Parker Valby is the most talented girl in the country

She ran 15:20 last year while only running twice a week after earlier in the year breaking her foot. She now appears to be healthy and training normally so running sub 15 is not that extraordinary. Nothing about this is strange.

It is not close to a clean progression, especially after alleged injuries. Sorry. Not going put on a limb here.

And you think it’s normal to run a 15:20 off of only 2 days a week of running?

Dominique Scott Efeurd record was 19:23 in 2015. Efeurd ran 15:25 and 15:30 on the track, before super shoes. Lacctic here is pretty accurate.

I mean an athlete who already had a suspicious progression, who already exhibited signs of ped use suddenly comes back from a layoff to bomb a super-suspect time? Ducks in a barrel.

Surgery and downtime in June also.

There is only one way someone could rebound from that to this degree this quickly. We were not all born yesterday.

This is what gets me in this thread. People keep citing her time off 2 days of running a week as evidence that the progression isn’t suspicious. In reality, that’s exhibit A of suspicious improvement.

Maybe she’s clean. Maybe she’s not. No one here knows. But her last year has been suspicious as hell.

What is interesting about the race splits is that she was already ahead by a minute and then slowed way down in the last 600m and kept her lead. Did not see the race, but I guess she probably could have gone faster.

Valby beat Addie engel who is ranked around 30 by a full minute, and Grace Forbes time by a minute. Crazy.

Tuohy should just turn pro right now. She can’t beat a healthy Valby. No more championships .

14:51 5k speed on track

about 25 seconds faster than Tuohy’s pb.

Valby should go pro. If she is running 14:51 she is the next Gidey. But yes, Valby will crush the field and be top NCAA all time 5k, etc, if this holds out.

Amazing what chemistry can accomplish. After the loss last year I think she just decided to go all in to land a contract and try to be Sydney McLaughlin. It's a career plan.

I gave her the benefit of the doubt until I saw 14:51….

She’s close to challenging Alicia Monson and could probably beat Weini Keilati

Yep. When you run a time rated like that you are not even trying to hide it.

With her rate of progression and PBs she will beat Schweizer and Cranny within a year

American record when?

A mind-blowing time like this, which is about 20 seconds ahead of the fastest ever NCAA 6x xc times that I have seen, screams short course or rising star. I think it's a combination of rising star and fast but legit course. 2nd place was Addie Engel of Ohio State in 20:02. She had run only 20:54 and 20:39 this year but ran 19:59 at regionals last year and 20:15 at NCAAs. So either the course was a little short or it is just very fast and that, plus Valby's incredible pace, led Engel to running close to her best time. Valby ran 15:20 as a freshman after 19:41 in xc, so she is one of the best talents ever in the NCAA.

Pretty soon if you drop 30 seconds every 3 months from a race like the 5k

Next year? LOLL.

Like I always say, nothing prevents college runners from playing this game but the decision not to do so. There is an alternative universe out there where Tuohy is ruthless and Lance Armstrong like and already running 14:20s. There is not enough testing in the NCAA to stop it, especially if you avoid the world trials.