climate change is about whether people notice details. it's warm in the summer. but it's now 5-10F hotter for both the low and high here. the storms show up nastier, last deeper inland, have bigger windfields (the nasty part is wider), dump amazing amounts of rain.
the guy claiming this is just some cycle has obviously never spent an afternoon looking at NWS climate data for where they live from prior decades as far back as the late 1800s.
for a fall storm the increasing breeze is often pleasant the day before. my wife and i once ate on the patio of a restaurant the day before a hurricane hit.
the next day you are getting windblown rain around your windows, your gutter is down, and tree limbs are all in your yard.
don't get the 2 confused.
A fluffy (high cat) hurricane is a bit worse than that. You've prob seen 1 or 2 cat hurricanes. When these things get the zoomies, the power is out, the roads are underwater. Heck houses might flood in low lying areas.
we aren't right at the coast. historically they would lose a little oomph before here. the one this year was unusual in how it didn't seem to degrade until well inland. probably because it has 100F temperature fuel in summers now.
but, i get it, when we go visit the coast some restaurants have water markers from how high the surge got for hurricanes, along the side of the building itself. like going up the whole first floor.
Sure, and we're to believe that you're the educated one who drinks the Kool aid that they serve every chance he gets;)
Uh, lots of people are overly credulous and can fall prey to the hive mind, educated or not, but there’s seldom any real critical thinking applied when people launch into attacks on the nefarious and shadowy “they”/“them.” Not sure where you personally stand on this, but that gets especially wild coming from people who believe Trump generally (no, he’s not always lying and not always wrong), who often disparage education (and not just identity-based college departments), and who deride experts precisely because they’re experts.
Most educated people know that there’s relatively little consensus among the experts on any issue and that deciding to rely on expert opinion doesn’t entail automatically accepting what someone says without question. There’s a process of seeking out reasonable points of disagreement and weighing options. You can believe that the best sources of information will be experts without believing that every expert is unfailingly right.
Since your “drinking Kool Aid” comment presumably refers to the pandemic, I suppose that if someone largely followed public health officials suggestions, you automatically assume that they did so unthinkingly, without paying attention to a broad range of possible outcomes with reasonable probabilities attached to each, and that they didn’t seek out information updates and possible changing knowledge every step of the way. And that they agreed with every action, ignored the fact that politicians tend to be hypocrites, and did everything in lockstep.
most of the educated people I know are ones who live their lives in a way you clearly can’t comprehend (or just willfully ignore so you can act like you’re scoring debate points).
A fluffy (high cat) hurricane is a bit worse than that. You've prob seen 1 or 2 cat hurricanes. When these things get the zoomies, the power is out, the roads are underwater. Heck houses might flood in low lying areas.
we aren't right at the coast. historically they would lose a little oomph before here. the one this year was unusual in how it didn't seem to degrade until well inland. probably because it has 100F temperature fuel in summers now.
but, i get it, when we go visit the coast some restaurants have water markers from how high the surge got for hurricanes, along the side of the building itself. like going up the whole first floor.
we aren't right at the coast. historically they would lose a little oomph before here. the one this year was unusual in how it didn't seem to degrade until well inland. probably because it has 100F temperature fuel in summers now.
but, i get it, when we go visit the coast some restaurants have water markers from how high the surge got for hurricanes, along the side of the building itself. like going up the whole first floor.
Alright bud, stay safe, report in Thurs
I read somewhere that Milton might be the most destructive hurricane to ever hit the US.
The evacuation zones are just mind boggling. 10-15 ft storm surge for the Tampa Bay area. Glad my father sold his townhome in Naples and moved to SC. He would have been in a Zone A evacuation area.
