Jakob Ingebrigtsen vs Kelvin Kiptum in 10.000m race

wow they are dumb wrote:

Rubio wrote:

Fair enough, so I'm "the dumbest" for saying that Kiptum can't go much lower than 27. Let's narrow it down a bit more: he's not touching 26:45

And you said he can obviously run sub 26:20

I'm pretty confident your estimate is way, way, way off.

I could be wrong by 5-10 seconds, give or take.

1. I did not say "he can obviously run 26:20." I made no projections at all, except to utterly ridicule your suggestion he couldn't break 27:00 by much.

2. Chris Solinksy ran 26:59. In 2010. In his debut at the distance. He called it a "glorified tempo run."

You don't think that 2024 Kelvin Kiptum, the fasterst marathon performer ever to live with a 2:00:35, could get 15 seconds away from 2010 Chris Solinsky debuting over 10k. 😂😂😂

You are literally hilarious.

high school xc coach wrote:

wow they are dumb wrote:

1. I did not say "he can obviously run 26:20." I made no projections at all, except to utterly ridicule your suggestion he couldn't break 27:00 by much.

2. Chris Solinksy ran 26:59. In 2010. In his debut at the distance. He called it a "glorified tempo run."

You don't think that 2024 Kelvin Kiptum, the fasterst marathon performer ever to live with a 2:00:35, could get 15 seconds away from 2010 Chris Solinsky debuting over 10k. 😂😂😂

You are literally hilarious.

Chris solinsky calling that a glorified tempo run just goes to show you that even pros don't understand what a tempo run is supposed to be, and might be why is career was cut so incredibly short.

wow they are dumb wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

Chris solinsky calling that a glorified tempo run just goes to show you that even pros don't understand what a tempo run is supposed to be, and might be why is career was cut so incredibly short.

Sure.

But the point remains that some guy on LR thinks 2:00:35 marathoner Kelvin Kiptum could barely beat 2010 Chris Solinsky in a 10,000 for time.

LOLOLOL.

Yoxie wrote:

Chris Solinsky was a 12:55 and 26:59 runner. So in today’s spikes MAYBE he is a 12:49 and 26:47 runner. It is not clear that Kiptum could easily defeat Sokinsky in his prime on the track. We just don’t know.

Charlesvdw wrote:

We could rephrase the question: who is a more exceptional athlete; JI or KK ?

Kiptum is more than half a minute faster over the marathon than Kipchoge and more than a minute faster than Bekele.

Ingebrigtsen on the other hand has run 3:27:14 for 1500, more than a second slower than the WR.

I think Kiptum is faster than Jakob for every distance from 10k up to the marathon. And I'm not even sure Jakob would prevail if both athletes dedicated themselves to 5k training for a year.

Nick Kipleri wrote:

Guys would love too much to see Kiptum at this best in a 10km Road race such as San Silvestre V or Valencia Ibercaja to see what time he could run. He ran 27'54" the last 10k of the marathon in London and 27'52" the last 10k in Chicago but It May be that he wouldn't break 27' in a 10k race. He May be an endurance freak but unable to run much faster than that.

Yoxie wrote:

wow they are dumb wrote:

Sure.

But the point remains that some guy on LR thinks 2:00:35 marathoner Kelvin Kiptum could barely beat 2010 Chris Solinsky in a 10,000 for time.

LOLOLOL.

Chris Solinsky was a 12:55 and 26:59 runner. So in today’s spikes MAYBE he is a 12:49 and 26:47 runner. It is not clear that Kiptum could easily defeat Sokinsky in his prime on the track. We just don’t know.

Rubio wrote:

Yoxie wrote:

Chris Solinsky was a 12:55 and 26:59 runner. So in today’s spikes MAYBE he is a 12:49 and 26:47 runner. It is not clear that Kiptum could easily defeat Sokinsky in his prime on the track. We just don’t know.

This.

The former poster is talking about 26:40ish as it was nothing.

Mo, Aregawi, Kejelcha... have never run sub 26:45

Barega's best is 26:44 high.

KIPTUM IS AMAZING, I'm not downplaying him. I'm a fan, FFS.

Obviously he is damn fast, but we have no reason to believe he is one of the fastest athletes ever in the 10000 without specific training.

Nick Kipleri wrote:

He ran 27'54" the last 10k of the marathon in London and 27'52" the last 10k in Chicago but It May be that he wouldn't break 27' in a 10k race.

Rubio wrote:

The former poster is talking about 26:40ish as it was nothing.

Mo, Aregawi, Kejelcha... have never run sub 26:45

Barega's best is 26:44 high.

every single 12:40 guy could run 26:30 wrote:

Rubio wrote:

The former poster is talking about 26:40ish as it was nothing.

Mo, Aregawi, Kejelcha... have never run sub 26:45

Barega's best is 26:44 high.

Is that because you seriously believe 12:40 guys couldn't run sub 26:45 or.... is it perhaps because of a lack of serious attempts and good setups? Also, Aregawi has run sub 26:45.... a 26:30 on the roads by the way. So no, you're already wrong there.

Yoxie wrote:

wow they are dumb wrote:

Sure.

But the point remains that some guy on LR thinks 2:00:35 marathoner Kelvin Kiptum could barely beat 2010 Chris Solinsky in a 10,000 for time.

LOLOLOL.

Chris Solinsky was a 12:55 and 26:59 runner. So in today’s spikes MAYBE he is a 12:49 and 26:47 runner. It is not clear that Kiptum could easily defeat Sokinsky in his prime on the track. We just don’t know.

wow they are dumb wrote:

Rubio wrote:

This.

The former poster is talking about 26:40ish as it was nothing.

Mo, Aregawi, Kejelcha... have never run sub 26:45

Barega's best is 26:44 high.

KIPTUM IS AMAZING, I'm not downplaying him. I'm a fan, FFS.

Obviously he is damn fast, but we have no reason to believe he is one of the fastest athletes ever in the 10000 without specific training.

Who said anything about 26:40?

An uninformed poster said Kiptum "couldn't break 27 by much." I said that is the dumbest thing I have read here all year. And it stil

"26:40ish" is obviously a universe faster than 27:00 (duh), but yes Kiptum could do it.

Anyone who thinks 2:00:35 marathoner Kiptum is closer in 10k ability to scrub Solinksy (26:59) than he is to Barega (26:44) knows NOTHING about the sport. PERIOD.

4:20 is not that fast wrote:

Yoxie wrote:

Chris Solinsky was a 12:55 and 26:59 runner. So in today’s spikes MAYBE he is a 12:49 and 26:47 runner. It is not clear that Kiptum could easily defeat Sokinsky in his prime on the track. We just don’t know.

With those adjustments, Cheptegei is a 12:41 and 26:23 runner, and Bekele, 12:31 and 26:05.

wow they are dumb wrote:

There are a LOT of people who WISH that a 29:00 10k (2:54/k pace) projected to a 2:08 marathon (3:03/k pace). LOL!