Jakob will never break 3:26

100% agree with this, good analysis and conclusion. Also think that all this discussion would be better next year after a WC gold and as you say SB under 3:27.5. That is to big targets that he have to hit before a world record is meaningfull to discuss. I am a Jakob/Yakob fanboy but lets be real: we dont even know if he is a better 1500m runner than Tim this season.

He was ill leading up to Monaco and still ran 3:29.2, and then ran 3:28.3 in an Olympic final. He was clearly in 3:27 shape last year.

Well yes, if he's fit most of this year and doesn't run under 3:28, then likely he wont ever break the WR. But he will likely run 3:26 or even faster, and then we're looking at potentially 3:24 by Paris 2024.

That's what im saying. Rojo, wheres my free pair of ON shoes? My downvotes are proof I bring traffic on this website.

El G was doped to the gills, but that doesn’t mean Ingy isn’t. The guy who has come closest in the last decade got popped. It will take chemistry that isn’t yet detectable to break the 1500 WR.

I dont even bother to discuss the stupid "he is good so he must be doping"question that so often is repeated here on lets run.
But I am Norwegian and I have been following Jakob closely since he was 11. So let me just say this: The WR last week is the FIRST time jakob has been doing a time trial, and where the rabbits was set up after his wishes. In no other race has this been done. Not when he did his 2 3.28.xx runs, not when he did 12.48 in the 5000 last year. Never before.
With his new position as olympic champion, he can set the conditions, he can have the races set up excactly like he wants them to("Slow" start, then gradually picking up speed). What he can do already this year is really exciting.
I am confident on a low 3.27 already this year. And close to 12.40 too.
With no big injuries the next 3 years? More WR will come, no doubt.

would mind terribly if you interrupt you?
your posts are cancerous.
you aren't funny.

you can’t fake being an interesting person.
run something incredible then come back.
and let people whack the hell out of your achievements.
dweeb.

I get what youre trying to say, but it really means absolutely nothing when you consider the presence of Timothy and McSweyn in the 1500 and the incredible talent present in the 5000 race you mentioned.

Having formal pacers isnt going to magically close the 2.33 second gap between his current pb and a WR. He's already benefitted from great conditions that lend themselves to fast times.

Undoubtedly he was in 3:27 shape last year, and not just in one meet, but for a while, and after rounds too. If he goes 3:27 low-3:26 high, that will be a sign he's still progressing and may eventually get the record. Having said that, El G for sure and likely Ngeny had 3:25 ability.

I hate that we have to be skeptical of the Africans from the 90s, Morocco, Algeria, and, Kenya. I remember watching the winner of the Bolder Boulder in a course record of something like 27:36, thinking that wasn’t humanly possible at altitude and on a not pancake flat course. Plus, Lagat had the positive epo A sample.

I would like to think Jim Ryun was clean, but how do we know he wasn’t doing HgH? Anyway, the 3:26 record is beyond bull$hit. 3:28 is probably more legit. The new shoes will certainly close the gap, but that we pretend 3:26:00 is the record is just comical.

If you dont understand the difference between being in a field of top athletes that`s competing with their own tactics, and a race where you in most of the race can stay right behind a rabbit that is running as you want them too - then I cant help you.
And he was no doubt in 3.27.5 conditions under the olympics:
His time was 3.28.32 BUT
2 rounds of qualifying same week - cost him half a second. Slowing down last 30 meters when he knew he would win - cost him 0.3 seconds. Having to run wide past the field in the first turn: 0.2 seconds.

Coevett says hold my beer...

You that were outside that era. You don't know what happened.

Everything was started by Aouita. It's him that generated the 90's 1500m runners era.

Kenyan at that time were only trying to keep tracks of the progress of North Africa.

Morcelli was really a young prodigy and it's him that pushed Moroccan to break the lines of records in that distance.

Downvote or upvote. I don't care. I don't play that game.

The truth is a truth and history of the 1500m was written in golden letters.

Now spread your lies. The discussion in this site will not help you.

This project started back in 1987. In a first in Africa and even in the world.

It's this institute that saw the rise Skah, Boutayeb, Bidouane, Hissou (ex 10.000 WR) and El G.

Tomorrow if this institute is more privatized and taken in good hands and good wish.

Similarly to what is happening in Benguerir.

You will hear things...

And having Timothy lead him through 80% of the final 500m, which no pacer would ever be able to do? Invaluable.

I already conceded that Jakob likely had sub 3:28 fitness. Claiming anything beyond that is just bad speculation.

Look at the pics of Said Aouita in this interview in 1986

and look at the shape of Noureddine Morceli in WR attempt

Time 0:30

and compare the body shapes.

These are real middle distance runners.

They get optimal result because they were gifted from their first days of birth.

I'm not going to talk about Ingerbrigsten, who I heard run 185 Km by week (?).

Is he able to replicate two or three top results by season?

This not the case of someone like El Bakkali.

They got optimal results because they were juiced to the gills. It almost cost Morceli his life as his body lost for a time the ability to produce red blood cells naturally.

Passant is admitting here that Aouita started the African doping era.

But we already knew it :