Zach Long- 11th 5k
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Commondenominator wrote:
She is the common denominator. For many years there has been a continuous stream of coaches and athletes who echo the same sentiment.....she can be cut throat and lacks character. Her husband is also an enabler of this behavior. He is laid back but inappropriate and negative. If you go to coaches convention, she is the one who stands up and talks the most during any debate as if she is one of the big fish. She has never won crap but you would think she was something special just watching her confidence and body language in a room full of elite coaches with big trophies. She talks down to other small college coaches and assistant coaches with a tone that is quite insulting. She overcompensate her insecurity with the bravado of condescending tone. She talks to her athletes one way and then talks trash about them five minutes later behind their back. She pits one athlete against another. She spends too much time at the bar and in the hotel lobby badmouthing other coaches but then smiles and hugs them five minutes later at the track. She is paranoid and makes too many decision as if everyone is out to get her. Maybe they are because she has manipulated too many people over the years and its catching up to her. I believe that the lies and deceitful tactics have finally caught up and the word is out. Some individuals will kiss her butt because they think they can get something from her. Big mistake. Her team did well this year but it was not enough to save her. Kudos to her assistants, I hope they keep their jobs. Word has gotten out that she is only your friend when you are propping her up. She often inserts herself into coaching interactions and photo ops with her assistant coaches and athletes in their moment of glory, as if it was her doing. Check the photos. She appears jealous when other coaches get credit. You won't ever see quotes in the press releases from her assistants. Athletes eventually pick up on this selective niceness that quickly wanes if you get injured, struggle or have a bad performance. Its not uncommon for her to call athletes into her office that are struggling and grill them. She ratchets down the pressure and makes them basically promise to perform better next week. Bad for mental health. No excuse is good enough. If you are not performing, you will be ignored and isolated so you will choose to leave or quit. She has an inner circle that loves her, but if you are not in the inner circle you will quickly know it. This is a bad strategy when you also have such a large team. Would have worked better if she kept the numbers really small and elite. Having so many non competitive athletes which she liked to call "scrubby dubbies" on the team definitely created a culture of haves and have nots.
Read this old article from when they hired the new distance coach.A coach should never say, "It is truly exciting to bring Austin back to Rocky Top and MY program.” It shows that she thinks the program is only about her. The program is as storied as any in collegiate track and field. It is the fellow coaches, current athletes, former athletes, the University’s, and the state of Tennessee’s program. Not hers.
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He wants that head position at Arkansas, we all know that
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Clearly you care bro
Just say you didn’t get a spot on the team a move on
Typically weinypants
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tj watt 757 wrote:
Zach Long- 11th 5k
I said cross country. They’re embarrassing in cross country, and embarrassing on the track other than Long, Blaase, and now Seymour.
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washed up Olympian wrote:
Sydney Seymour improved to the most talked about runner on this website stan Tuohy, and the cast don't have an abundance of HS accolades.
Sydney Seymour was starting to be talked about in this site also due to the fact that she is rumored to transfer and join Tuohy at NC State
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Thiessen qualified this year as well
Women we’re only a couple points off qualifying? Your point isn’t great
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Vol Track Fan2 wrote:
tj watt 757 wrote:
Zach Long- 11th 5k
I said cross country. They’re embarrassing in cross country, and embarrassing on the track other than Long, Blaase, and now Seymour.
They said cross country. I do not know how I got in there. Stink in’ android autocorrect.
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Do care wrote:
Thiessen qualified this year as well
Women we’re only a couple points off qualifying? Your point isn’t great
I said All American. Thiessen came in 125th. It’s year 8, that program is too good for it to be year 8 and still talking about almost making it.
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sources from letsrun wrote:
washed up Olympian wrote:
Sydney Seymour improved to the most talked about runner on this website stan Tuohy, and the cast don't have an abundance of HS accolades.
Sydney Seymour was starting to be talked about in this site also due to the fact that she is rumored to transfer and join Tuohy at NC State
So… she’s been coached up enough to become a threat when added to the defending National champ? Glad we agree.
