Jakob Ingebrigtsen wants ALL of the WRs - 1500 through marathon: "If Some People Can Do Something, I Believe I Can Do It Better"

Blah, blah. So how many world records does Jakob have to Clarke's - since he says he wants all the records?

(And the "weak" CG competition that Clarke faced contained Halberg, Keino and Temu, world record holders and Olympic champions. You are pig-ignorant).

jacob with pacing to 1200m, gets the mile wr now obviously. he only has to draft closer, and stay out of no man's land, don't know why he lacks this skill, you can just do repeats of 400m and draft, one session per week, and it will be ingrained.

the 3000m record is obviously on, with drafting, he can put a good dent in komen's record,

the 5000 record is also on, as he's aerobic and the 3000m fitness translates directly to the 5k. he can go sub 1230. again he'll need pacing to take a big chunk out of the record.

the 10k is a different story, nobody who is adapted to 55 second 400m laps has run anywhere near a WR, maybe Aouita. but who wants to run 10k ?? it's not a fun thing to do, especially when you can get more thrills in 5k `1.5k, but to run 10k you need some calories stored, and it is small speculation that jacob does not posess this talent, which is to store enough fuel for 10k, and the fuel factor comes into play after 2k distance, where great aerobic needs fuel to be super elite.

fuel is the main factor in running a marathon. you need 2 hours of fuel. and this is the main talent after being capable of 13min 5k on the track.

so jacob needs to develop (maybe he has) the gas tank and fill it up, and it is speculation that he can do this.

the steeple will be very easy for jacob, if you add on 3 seconds/lap for the hurdles, do the math.

then you have to recognize that outliers, don't adhere exactly to the rules.

since jacob can take the 1500 record just by paying 3 pacers to bring himi to 1200, the marathon is the most speculative WR.

if the athletics braintrust figures out how to add 20% to the fuel tank, then the whole marathon sport will change dramatically, where guys can put together 2 x 59 minu halves.

of course that fuel storage booster, that could be a PED, which is legal at this point, or some kind of "natural" reigeme, a kind of carb boost, but not the carbo boost technique of the 1980s, which was more or less quackery.

I think some of the concept of having goals is that you set goals to achieve stuff you haven't achieved, don't you think?

Nothing new that you're not interested in facts.

Ingebrigtsen has three world records compared to Clarke's zero - new for you?

(interesting, that our Imby doesn't want to include
Ingebrigtsen's 1500m indoor WR (3 1/2 seconds faster than Morceli ever has run in many attempts),
but wants to include a
3 Miles indoor (!) record from Clarke as well as 2 3 Miles and a 4 Miles (!!!) record outdoors).

What would be a forum like this without such dumbos? - a much better place.

At Ingebrigtsen's current age, Clarke's first WR was still 3 1/2 years away.

But we have to wait if Ingebrigtsen really can challenge Clarke in the record department.
Very unlikely that he will get 11 outdoor records like Clarke (if we really want to count his hour and his 10 Miles record). But if he get's a record in both the 5000m and the 10000m he definitely has done better also here than Clarke. Looking at the full career, he definitely will surpass Clarke already next year (barring injury).

Nonono. Jakob at an age of 22 does not have as many records and gold medals as the worlds best runners of all time got throughout their career, so he is obviously a loser.

You seem vaguely familiar. Hello! I concur with much of your post. Your steeplechase comment is the one showing you are out of your league here, but otherwise a good post.

YOU are the one who are completely ignorant here. Aren´t we discussing if Jakob can break the 3000m steeple WR? And you said he couldn´t go faster than 7:55.

Your hero Shaheen ran a 7:53 in the steeple. And ran 7:32 in the 3000m and 8:18 in the 2 mile.

Jakob has run high 7:23 on tired legs in the 3000m and 7:54 in the 2 mile (which indicates he as least can run 7:20 in the 3000m).

And you don´t think Jakob can run significantly faster than Shaheen in the steeple?

Are you aware that Jakob competed in the 2017 WC in the steeple in the age 16?

You are a LIAR. He never said Jakob couldn’t run faster than 7:55. He said Jakob might be able to run 7:55.

He's already shown a huge drop off in the 10k, so I don't think any world records past 5k will be in his future, let alone a marathon. I think he's just too big and fast-twitch to be successful at those events. He's a 15-5k guy like ElG and Komen were.

SubjectiveObserver

Are you a paid shill to advocate for Jakob? It is unbelievable! Jakob is heterosexual as far as we can tell so get off your knees and leave the man alone. You discuss him as if you worship him. Are you a family member? It is amazing to those of us with analytical skills to see how you embarrass yourself here.

Hes gonna need to get thinner for the thon, however, I don’t doubt he can do it. 3 minute Ks is jogging for a 3:27 1500 guy. Especially one that’s built an incredible threshold.

The setting of goals never establishes that they must be achieved. If it were otherwise, no one would ever fail - but they do. Even Jakob can fail - as we have seen repeatedly now in the WC 1500. Till he takes the records it is merely talk.

I mean, obviously. But its so strange to hold it against him that he isn't the best of all time.

More of the usual drivel. Jakob's age has nothing to do with what he might achieve in the future. In sport nothing is inevitable. Ryun never got better than when he was 20, Amos 18. So far the number of records Jakob has is a fraction of those achieved by a runner like Clarke - so when it comes to record-breaking he isn't even in the same conversation as many of the greats. Not a single record yet over a championship distance. Until he breaks the records you all say he will get it all remains in the realm of fantasy - but that's where you Jakob fans clearly live. I'm sure you all expected him to win the WC 1500 on the last couple of occasions, but he didn't. That is sport. Nothing is a given until it occurs.

You're an idiot. Nothing is being held against him. The claim being made - that he is also making - is that he will take all the records from the 1500 to the marathon. There is nothing that confirms he will do that, regardless of whether those are his goals; it is purely speculation and to anyone with any realistic appreciation of what it would take it is extremely unlikely. But it does speak of just how big-headed he is that he suggests what he will achieve when he is so far from doing it.

the window is getting smaller after today, and I'm a Jakob's fanboy. :(