Jakob is a distance runner who's unusually good at the 1500, not a 1500 runner who's unusually good at distance running.
Then why doesn't he run more distance races?
Are you dense? He's clearly stated that his TRAINING is focused on maximizing his shorter event success while simultaneously running the mileage and threshold training of a 5k/10k guy. It's like everyone misses the point. This is the whole premise behind his training. Imagine if Chep could also run 3:26.73. I just don't understand why so many ppl on this site just don't understand this. Lord. This, exactly, is WHY he can dominate 3k-10k. I don't know if it can ever explained anymore. Either you get it or you just never will.
Jakob is a distance runner who's unusually good at the 1500, not a 1500 runner who's unusually good at distance running.
Then why doesn't he run more distance races?
He does, he's undefeated in the 5000m since 2019. He's focusing on the 1500 while he's young and still has his speed, performance for long distances can be maintained when you're older better than short distances.
He does, he's undefeated in the 5000m since 2019. He's focusing on the 1500 while he's young and still has his speed, performance for long distances can be maintained when you're older better than short distances.
You can't argue with idiots. His name is coach and it is a registered name. Holy crap that scares me.
He does, he's undefeated in the 5000m since 2019. He's focusing on the 1500 while he's young and still has his speed, performance for long distances can be maintained when you're older better than short distances.
No. Idiots on LRC think they know more than Jakob and his coaches. LOL. It's just incredible.
Are you dense? He's clearly stated that his TRAINING is focused on maximizing his shorter event success while simultaneously running the mileage and threshold training of a 5k/10k guy. It's like everyone misses the point. This is the whole premise behind his training. Imagine if Chep could also run 3:26.73. I just don't understand why so many ppl on this site just don't understand this. Lord. This, exactly, is WHY he can dominate 3k-10k. I don't know if it can ever explained anymore. Either you get it or you just never will.
You miss the point even better. He focuses on the events he is best at. They don't include the 10k. Or the 800.
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Are you dense? He's clearly stated that his TRAINING is focused on maximizing his shorter event success while simultaneously running the mileage and threshold training of a 5k/10k guy. It's like everyone misses the point. This is the whole premise behind his training. Imagine if Chep could also run 3:26.73. I just don't understand why so many ppl on this site just don't understand this. Lord. This, exactly, is WHY he can dominate 3k-10k. I don't know if it can ever explained anymore. Either you get it or you just never will.
You miss the point even better. He focuses on the events he is best at. They don't include the 10k. Or the 800.
So why are you always talking about his 800m time?
Are you dense? He's clearly stated that his TRAINING is focused on maximizing his shorter event success while simultaneously running the mileage and threshold training of a 5k/10k guy. It's like everyone misses the point. This is the whole premise behind his training. Imagine if Chep could also run 3:26.73. I just don't understand why so many ppl on this site just don't understand this. Lord. This, exactly, is WHY he can dominate 3k-10k. I don't know if it can ever explained anymore. Either you get it or you just never will.
You miss the point even better. He focuses on the events he is best at. They don't include the 10k. Or the 800.
He's better at the 5000m than 1500, yet he focuses more on the 1500.
Jakob is a distance runner who's unusually good at the 1500, not a 1500 runner who's unusually good at distance running.
Then why doesn't he run more distance races?
because he likes the 1500m much better. It's actually written on his face. He's always excited about racing the 1500m, but looks somewhat bored running the 5000m, ngl I don't even think he knows the names of his competitors in the 5000m because he just doesn't care.
Anyway, the reason why we're so adamant he's better suited for the 5k/10k (or maybe even the hm) is not only his 7:17, but also his training and stats. Some people have already mentioned the double threshold he's been doing since like 11, so I won't elaborate here. One thing I'd like to add is his threshold. He had a threshold pace of 19.3kph at 16 (!), and 21-22 at 18. There has been no new test results since then, but It certainly would not be a stretch to think it's well north of 22 now, which means he can run more than 22k in 1 hour.
His lactate threshold is just off the chart. There's no way he wouldn't dominate the 5k/10k scene, as both distances highly correlate with your LT, more so than vo2max, compared to 1500m/3k. Now couple that with his 3:26, 7:17, in a championship setting, no one can run away from him, be the race fast or slow.
Barring unusual circumstances, like he falls, has a diarrhea before races, hell, maybe one of his competitors gone insane and shove him down mid-race, he would be unbeatable, just like Mo Farah. The only difference is he's even stronger than Mo.
That said, I think Bruns was being unnecessarily defensive and rude there, but I hope what I said kinda sheds some light on our reasoning.
You miss the point even better. He focuses on the events he is best at. They don't include the 10k. Or the 800.
So why are you always talking about his 800m time?
To reinforce that he is relatively slow for a top 1500 runner, which is why he is vulnerable to runners with more speed. The same kind of argument can be used for why he doesn't run the 10k; he may not have the endurance of the best over the longer distance. His "sweet spot" appears so far to be 2k-2miles. He is yet to show he is capable of 12:35 or better over 5k
He does, he's undefeated in the 5000m since 2019. He's focusing on the 1500 while he's young and still has his speed, performance for long distances can be maintained when you're older better than short distances.
No. Idiots on LRC think they know more than Jakob and his coaches. LOL. It's just incredible.
No, you don't get it. You can't anount him the best 10,000 meter runner ever until he races it.
The thread title suggests that it's a given that he can't lose a 10,000 meter race but history has shown that for whatever reason 3,000 meter record holders runners have lost 10,000 races.
Are you dense? He's clearly stated that his TRAINING is focused on maximizing his shorter event success while simultaneously running the mileage and threshold training of a 5k/10k guy. It's like everyone misses the point. This is the whole premise behind his training. Imagine if Chep could also run 3:26.73. I just don't understand why so many ppl on this site just don't understand this. Lord. This, exactly, is WHY he can dominate 3k-10k. I don't know if it can ever explained anymore. Either you get it or you just never will.
Stating that one day JI will become the greatest 10,000 meter runner is different than stating he's the best 10k runner today. The latter is not true until he runs it.
Are you dense? He's clearly stated that his TRAINING is focused on maximizing his shorter event success while simultaneously running the mileage and threshold training of a 5k/10k guy. It's like everyone misses the point. This is the whole premise behind his training. Imagine if Chep could also run 3:26.73. I just don't understand why so many ppl on this site just don't understand this. Lord. This, exactly, is WHY he can dominate 3k-10k. I don't know if it can ever explained anymore. Either you get it or you just never will.
Aregawi is about 5 seconds slower than Ingebrigtsen for 15000m. If they slowed down at the same rate, Ingebrigtsen would beat him by 10 second for 3000m, but it was less than 4 seconds. That trend will continue. They might be about even for 5000m, but Aregawi would have a significant edge for 10000.
It was the same thing for Centrowitz Sr. and Salazar at Pre in 1982. Centrowitz was also about 5 seconds faster than Salazar for 1500m, and at Pre in 1982, he out-kicked him to set a 5000m AR, but there is no way he could have kept up for 10000m. The other Centro ran about 13:00, but he couldn’t have run a comparable 27:00.
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