The storm reached the physical limits for intensity yesterday. 180 mpw winds and 897 mb of pressure. Fifth most intense by pressure and top 10 for windspeed. There are hurricane warnings out for both coasts for pretty much the entire coastline except for the southern tip around the everglades and the panhandle area. The storm's path looks to be a direct hit on Tampa and then traveling just south of Orlando and then crossing the other coastline around Cape Canaveral. Outside of the Miami/Fort Lauderdale area, this path is crossing the most developed and populated corridor in Florida.
This storm is going to give Hurricane Andrew a run for its money as the worst storm in FL history. Small wabbles in the path could make a huge difference in how bad landfall is. If the eye passes to the south of Tampa Bay and crosses over the Sarasota area, Tampa Bay will be spared the worst of the storm surge. If it wobbles a bit more to the north and comes up Tampa Bay or just north around Clearwater, the surge will be catastrophic for the Tampa area. Models have it making landfall just on the south side of Tampa Bay.
The wind speeds are predicted to fall off slightly to a cat 3 on landfall. But that will not make any difference for the storm surge due to the massive size of the storm. And some forecasts are now predicting 145 mph winds on landfall, which would be a strong cat 4.
The evacuation zones are just mind boggling. 10-15 ft storm surge for the Tampa Bay area. Glad my father sold his townhome in Naples and moved to SC. He would have been in a Zone A evacuation area.
The storm reached the physical limits for intensity yesterday. 180 mpw winds and 897 mb of pressure. Fifth most intense by pressure and top 10 for windspeed. There are hurricane warnings out for both coasts for pretty much the entire coastline except for the southern tip around the everglades and the panhandle area. The storm's path looks to be a direct hit on Tampa and then traveling just south of Orlando and then crossing the other coastline around Cape Canaveral. Outside of the Miami/Fort Lauderdale area, this path is crossing the most developed and populated corridor in Florida.
This storm is going to give Hurricane Andrew a run for its money as the worst storm in FL history. Small wabbles in the path could make a huge difference in how bad landfall is. If the eye passes to the south of Tampa Bay and crosses over the Sarasota area, Tampa Bay will be spared the worst of the storm surge. If it wobbles a bit more to the north and comes up Tampa Bay or just north around Clearwater, the surge will be catastrophic for the Tampa area. Models have it making landfall just on the south side of Tampa Bay.
The wind speeds are predicted to fall off slightly to a cat 3 on landfall. But that will not make any difference for the storm surge due to the massive size of the storm. And some forecasts are now predicting 145 mph winds on landfall, which would be a strong cat 4.
The evacuation zones are just mind boggling. 10-15 ft storm surge for the Tampa Bay area. Glad my father sold his townhome in Naples and moved to SC. He would have been in a Zone A evacuation area.
The storm reached the physical limits for intensity yesterday. 180 mpw winds and 897 mb of pressure. Fifth most intense by pressure and top 10 for windspeed. There are hurricane warnings out for both coasts for pretty much the entire coastline except for the southern tip around the everglades and the panhandle area...
One of my longest time friends lives on eastern coast, just south of the expected hurricane track, and is five homes away from the shore, and is just five-feet above high tide level. She wanted to evacuate. Her husband said no, because they have a boat they can "ride out" in ... the guy is clueless. But that was when the surge on the Eastern side was expected to be just a few feet. Now the surge is expected to flood the lower level of the home.
climate change is about whether people notice details. it's warm in the summer. but it's now 5-10F hotter for both the low and high here. the storms show up nastier, last deeper inland, have bigger windfields (the nasty part is wider), dump amazing amounts of rain.
the guy claiming this is just some cycle has obviously never spent an afternoon looking at NWS climate data for where they live from prior decades as far back as the late 1800s.
The liberal anti science crowd is so predictable. Any warm, cold, rain, storm event is proof of climate change for them. 🤡
The evacuation zones are just mind boggling. 10-15 ft storm surge for the Tampa Bay area. Glad my father sold his townhome in Naples and moved to SC. He would have been in a Zone A evacuation area.
