i also think some conservatives take "religion and politics" type efforts to generally calm down and channel social gatherings as personal persecution.
Some of these questions for a track and field is funny as sh*t. Who gives a damn about this dude. maybe he can be entered into a 30 meter race to see if he can actually run 30 meters, LMAO!
Rogan added, “I’m not a Trump supporter in any way, shape or form. I’ve had the opportunity to have him on my show more than once — I’ve said no, every time. I don’t want to help him. I’m not interested in helping him.” Fridman fired back and told Rogan that Trump will likely be a guest on “The Joe Rogan Experience” in the future, noting Rogan has had several guests on his show in the past who he didn’t necessarily agree with politically. Fridman noted Kanye West as one example. “Yeah, but Kanye’s an artist,” Rogan said. “Kanye doing well or not doing well, doesn’t change the course of our country.”
I would also note that to this day Rogan says if you summed up his feelings on a broad range of topics, he is way more left-wing than right-wing. For instance, he thinks the idea of telling the poor to pull themselves by their bootstraps is BS. My own feelings is he may overstate it, because at times when the right-wing has ideas or acting authoritative, Rogan's libertarian views kick in and he is anti-right wing on that subject, but not necessarily agreeing with the left either.
Now on some of today's hot button topics, like censorship and punishing healthy for not taking the vaccine, where the left is acting like an extreme authoritative government, then he is very angry at the left and it gets a lot of attention. But those views are consistent with his long held libertarian views, not right wing views being forced on the population. And yes, he thinks Biden is unfit mentally to be president. So that gets a lot of attention as well.
Personally his views on censorship, forced vaccines and Biden's mental health are not extreme to at all to me, but that is why I can still watch him. Other's can't, and want him censored, but they can't handle a world of a diversity of views.
i personally see him as an amoral junk food producer who doesn't care if he makes the world a worse place and rot your teeth out. fear factor, MMF, his podcast. i think even a few alex joneses are too many for a show to be nutritious. i don't care about your political parsings of precise percentage.
i think he is popular to a breed of white male conservative because he gives these conservatives what little mainstream oxygen they can get. maher is the other one. if cornered you nit pick exactly how many he runs on his show. you wouldn't be listening if it was actually that few. to me his listener is a certain kind of dude. that type lives off shock value and crudeness. the world takes all types but when your politics and manner make you less attractive to women maybe own it.
you wouldn't be raving about rogan if he ran jimmy fallon's guest list. come off it.
i think people are naive these days about their politicians and mouthpieces. do you really believe someone anti-vax and pro-ivermectin backs universal health care? pffft
likewise i don't believe someone who puts people through heck for popular amusement and a couple bucks like MMF and fear factor believes in welfare. he is the rich guy waving a $20 in front of you but only if you eat the leftovers from that table over there with a camera running. as with trump's darwinian show, only one person won.
he's a libertarian. you only get his money for turning a trick.
i personally see him as an amoral junk food producer who doesn't care if he makes the world a worse place and rot your teeth out. fear factor, MMF, his podcast. i think even a few alex joneses are too many for a show to be nutritious. i don't care about your political parsings of precise percentage.
i think he is popular to a breed of white male conservative because he gives these conservatives what little mainstream oxygen they can get. maher is the other one. if cornered you nit pick exactly how many he runs on his show. you wouldn't be listening if it was actually that few. to me his listener is a certain kind of dude. that type lives off shock value and crudeness. the world takes all types but when your politics and manner make you less attractive to women maybe own it.
you wouldn't be raving about rogan if he ran jimmy fallon's guest list. come off it.
>>i don't care about your political parsings of precise percentage.<<
Which means you have know idea what you talking about. You just want to make rash judgements or about how common something this, and you openly don't care if it is 70% or 0.01%.
>>you wouldn't be listening if it was actually that few.<<
That is flat-out wrong. He rarely talks about politics, and shows that are too political, or too extreme I will avoid or tune out. I never saw the Alex Jones episodes. What Jones talks about doesn't interest me. You are projecting your world of politics onto other people. A lot of people aren't like you.
