Women’s 1500m final

This is true. I honestly hope she shuts it down and forgoes USATF 5k and takes some time off to recover. The haters can say what they want - this is their night to celebrate I guess. Really need to examine their life choices in doing so but oh well. Here’s what I know: Tuohy’s been down before, she will be back.

Yes, agree. Although, if she was in indoor fitness she could have won tonight. Did they just totally misjudge it? Don't they do time trials? Wake Forest was also an indicator, very similar results and pace but this was worse. I wonder how they approach US champs now?

Henes has the 'strength is speed' philosophy but whatever they are doing right now doesn't seem to be working. Hopefully she can take a break.

Apologies if that seemed like I was talking trash on KT. I just don't think she has the speed to compete in championship 1500 races.

Yea. Once she went to the lead early and the commentators said it was 92 deg I figured she wasn't going to win.

A better tactical move, since she does not have the kick, is a long push from 800m out. She slowed down enough during lap 3 that the kickers ate her lunch.

Alan

Hopefully she does not run US champs. Something’s not right. Overtraining syndrome? Iron deficient? Needs some time off to recover.Something is off with the entire team though.

much better to go for it and fail than play it conservatively and spend the rest of your life wishing you had gone for it.

Nico Young did the same thing last night. went for it all. didn't work out but screw it, life is short.

and don't forget NC State isn't going for a team title, all their runners are going for personal achievements. no reason to play it safe for points.

W Steeple was similar. Someone pushed and led up until the last lap then got sliced up and couldn't respond to a move by the winner.

Alan

Tuohy should have went pro after the cross championships. She didn't need to add anymore to her resume. It's her personal reasons but when you're getting that much attention you jump on it. I'm sure she'll still go pro i just think she's wasting too much of her talent at the amateur status.

Tyynismaa said in her post race interview that she herself was not feeling 100% yesterday, did not comment on Tuohy.

What?! She just ran a bad race tactically in super hot conditions. She still ran a fast time all things considered. You don't have to have overtraining syndrome or be iron deficient every time you fade in a race you execute poorly in tough conditions.

She's most likely fine. All this really shows that the 1500 probably isn't her main event and that maybe she should focus on speed more even if the 5K or 10K are.

7th 1500, dns in her best event. Not exactly no brainer to go pro.

Tuohy did sign a big contract for money after the xc championships. It's called NIL. It's the new way of doing things.

Nico Young’s experience at NCAAs was almost identical to Tuohy’s and he’ll still compete. Assuming she’s not injured, she’s not much of a competitor if she’ll shut down a season because of one bad race.

I must have somehow missed seeing Nico try to wire the field in the 1500 before his 5000 race. I'll go back and rewatch that race.

You post on this site a lot and some of your takes are shall we say, odd. I have no idea why Tuohy would have scratched the 5000, do you? She may not be the greatest runner in history like all of her fans claim but saying she'e not much of a competitor is just not a good take.

Both he and Tuohy ran one race, tried to gap the field, but got passed by several people. What’s the difference?

There’s a big difference between not attempting the double and shutting down the season and unless there is something wrong with her physically, she will run at a the U. S. championships. Otherwise, why even compete in a sport?

What's the difference? You implied that Nico was a competitor and Tuohy wasn't based on her not running a 2nd race... he didn't run a 2nd race either so it's and odd comparison.

And for someone to sit on the sidelines, someone who hasn't raced competitively in what 40+ years? to say some kid 'isn't much of a competitor' is a bit presumptuous.

The point I was trying to make is that something has changed from the fitness level Tuohy was at during the indoor season. Her opening split should have been fine for someone who ran a 4:24 mile earlier this year along with the strength shown by the 3k and 5k times she ran. Not the same runner that she was earlier in the year - something’s different now.

Henes said that Touhy wasn't feeling well after the 1500 which is why the decision was made to withdraw from the 5k.