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The program was a dumpster fire when she took over. The women did not even have enough to compete in Cross Country her first year. They had to have 800 girls run cross country just to fill the team. In 2015 they found a girl on the club team to join the team to fill out the roster. In 2015 the men had pretty much all freshman competing. They came in 11th at SECs on both sides in cross country in 2015. The program has improved tenfold in her time. Blaase was a multi-time All American and 10K school record holder in 32:08. Zach Long won at Stanford Invite in 13:39 over studs like Tyler Day/Edwin Kurgat/Cole Rockhold/Craig Lutz, also a multi-time All American and the 3K/5K school record holder. Seymour has a chance to become All American this Spring and is the 5K school record holder. The people in this thread slandering her don't know anything about her and her coaching ability.
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Also, I am very flattered someone named themselves Vol Track Fan 2 in my honor. Means a lot.
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On the men's side results have seemed to have been improving, especially from the young core that they have.. Quick look at TFRRS Shows
FR- Anderson 8:11, 3:42
SO- Nahom 9:01 steeple
FR- Griffin 8:08
SR- Crigger 8:47 steeple
JR- Thiessen 28:59
SR- Thacker 4:01 mile, 3:43
On the women's side the trend has improved exponentially over the past 4 years.
JR- Seymour 15:36, 4:21
JR- Thronson 15:54, 10:04 steeple, 4:26
FR- Sutliff 16:47
FR- Tucker 16:56
FR- Gholar 10:21, 4:31
FR- Dixon 4:23
JR- Janke 4:21
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tj watt 757 wrote:
On the men's side results have seemed to have been improving, especially from the young core that they have.. Quick look at TFRRS Shows
FR- Anderson 8:11, 3:42
SO- Nahom 9:01 steeple
FR- Griffin 8:08
SR- Crigger 8:47 steeple
JR- Thiessen 28:59
SR- Thacker 4:01 mile, 3:43
On the women's side the trend has improved exponentially over the past 4 years.
JR- Seymour 15:36, 4:21
JR- Thronson 15:54, 10:04 steeple, 4:26
FR- Sutliff 16:47
FR- Tucker 16:56
FR- Gholar 10:21, 4:31
FR- Dixon 4:23
JR- Janke 4:21
Anderson and Griffin were Footlocker Finalists, I’d hope they would be alright. Griffin hasn’t done anything in over a year. 9:01 isn’t good. Crigger has gotten worse. Thiessen is very good. Thacker was already good and had won a NAIA title before he transferred.
Seymour is the only one. Thronson was a star in HS, I would hope she would be good. I don’t care about these average girls running 16:50s and 4:30 1500s. At what point do we stop talking about young athletes when they don’t get any better. Alford-Sullivan failed a once proud distance program.
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Missing the point. She could always have four or five great athletes (you have 30 full rides to give out) and Tennessee has a lot to sell. Combined program improved from Clark but geez he was a train wreck with the men. Imagine if Henry, Flo or Holloway had been there the last 12 years. That’s the type of leader and program like Tennessee should have. Instant world class recruiting and coaching. Bows to no one. Someone to take them to the top without any excuses. A person who never sees UT as second fiddle to anyone, ever. It’s a mindset.
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smokeygunvol wrote:
Overall, she may be a good figurehead and she sure knows how to be in charge and demand respect. But, she lacks a deep passion for her athletes and has always prioritized her love for winning over her team and athletes.
Beth is/was/will be only a figurehead. Nothing more.
She knows that she wants to be in charge and she doesn't have the character to earn respect.
I was told some very interesting stories by a "well informed ACC head coach" (this was over drinks so who knows how much is actually true and how much is beer muscles being flexed) about some of BAS shenanigans while coaching out west. Mucho shady.
...and to anyone who thinks that I am just jumping on the bandwagon to slam her as she's been shown the door at UT, I did have the opportunity to see her in action for many years as an inside/close periphery observer.
Calling her a snake is insulting to snakes.
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I know a couple of people on the track staff. Good people. I hope they keep their jobs and are not uprooted based on the revolving door that is Division I athletics and a new head coach bringing in his or her cronies.
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beth will be missed and hope she moves on to something great. whether you agree or not, the team made great accomplishments this year and that is something to be proud of. stop tearing her down just because you have nothing better to do with your day.
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Commondenominator wrote:
So If you go to coaches convention, she is the one who stands up and talks the most during any debate as if she is one of the big fish. She has never won crap but you would think she was something special just watching her confidence and body language in a room full of elite coaches with big trophies. She talks down to other small college coaches and assistant coaches with a tone that is quite insulting. She overcompensate her insecurity with the bravado of condescending tone.
Yes, saw some of this behavior at the annual Coaches Conventions
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Chances the next HC is a black female?
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