The St. Pierres have issued a statement stating all workers were hired legally:
"On April 21, U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents detained several of our employees. We do not know the details or reasons at this time. We have cooperated fully with their instructions.
"Our employees were hired following the federal and state employment requirements. We remain supportive of our employees and appreciative of the valuable role they play in our community, performing essential work on our farm.
"We hope this matter is resolved quickly. Any other questions will need to be directed to US Customs and Border agents."
https://www.mynbc5.com/article...
Moving forward, you need to be a registered user to post on this thread as clearly this is a controversial topic which really has our visitors energized.
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nysouthrunner wrote:
Interesting. I was working on a farm in upstate ny about 5 years ago that employed many immigrant workers, their legal status unclear to me, many struggling with english, etc. Anyway, they were great workers. Any time I had to do a job with them, I knew I was in for 8 hours of straight grinding, whereas by myself, I could take my time a bit more. I was on minimum wage, but I think most of them were making 18+. Really a great way for them to make money and send some back to their families in Mexico, etc. It is kinda funny that Elle is a Trump fan. Wonder what she thinks about this.
Too late. Election has consequences. Things will only get worse when 11 million illegals are deported to El Salvador, Trump starts collecting 250% tariffs on everything imported, and the cabinet members are fired along with the court judges and college professors. Promise was made, promise must be kept.
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Lawsuit was filed by the state in January 2020; I assume it has been decided by now. Anyone know the result?
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Jogger262 wrote:
not so fast, buddy wrote:
but I bet you watch Fox News, right?
I don’t watch any cable news. Yahoo Finance is my main news source, and they are definitely not right leaning.
Occasionally I’ll watch a few minutes of my local news in the morning before work.
LRC is my main news source.
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So we have migrant workers with cheese surnames. She was at Presidents ville. Its all part of the theatre.
I've worked it out human beings are partly living inside stories in their mind. Not in reality.
This is said to be downstream from what a guy calls the Sacred Fracture. We live in reality only partly due to our symbolic prism, a kind of spiritual armour. This is why death for us is much more shocking. And life itself is a question to be answered.
Right now that internal world is being demolished because for many the news provides a geography of the mind. And the news is breaking down as a unity.
Its amazing when you finally work it out. It explains so much.
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Amazing all the Trump humpers that are excited about groceries becoming even more expensive.
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a farmer wrote:
no article says they are illegal yet.
That’s why some fled, ran away and escaped.
Others were arrested. I think we can safely assume that ones that fled weren’t working legally with a visa.
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Vermonster of VT wrote:
TheGreatDunbar wrote:
Source:"Operating since 1986, Pleasant Valley milks over 3,000 cows across 10,000 acres. The farm is owned and operated by Mark and Amanda St. Pierre, with their son Jamie St. Pierre who is also involved in management and is married to Vermont Olympic runner Elle St. Pierre."
I grew up in Enosburg Falls, VT not far away from the St. Pierre farm. When I was there the area was all family own farms, but the St. Pierre’s started increasing their operation and putting all the small farmers out of business. They then started buying up all the farms, turned all the dairy cattle from free ranging to full time in barns, and left everyone without work. My family fixed farm equipment and when we went from 40 farms in the area to 3 we went under too. Never really cared for the St. Pierre’s who changed the way of life in the area.
Realizing that ESP actually runs a horrible factory farm and not a small free range operation completely changed my impression of her
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Trumps coming for ya wrote:
Looks like the USA has the same problem as the UK - unscrupulous employers using migrants like slave labour. Fine them millions and get American citizens into the jobs. Don't like it, then shut down your business.
Practice what you preach. You wouldn't last a 8 hour shift milking and that's with automatic walk through system. Especially when its hot as a oven and cold as a freezer.
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Niels wrote:
Honest question wrote:
Honest question - how can you be a T voter without supporting the MA6A agenda?
Because Kamala was the alternative?
Lol. Your brain is rotted if you think that's a reasonable answer.
