In a blow to college educated white progressives, Justice Alito says ONLY women can get pregnant in landmark decision, calls abortion “a medical procedure that only one sex can undergo”
Just so we're clear, the right to contraception, gay marriage and even the right to be in a gay relationship without being prosecuted, are now up for debate?
There will actually be social unrest and civil disobedience if they try and do this.
well the way a democracy is supposed to work is that if your reps do something you don't like, for example outlawing abortion or contraception, you vote them out.
I'm telling you, this could reshift politics if the Rs overplay their hands here. Could drive a lot of people - esp women - to pull the D lever.
Another aspect is that it really isn't right for a court to decide these things. Many things should be decided by legislatures at the state and national level.
Skeptical that will happen. People only vote on issues and switch parties if the issues are made central to that parties campaign.
Ds talking about reproductive rights and Rs talking about inflation and gas prices, will lead to a Republican victory.
Democrats should obviously be pro-choice and offer full-throated support, but the fight for abortion access will need to made through the grass-roots.
Dred Scott was also a precedent. Just like Plessy.
They said this just a few years ago. It's obvious they had no intention of honoring the precedent. They lied during there confirmation hearings, and the only person dumb enough to not see through it was Susan Collins.
Sums it up.
Whatever side of the abortion-issue fence you stand on, it's absolutely clear Republican SCJ nominees out-and-out lied in their confirmation hearings.
What does it say when the "Supreme" arbiters of American law are dishonest?
Roe was a precedent. Precedents can be overturned. There's no controversy here, sorry your media sources misled you.
It’s not about my media sources. Yes, precedent can be overturned, but these three justices literally said that it was settled law during their hearings. And then changed it in their very first opportunity. What I’m stating is that the American public has lost faith in the court because justices will say anything to get appointed.
Roe v Wade, gone. Abortion will become illegal in around half the states. I've said for years that if this happens, the Dems will get a boost. Tons of people will wake up feeling like the dog who caught the sports car and have some massive buyer's remorse. Millions don't want to live in a theocracy where the government has this kind of power over women. And many religious Rs can stay at home now and not vote, because they are one-issue voters and the deal is done in their state. And now moderate pro-life types can vote for Ds for congress, senate and WH. Because abortion doesn't matter any more nationally. Will be interesting to see if this causes a shift in politics, starting in November 22.
I agree. I’m pro-life but not a fundamentalist about it. Even if constitutionally unsound, SCOTUS should’ve left this alone. Combined w 1/6 Kabuki theatre, GOP trying to snatch defeat from jaws of victory.
I hate this country anymore. Economic illiterates on the far left, fundamentists on the far right getting all the leverage. Trumpism absolutely sucked, but it never could’ve happened without the original BLMer and woke activist in Obama.
I see another idiot making idiotic comments. First off women are raped and victims of incest, not being a whore. Men are the reason for that. There are plenty of men whores who rape people. If men could get pregnant, you would be the first to be raped and impregnated you fool and then forced to have your b*****d baby if you live in a backwards a** state.
Again, it’s not about overturning a precedent. that happens all the time. It’s about the fact that these justices were so committed to not overturning it just a few years ago during their hearings and that They say anything to get on the bench. and don’t get me wrong, it happens with the three liberal justices as well. But it has become apparent that all of the justices basically make up their mind before they even hear the cases and then try to find legal precedent to justify their decisions based on their own feelings. There are no more middle of the road justices. It’s far right or far left. And that is why confidence in the court is so low right now.
Roe v Wade was decided in part upon reliance on a prior interpretation of the 14th amendment in Griswold v Connecticut. In that case, the USC struck down a law banning the possession, sale and distribution of contraceptives. The main basis for the opinion was the notion of a right to privacy that exists as part of the 14th amendments "liberty" guaranty. So, while it is true that women can still get contraception, there may not be any constitutional protection against a state law banning contraception after Roe's reversal. And it is not speculation as to whether states would ban contraception. Idaho and Louisiana are considering IUD bans. With Roe's reversal, right wingers will be empowered to try and ban contraception outright.
Yep. Clarence Thomas' opinion made it quite clear that they're coming for contraception and gay marriage next. Congratulations, conservatives, you saved all the fetuses. But no paid family leave so parents can bond with those forced babies, right? No child tax credits to support families, right? No expanded SNAP benefits to ensure those kids don't go hungry, right? No universal Pre-K to give these kids the best possible chance of success, right? Yep, now that you've saved all the babies, you can go about the important business of making sure they spend the rest of their lives suffering. Just like God intended. You're all so very pious.
So 6 unelected people (only one of whom is a woman) have taken away the rights of millions of Americans - all of whom are women. And they did it without firing a shot. Governments around the world will be envious. But none of them will be democracies.
Roe v Wade was decided in part upon reliance on a prior interpretation of the 14th amendment in Griswold v Connecticut. In that case, the USC struck down a law banning the possession, sale and distribution of contraceptives. The main basis for the opinion was the notion of a right to privacy that exists as part of the 14th amendments "liberty" guaranty. So, while it is true that women can still get contraception, there may not be any constitutional protection against a state law banning contraception after Roe's reversal. And it is not speculation as to whether states would ban contraception. Idaho and Louisiana are considering IUD bans. With Roe's reversal, right wingers will be empowered to try and ban contraception outright.
Yep. Clarence Thomas' opinion made it quite clear that they're coming for contraception and gay marriage next. Congratulations, conservatives, you saved all the fetuses. But no paid family leave so parents can bond with those forced babies, right? No child tax credits to support families, right? No expanded SNAP benefits to ensure those kids don't go hungry, right? No universal Pre-K to give these kids the best possible chance of success, right? Yep, now that you've saved all the babies, you can go about the important business of making sure they spend the rest of their lives suffering. Just like God intended. You're all so very pious.
It’s not about my media sources. Yes, precedent can be overturned, but these three justices literally said that it was settled law during their hearings. And then changed it in their very first opportunity. What I’m stating is that the American public has lost faith in the court because justices will say anything to get appointed.
They should be impeached for lying under oath.
Amy Coney Barret, under oath: "Cases [like Roe] are so well settled that no political actors and no people seriously push for their overruling."
Brett Kavanaugh, under oath: "[Roe] is an important precedent... [Roe and Casey] have been reaffirmed many times. Casey is precedent on precedent."
Neil Gorsuch, under oath: "Roe v Wade... is precedent of SCOTUS. It has been reaffirmed... A good judge will consider it as precedent."
Roe was a precedent. Precedents can be overturned. There's no controversy here, sorry your media sources misled you.
It’s not about my media sources. Yes, precedent can be overturned, but these three justices literally said that it was settled law during their hearings.
Yes, settled laws can be overturned. Your media sources have in fact misled you, sorry you had to find out this way.
So 6 unelected people (only one of whom is a woman) have taken away the rights of millions of Americans - all of whom are women. And they did it without firing a shot. Governments around the world will be envious. But none of them will be democracies.
How can you take away a right that was found not to exist?
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