>>you wouldn't be raving about rogan if he ran jimmy fallon's guest list.<<
I think this is one of main points of the misconception of Rogan's show. Jimmy Fallon's show is largely a list of actors on a promo tour for their latest movies. Rogan's show is largely authors on the promo tour of their latest book (although actors and directors do come to the show as well). And because Rogan's show is the most popular podcast, many authors of all backgrounds come on the show. Yes, the demographics will skew the list of authors. Authors with books on cooking and gardening probably aren't calling up to ask to be on the show. There are also shows where people just come to talk. The past couple of years have had a lot of pro-wrestlers, fighters and comedians. Not exactly a threat to society. But also obviously not appealing to many people. Fine. Don't watch those shows. Tune in for someone like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, or whatever interests you.
I think the driving narrative about Rogan is all about COVID. Before COVID, there was a large percentage of people who had never heard of him or only knew he was podcaster and had never seen his show. When he came out as a COVID vaccine skeptic for healthy people, he has suddenly portrayed by the MSM as a wild political commentator constantly spouting fringe views. This is obviously not what he is, but to keep that portrayal going they ignore him all the time, except for a once a year with a 10 second clip they can find that reinforces that notion.
But I don't think that highly of Rogan personally. He definitely has had his share of dumb comments and bad takes. But I do like the fact the he has an insatiable curiosity about everything, and he wants to be constantly learning. I trust myself to be able take in lots of information, and form my opinions. Those are the kind of people who like the show.
I find the podcast entertaining but don’t ever tell people I enjoy it. Kind of like when I was younger and loved Green Day but wouldn’t cop to it because they were viewed as sellouts. Guilty pleasures.
Fall Out Boy. Sum 41. Blink 182. Those are best kept in your private life. Green Day is a great band. They write and perform excellent songs and have intelligence behind all of it. They paid their dues and gained success through brilliance and consistency.
The issue with Joe Rogan is that he rarely pushes back on what his guests are claiming. He basically just says everything is interesting or fascinating. When guests are espousing idiotic ideas, I find that unlistenable.
The whole point of his approach is to get people comfortable so they speak freely. That's the whole point. If he shamed and condemned people, they'd clam up immediately, and far fewer people would be willing to talk to him.
Totally bizarre to me that anyone doesn't intuitively get that.
The issue with Joe Rogan is that he rarely pushes back on what his guests are claiming. He basically just says everything is interesting or fascinating. When guests are espousing idiotic ideas, I find that unlistenable.
The whole point of his approach is to get people comfortable so they speak freely. That's the whole point. If he shamed and condemned people, they'd clam up immediately, and far fewer people would be willing to talk to him.
Totally bizarre to me that anyone doesn't intuitively get that.
He generally lets the guest have their say without interrupting too much. But at the end, especially with someone with a controversial idea, he will always ask, "That sounds very compelling and very believable. What do people who don't believe it use as counter arguments?" The funny part is when the guest says something like, "They don't. They just ignore me or call me a liar", and then tries to quickly move on. That is when Joe comes in with his trademark, "Wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop stop." Usually three of each word. And then says, "Come on, they must have some counter arguments. If all of this was undebatably true, then most people would believe it. There must be some decent arguments against it." Then the guest will actually mention some things that he/she had been conveniently leaving out before.
I would just prefer to not listen to somebody else's opinions so much. I don't listen to any talking head types. And I don't think he deserves what he's making, so I want to be one less person to contribute to that.
Critical thinking is dead. Most women (and low-T males), base their decisions on feelings, while men (and alpha women) base their decisions on facts and logic. Look at all of the beta males on LRC and reddit who kneel at the altar of of Big Media/Military Industrial Complex/Big Pharma. They do what they have been programmed to do, and they don't question alternative views. They are not capable of alternative thought. There are a lot of fabulously wealthy men who got rich off of exploiting these Useful Idiots for a reason.