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dangerous speech wrote:
The colonial St Pierres wrote:
Yes she is, 100%, which makes this all the more hilarious. Yeah, laughing at people when they are down isn't very nice but I've adopted the when they go low, we go lower policy. She's so racist I'm surprised she would tolerate migrants working for her, but then again, I'm not surprised at all.
Not a MAGA:
Achieving a dream to visit the white house and shake the presidents hand as an Olympian says nothing of ones political persuasion. She went and was respectful, as one would expect, she met the president and she cherishes the achievement and the moment as one would expect sane people to do. She still voted for Trump, 100%. She may not display all the characteristics of the typical MAGAt, but if you voted for Trump you are one, and she is one. Are you so dumb that you think these members of the Ohio State football team all voted for Trump?224 -
Nonsense! wrote:
Achieving a dream to visit the white house and shake the presidents hand as an Olympian says nothing of ones political persuasion. She went and was respectful, as one would expect, she met the president and she cherishes the achievement and the moment as one would expect sane people to do. She still voted for Trump, 100%. She may not display all the characteristics of the typical MAGAt, but if you voted for Trump you are one, and she is one. Are you so dumb that you think these members of the Ohio State football team all voted for Trump?Where did you see her ballot? Is it available online somewhere? Can I view the ballots of other runners and celebrities?
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Jogger262 wrote:
I gotta say, as a non-MA6A Trump voter, I don’t like targeting migrants working on a farm. They are doing work that nobody wants to do at that wage.
You aren't better than all the other nazis just because you are a self-professed "non-ma6a trump voter." You voted for this. Own it.
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Keeping It Real wrote:
bhah wrote:
Nope, no comparison. There is free will in migrant labor. They can quit and go back home anytime.
I agree!
That is what women should do if they find they are not getting equal pay for the same job as a man is getting paid!
They can quit and get another job if they don't like it! You know, free will!
Sounds like you accept you were wrong and don’t disagree with anything I actually said.
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Migrants Steal Hard Labor Jobs From American Children wrote:
Isn't Purrier - St Pierre MAGA? All these fckn hypocrite farmers hiring migrants and voting Trump. Enjoy the tariffs, suckers!
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Did you read the artcile wrote:
a farmer wrote:
no article says they are illegal yet.
That’s why some fled, ran away and escaped.
Others were arrested. I think we can safely assume that ones that fled weren’t working legally with a visa.
We can't assume that at all. ICE will arrest and detain first and then ask questions later - or maybe not.
There are a number of people who have been detained and/or deported who were here legally.
If I were a seasonal agricultural worker with a Hispanic surname I would probably flee too, even if all my papers were in order.
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Nonsense! wrote:
dangerous speech wrote:
Not a MAGA:
Achieving a dream to visit the white house and shake the presidents hand as an Olympian says nothing of ones political persuasion. She went and was respectful, as one would expect, she met the president and she cherishes the achievement and the moment as one would expect sane people to do. She still voted for Trump, 100%. She may not display all the characteristics of the typical MAGAt, but if you voted for Trump you are one, and she is one. Are you so dumb that you think these members of the Ohio State football team all voted for Trump?Oh, give it up already. She didn't just show up, she made an long Instagram post about it, she spoke glowingly of meeting Biden, and she posted a picture of Biden and Jill and Kamala. When she was in Paris she posted lots of pics of her hanging out with Hiltz, she would have avoided that if she was full-on MAGA like you guys keep claiming.
I think she's either somewhat apolitical or just tries to mostly keep it out of her social media to avoid offending any fans. But I've seen absolutely zero evidence of her ever supporting Trump, so stop coming on here and claiming you somehow know with 100% certainty she's a Trump voter.
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I don't know what her politics were. Did she say something anti Trump that brought this on? I thought Trump was going to give farms a pass. So is this another of Trump's inconsistencies? Or maybe the pass only applies in red states no matter what the politics of the farmer.
Anyway, I hope she can find time to train after milking her share of 3000 cows, doing the books, and breast feeding her baby. Or maybe they use cows milk... Would love to see her back at the front of the pack.
Wonder if her politics are changed now?
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