fans we surely can have a better eye on finding cheats. Blake is tiny to run that fast but it's okay for overweight Dix and scrawny white boy Lemaitre do do so.
It's okay to put up progressions for Yohan as evidence with times he did at 15 years old at a poor high school. Ever thought that better nutrition=more muscles, better coaching=faster times. no school=total devotion to the sport...poor upbringing=major motivation.
Do you think people who have doped from Jamaica are welcome here? Mullings knows to stay far,far away with Tyson Gay....
Anyway I love your country.You have given me the Top Chef franchise of which I am about to watch some episode(albeit just desserts lol). You are responsible for movies like Memento, The Usual Suspects,American Beauty, American History X etc. I love MY COUNTRY more.......Peace!!Off to Gail Simmons......
VoR wrote:He looked very surprised to me.To me as well. As he crosses the line he's checking the clock, looks v surprised, then he sort of tries to hide it afterwards but he's still lit up.
Do you think Uceny and Rupp are on the same stuff?
NYRun1 wrote:
The medical division of the University of the West Indies is also based in Jamaica
whats the purpose of stating this fact.
Bam! wrote:
I love the crap about Jamaica not having access to drugs "because it is a poor third-world country".
When guys are raking in big prize money, there is plenty to go around. If I'm a German pharmacist, I'm seeing that, and looking around my crummy lab in Dresden, where more than half my wage goes to taxes.
If the Bolt camp is so poor, how is it that Bolt managed to be driving a Beemer when he crashed?
so why is this German pharmacist that providing this super drug to the rich first world sprinters, why only sell it to Jamaicans/caribbean sprinters.
I hope the coach or those involved go on to try cure cancer.
I just have an uneasy feeling that we didn't just see an event that ranks with the extinction of the dinosaurs and the rise of humanity.
One guy runs it, ok, but then another, and tiny person at that.
I smell a child proof cap
Jamming wrote:
Bam! wrote:I love the crap about Jamaica not having access to drugs "because it is a poor third-world country".
When guys are raking in big prize money, there is plenty to go around. If I'm a German pharmacist, I'm seeing that, and looking around my crummy lab in Dresden, where more than half my wage goes to taxes.
If the Bolt camp is so poor, how is it that Bolt managed to be driving a Beemer when he crashed?
so why is this German pharmacist that providing this super drug to the rich first world sprinters, why only sell it to Jamaicans/caribbean sprinters.
He doesn't. He sells to the Americans too, but they're the good guys so they obviously don't buy. Duh.
I hear you. Same way I felt when I heard a white guy had broken 10 seconds for 100m and 20 seconds for 200m. And then today Rupp finished ahead of several Africans and sets an Amercian record. Not to mention Uceny. Hmmm....
llemy wrote:
"First, it is a climate or temperature thing," Bailey says. "It is also natural [food] stuff. What we North Americans think of as organic food and meats -- that is normal for them. You got water coming out of the sea. Nothing is mass-produced."
Oh! So the secret to running really fast is drinking salt water.
ventolin^3 wrote:
brussells is widest track on circuit i believe
it is 125m curve/75m straight compared to most being 116m/84m
it is closer to running like a straight line than other tracks
perhaps this offers a tenth or so for the 200 guys where rotational forces are big part of the equation
If he's right, then maybe this has something to do with how fast they ran.
If we have learned anything when it comes to doping over the last several decades, it's that where there is smoke, there's fire!
Come on, people. How many times do we have to see eye-popping, absurd, paradigm shifting performances that later prove to be drug enhanced?
We're supposed to believe that Jamaica, perennially strong in the sprints but not dominant, just happens to have gotten their act together and now are re-writing all of the sprint records, including relays, and have not one, but TWO guys who have run sub-19:30 in the 200m? I call bullsh*t!
you will never win wrote:
He doesn't. He sells to the Americans too, but they're the good guys so they obviously don't buy. Duh.
Some people are just super-responders to drugs. Look at bodybuilding, where everyone is using every possible drug but not reaching the same size. Could be that some people just respond better to the drugs.
Don't know if it's been said yet but Blakes reaction time of .269, if cleaned up like the others at 0.19 would mean he would have equaled the world record. WOW
Selassie I know the Beast has freaking landed and the world is in shock. hahahahahahahahaa Didn't you hear he was pushing Bolt in training?
Ok, I'll be honest the Beast shocked the hell out of us with that run today, not even Coach Mills nor Bolt saw that coming.
Bam! wrote:
I love the crap about Jamaica not having access to drugs "because it is a poor third-world country".
When guys are raking in big prize money, there is plenty to go around. If I'm a German pharmacist, I'm seeing that, and looking around my crummy lab in Dresden, where more than half my wage goes to taxes.
If the Bolt camp is so poor, how is it that Bolt managed to be driving a Beemer when he crashed?
There are thousands of "Beemers" being driven around in Jamaica, what a stupid point. In his case, his BMW was a gift from Puma.
Every country has drugs, the point is that Jamaica does not have the market cornered on PED usage and Jamaica does not have a glut of superior scientists who are able to outdo the rest of the world, most notably, the king of doping - USA.
Blake was busted for having a drug in his system which was considered to be of a recreational nature. He could have gotten off with it, but it was the Jamaican anti-doping commission who decided to make an example out of him.
Blake claimed that he took a sexual enhancement drug and the substance found in his system supports that. Anyone that knows Jamaica and it's culture, knows that there are hundreds of supposed aphrodisiacs on the market - whether they be simple natural drinks such as peanut punch, Irish moss, etc., to viagra and everything in between. These are taken by healthy men just to boost their reputation in the bedroom so the women won't "talk bad" about them. It's all about vanity.
I'm not saying it can't happen there, it can happen anywhere but Jamaica is going to be kicking ass in Sprints for a VERY long time because they are doing it naturally for the much greater part.
okay now I won't call him Usain Bolt's little brother again. What the feck!
notkosher wrote:
I hear you. Same way I felt when I heard a white guy had broken 10 seconds for 100m and 20 seconds for 200m. And then today Rupp finished ahead of several Africans and sets an Amercian record. Not to mention Uceny. Hmmm....
Obviously the track was short today. I bet they call in the Chinese to bulldoze it tomorrow.