He had on Roger Penrose, Eric Weinstein, Brian Keating, and many other physicists, astronomers, nobel winner, and quite a few real PhD's (you know like in hard science, engineering and computer science not "gender studies") and so on. Yep..Rogan is pushing fake "science"..like say Fauci? Woman why don't like him because they tend to be authoritarian and are threatened by men
The issue with Joe Rogan is that he rarely pushes back on what his guests are claiming. He basically just says everything is interesting or fascinating. When guests are espousing idiotic ideas, I find that unlistenable.
The whole point of his approach is to get people comfortable so they speak freely. That's the whole point. If he shamed and condemned people, they'd clam up immediately, and far fewer people would be willing to talk to him.
Totally bizarre to me that anyone doesn't intuitively get that.
More bizarre is that you are so certain of your opinion despite clearly never having listened to any of his podcasts.
Rogan pushes back constantly and asks a million questions.
Critical thinking is dead. Most women (and low-T males), base their decisions on feelings, while men (and alpha women) base their decisions on facts and logic. Look at all of the beta males on LRC and reddit who kneel at the altar of of Big Media/Military Industrial Complex/Big Pharma. They do what they have been programmed to do, and they don't question alternative views. They are not capable of alternative thought. There are a lot of fabulously wealthy men who got rich off of exploiting these Useful Idiots for a reason.
I'm pretty sure all human beings base most decisions on morality, then paper over it with reasoning afterward. See Jonathan Haidt's book, The Righteous Mind. That's probably why it's been so easy to stir the pot in recent years and get people to hate one another. Education trains us to reevaluate our kneejerk responses so that we can be more rational, but education is failing right now because many students are taught to privilege a particular moral orthodoxy over the truth. In fact, all major knowledge-generating systems have been infected by this noxious moralizing (law, journalism, education). That's why I've been beating the drum here about knowledge-making systems grounded in liberalism. These prioritize reason, evidence, and individual dignity.
I agree that women seem to be more easily swayed by moral appeals, probably because we have evolve to be more involved in caretaking than men. However, all of us are capable of thinking differently. I am a woman, though I think I may be unusual? I cannot stand when people make assertions that are factually incorrect, then try to sway me by saying I should value feelings over the truth. In my opinion, telling the truth is the most moral thing to do.
Obviously, people are free to dislike Joe Rogan. The issue is that he was subject to an extensive character assasination campaign, though which his actual words and body of podcasting work have been twisted/misrepresented. This has happened with several public figures, but people don't recognize it if they aren't paying much attention and/or dwell within a single media ecosystem.
The actual issue here is that you have learned the scientific method, but you don’t understand the philosophy behind it. This leads people to fetishize particular methods (quantification, experiments) and erroneously reject potentially effective methods. Not all science is based on probability. Likewise, not all knowledge is grounded in science.
Ask yourself how you get through day-to-day life without quantifying everything if math-based science is the only way to generate knowledge about the world. Ask how you know anything about Joe Rogan or his show if you haven’t administered him and his guests a battery of validated psychological tests or quantified their interactions. Your entire worldview and the scientific enterprise itself are based primarily on liberalism. That system is under threat today because people no longer understand what it is and why we adopted it in the first place. My point is, once again, that science is part of a much larger knowledge-producing system grounded in liberal principles.
Your arguments make no sense. Science is self sufficient and scientists don’t care what broader philosophical framework you think encapsulates science.
Can’t care to engage with you further.
You're wrong. Science is not self-sufficient. It depends on the inculcation of particular dispositions within people--dispositions that scientific research, iteself, shows are not innate in human beings.
Science also requires a society that funds its enterprises and values merit over the moral character of the scientist. Have you tried to apply for NSF funding in recent years? Do you realize that many prospective grantees have to write a bunch of diversity stuff that is irrelevant to the proposed projects? Have you been part of a search committee trying to hire a new researcher? Do you know that faculty committees have to get approval from DEI in order to interview applicants and bring them to campus?
All of this stuff is having a profound effect on what you believe is a self-sufficient system. You should care, but you think you're somehow above the fray. Lots of people think that until the chaos affects them personally.
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