The storm reached the physical limits for intensity yesterday. 180 mpw winds and 897 mb of pressure. Fifth most intense by pressure and top 10 for windspeed. There are hurricane warnings out for both coasts for pretty much the entire coastline except for the southern tip around the everglades and the panhandle area...
One of my longest time friends lives on eastern coast, just south of the expected hurricane track, and is five homes away from the shore, and is just five-feet above high tide level. She wanted to evacuate. Her husband said no, because they have a boat they can "ride out" in ... the guy is clueless. But that was when the surge on the Eastern side was expected to be just a few feet. Now the surge is expected to flood the lower level of the home.
After looking at the map provided a few links above, my friend's home is in Zone A, Red for get the hell out of there. The opposite side of the state (over 100 miles away) is expected to get a surge like a direct hit from a "regular" hurricane. That is how strong this one is.
climate change is about whether people notice details. it's warm in the summer. but it's now 5-10F hotter for both the low and high here. the storms show up nastier, last deeper inland, have bigger windfields (the nasty part is wider), dump amazing amounts of rain.
the guy claiming this is just some cycle has obviously never spent an afternoon looking at NWS climate data for where they live from prior decades as far back as the late 1800s.
The abrupt recent climate change is mostly due to the Tongan Volcano. It increased water vapor concentration in the upper stratosphere by 10%. Meanwhile, CO2 concentrations increase by a fraction of a percent each year. The greenhouse effect is primarily driven by water vapor (over 60%), with a lesser contribution from CO2 (about 30%).
climate change is about whether people notice details. it's warm in the summer. but it's now 5-10F hotter for both the low and high here. the storms show up nastier, last deeper inland, have bigger windfields (the nasty part is wider), dump amazing amounts of rain.
the guy claiming this is just some cycle has obviously never spent an afternoon looking at NWS climate data for where they live from prior decades as far back as the late 1800s.
The abrupt recent climate change is mostly due to the Tongan Volcano. It increased water vapor concentration in the upper stratosphere by 10%. Meanwhile, CO2 concentrations increase by a fraction of a percent each year. The greenhouse effect is primarily driven by water vapor (over 60%), with a lesser contribution from CO2 (about 30%).
The best play is to be buying up land in the Midwest. This will be where climate refugees end up. Open space, no hurricanes, lots of fresh water, winters get more and more mild. Cities like South Bend, Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, etc, are all going to be booming in no time!
landfall "timing," meh -- hurricane rains and wind half the nastiness has been hitting you before the eye shows up. hours. lights have probably been off a while.
Storm surge and tides are essentially addictive. Forecasters are concerned with landfall timing because flooding will be worse/more widespread if the peak storm surge aligns with high tide.
climate change is about whether people notice details. it's warm in the summer. but it's now 5-10F hotter for both the low and high here. the storms show up nastier, last deeper inland, have bigger windfields (the nasty part is wider), dump amazing amounts of rain.
the guy claiming this is just some cycle has obviously never spent an afternoon looking at NWS climate data for where they live from prior decades as far back as the late 1800s.
The abrupt recent climate change is mostly due to the Tongan Volcano. It increased water vapor concentration in the upper stratosphere by 10%. Meanwhile, CO2 concentrations increase by a fraction of a percent each year. The greenhouse effect is primarily driven by water vapor (over 60%), with a lesser contribution from CO2 (about 30%).
if anything, wasn’t this volcano going to have a cooling effect on earth? However, the SO2 released by Tonga was relatively low, so it was not going to affect earth temperature. Was there more recent findings?
landfall "timing," meh -- hurricane rains and wind half the nastiness has been hitting you before the eye shows up. hours. lights have probably been off a while.
Storm surge and tides are essentially addictive. Forecasters are concerned with landfall timing because flooding will be worse/more widespread if the peak storm surge aligns with high tide.
This is what made "superstore Sandy" so deadly in the NYC area- high tide and a full moon. Still grateful for the Texas linemen who drove up and helped put the power back on.
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