He would be better off capping his mileage at 90, doing 2-3 hard workouts each week and running his easy miles at 7 or 8 minute pace. To get something out of running you actually have to raise your heart rate... 10 minute miles is far too slow for him. He might as well stay in bed or support his wife with the house chores.
To me Seth is always strange person as he is religious but he never talks about that, not that it matters but makes one think what else he leaves off to build his image... And these "forever grinders" can suck it.......
That’s my thinking as well. I try to find the minimum dose of training required for the desired result. SJD has been very open about loving long runs and high mileage, though. That’s what he enjoys so I don’t see him dialing the mileage back.
His “mad scientist” approach is frustrating to a lot of people because he isn’t objective enough to truly evaluate what’s going on. That’s the trouble with being self coached, you lose that outside perspective.
also, if he truly wants to be a mad scientist and put all theories to the test, he should hire a coach for a year and see if he does better or worse. You can’t claim to be a mad scientist if you’re leaving stones unturned.
To me Seth is always strange person as he is religious but he never talks about that, not that it matters but makes one think what else he leaves off to build his image... And these "forever grinders" can suck it.......
To me Seth is always strange person as he is religious but he never talks about that, not that it matters but makes one think what else he leaves off to build his image... And these "forever grinders" can suck it.......
Why would it be “strange” to be religious?
They didn’t say he was strange for being religious. They said it was strange that he is religious but doesnt talk about it, which isn’t true based on some of his vlogs I’ve seen as he has been open about his faith. Notably, during a few of his livestreams he has discussed it more.
I seem to remember people complaining about Seth being too religious in other threads. Seems like a lose/lose scenario. Not open enough and the religious zealots will be offended. Be more openly religious and the non-religious crowd is likely to be offended.
At the end of the day, it’s just people nitpicking a guy whose training they don’t like.
They didn’t say he was strange for being religious. They said it was strange that he is religious but doesnt talk about it, which isn’t true based on some of his vlogs I’ve seen as he has been open about his faith. Notably, during a few of his livestreams he has discussed it more.
I seem to remember people complaining about Seth being too religious in other threads. Seems like a lose/lose scenario. Not open enough and the religious zealots will be offended. Be more openly religious and the non-religious crowd is likely to be offended.
At the end of the day, it’s just people nitpicking a guy whose training they don’t like.
I actually am a huge fan of people who don't push their religious views on others and I think that it speaks well of him. There is a time and a place and I sure would not want religion thrown in with a shoe review or a training video, etc.
I also think discussing other runners training is exactly what should happen more on this site (rather than religion, politics, etc.). We don't have to agree with anyone's training philosophy, and critiquing how others train is for me a really great way of thinking about how I want to train. I think that includes all runner's plans, of all abilities. What do people think they are doing right/wrong. I don't know anything about Seth and I don't know if the assessment of his training is accurate, but I do find the conversation about how people think he should train to be great stuff.
He caught my attention a few years ago when I was searching around for running content. But it didn't take long to realize how repetitive his content is, which makes the daily vlog that much more repetitive.
Shoe reviews get clicks (what did he say about my favorite shoe?!?! What does he say about the new XYZ shoe coming out soon???) and race videos get clicks. I think he may have plateaued from a YouTube perspective unless he can be more successful with his road race results.
Doesn't the guy have a long history of stress fractures? I think it happened again in a training block 2 years ago. I guess it was while doing speed work. Maybe high altitude and high mileage training is a way for him to stay injury-free and stay consistent in what seems to be his main source of income. It's possible that if he reduced his mileage his body could tolerate speed work without breaking too.
Running 10+/min miles is fine in a Recovery Run every now and then just to move the legs a bit but why do 10+ miles at that pace? That' s hardly recovery anymore, just pointless plodding around.
Seth has the same problem that I see locally with pretty good runners who want to run faster in the marathon: they do way too much mileage, and not enough speed work. Strength is only half the equation. These are otherwise smart people who get enamored with mileage at the expense of speed.
Mile repeats are not speed work. I guess they just love the long running and impressing people with their mileage, when they could significantly improve their performances with less mileage and more speed work.
Seth has the same problem that I see locally with pretty good runners who want to run faster in the marathon: they do way too much mileage, and not enough speed work. Strength is only half the equation. These are otherwise smart people who get enamored with mileage at the expense of speed.
Mile repeats are not speed work. I guess they just love the long running and impressing people with their mileage, when they could significantly improve their performances with less mileage and more speed work.
Yeah definitely. Nobody likes to talk about how Chris Solinsky was the first American to break 27:00 in the 10k and weighted 169 lbs. Or look at ultra guys like Zach Miller who broke the JFK 50 miler record. He is not pencil thin, but not overweight. Just a regular thin-ish kind of guy. You don't need to be paper light to be fast, you just need to not have EXTRA, uncessary weight.
I bet SJD is out there running absolutely exhausted slow "easy" miles and he couldn't knock them out at 7:00 pace even if he wanted to. It's one thing to choose to run easy because you know it's the most beneficial, it's another to do it because you are too exhausted and fried to do anything but.
There's so much interesting stuff that he could do that not many youtubers are doing.... instead he doubles down on his daily boring life, drone footage, and shoe reviews. Seth, I love you babe so I'll throw out some suggestions:
interviews - enough said. Find interesting people and talk to them. It's getting tiring seeing your face and hearing your voice all the time.
training plan reviews - a 5-10 minute review of each of the major training plan (Higdon, Pfitz etc.) and the pros/cons of each, and what he would tweak.
a real in-depth series on speedwork - LT vs VO2 max work, when to do 400 vs 800 repeats, etc.
major event recaps - It'd be sweet to have someone informed give a 10-minute Sportscenter-like-recap of events like Chicago or LA. Basically point out the runners of interest and how they did, recap conditions, any unusual or unexpected results, etc.
a bunch more that I have but am going to sleep now
Seth's flock, er, viewership, steers his content. The sort of people who hang on his every word, and enjoy the views, don't care about your bullet points. He's got his niche, and some talent, but underperforms because of his inability to train correctly.
Exactly this. See his strava comments. These people know and/or care nothing for any sort of training philosophy with physiology that makes sense.
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