Official Seth Demoor Gasparilla Half Marathon Prediction Thread

Ha ha ha no

You'll notice in the link to one of his videos someone posted above, the description features an affiliate link for his treadmill. The only reason the treadmill stuff has showed up on his channel is that he now shills for NordicTrack.

I'm a fan of Seth, I enjoy watching ~3 videos per week. He is under a lot of pressure to deliver results and it does not seem like he is ready for his goal OTQ yet. I just hope he sets a realistic goal for the race based on current fitness, not goal or bust. From prior races he seems to have a hard time doing this, this is where a coach in your corner can give you perspective. He has pivoted his training from NYC but imo not enough. I think he puts pressure on himself to hit those mileage numbers too much and should give more credit to listening to the body and cut runs sometimes.

Disagree with his training philosophy all you want, but all the hate is silly. He has made a career out of his favorite hobby. He provides content for running obsessed hobbyjoggers like myself. I don't care for his training philosophy, I have a coach, but I enjoy seeing running views and content the same reason I come here despite all the trolls. He brings people to running. He brings hobbyjoggers to running. He is easily qualfied to coach 95% of runners and expect when he turns DGR into that he will be quite successful at it. More people running is good, even if they are only doing 30mpw and trying to break 4hr marathons. Positivity is good, the only place positivity could be considered toxic is a forum like LRC, a toxic one...(still love it)

I will be in attendance at his group run Saturday because it's fun, I'm bringing my son who runs and well do a few miles on the riverwalk with a youtube "star". We also went to see a DudePerfect show, and their positivity is refreshing as well.

I'm racing Gasparilla as well. The weather report is not favorable for a CO guy. It's supposed to be mid 60s, 90% humidity, and 6-7mph winds. Wind isn't terrible but it will be in our face from 5-9ish miles. I expect he will run about 69:00.

I enjoyed earlier videos too. But nowadays I barely scroll through the content. How many seconds of that 17minute video from yesterday was about running? Barely none.

He has good genetics. He has a phenomenal base. He could do great results but with not getting a coach and training like he does I doubt he will succeed at the marathon.

And 69 would be a terrible result for him imho.

How did sjd hurt you? The fact some of you are so worked up about a guy that will have no impact on anything you do, baffles me.

You think you're satying something new, but there is nothing in this post that counteracts anything we've been saying.

You know he's more talk athan action, you know he's content crsator, not a serious athlete, you think he can coach 95% of runenrs and will automatically be successful despite not even understanding how to train himself, and you're bringing your kid because you both think YouTube stars are cool.

You're part of the group we make fun of.

When will LetsRun realize that you are not SJDs audience? Read the comments on his videos - they are overwhelmingly positive. SJD does not claim to cater to the LetsRun crowd. He cheers on people running 4:00 in the marathon, not running 4:00 in the mile.

For his viewers he's trying to achieve a goal and that's motivating for some. For the LetsRun crowd that does not need motivation, it's not worth even stepping your toe in. SJD will fail in Gasparilla and in his marathon (which is simply a ploy to garner a larger international audience) and that's OK because it pushes the script forward for his loyal subscriber base. Why do you care that non-hobby joggers are being led on by a con man? You wouldn't want them to be on the LetsRun boards so let them be motivated in peace.

SJD prediction: 66:59

Counterpoint: why stop callimg him out on his BS just because he gets his lackeys somewhere else? He's obviously reading this board, and hopefully, taking some of the advice. If he can improve his approach, that'll help those poor fools.

Do you recall a guy named John "The Penguin" Bingham?

For those that don't, he was an out-of-shape middle aged guy that started running and became marginally healthier. He could also write pretty well. He became a guru by extolling the "joy" of running marathons at five or six hour pace. He stated that the courage to start was more important than improvement and results. He would advocate stopping at bakeries, coffee places, and donut shops while racing to reward yourself for getting that far. He also helped to grow the run a marathon for charity movement in the USA. He flew all over the country to speak at race expos, had a monthly column in "Runner's World", authored several books about "training" for marathons, and based his whole schtick on positivity and positive body image. As a result, performance oriented athletes and age-groupers often got shut out of top tier races that are sold out because the fields filled with Penguin devotees and charity groups. He was much beloved by his fans and reviled by runners repulsed by his bunk training ideas and advocation of in-run gluttony and goofing off.

What does this have to do with SJD? He is a better athlete, but he uses the same over-the-top positivity techniques, offers dubious training advice that he clearly does not understand, and is looking to cash in by creating a cult based around his personality. That doesn't hurt any individual on LRC, but many of us that love and understand what it takes to achieve personal success in this sport cringe at many of the notions he promotes that are clearly wrong and that contradict proven exercise science. Runners that emulate SJD or look to him as an expert on training are going to find themselves injured and burned out because they are following a motivational speaker with something to sell of questionable quality. This is no different than scoffing at prosperity gospel preachers or those "get rich quick!" con artists that pack thousands into a convention center to sell you their "guaranteed" house flipping/tax dodge/crypto investing classes. Someone is making money and it isn't the congregation or the seminar attendees.

More people running is a good thing. Let's just make sure that people are training right and respecting the sport, not making a mockery of it.

yeah I think if you come down from the cold, dry air around Denver, and you are plopped into a humid sunny race in florida, the heat effects might more than cancel out the altitude gains. You just need to slow down if you move up in altitude, but dealing with humidity you aren't habituated to isn't so straightforward. But he's a small guy, so I imagine thermoregulation issues are just not so bad for him.

1:08:48

His halfway split is 34:18, for a 1:08:35 ETA.

Wow! 6 Pages of messages on LRC for a guy running a half marathon. This board is really into SJD even though they make claim that they aren't.

He is well out in front.

BTW, Dathan Ritzenhein set the course record of 1:03:16 in 2015 at the age of 32. Three-time Summer Olympian Jen Rhines holds the female course record of 1:12:34, set in 2015 at the age of 40

Where are you tracking?

Strava has 1:09:04

01:09:07 according to Strava...

1:08:56 FTW

They gonna be flying the "W" at home with some Andy's...
About what I thought he'd run.. pretty crazy to go from a mountain snowstorm to 83-degrees and sunny! 67% humidity.

I feel like it could have been worse, so he'll be somewhat pleased with this result, especially after getting the win and the $2000 check.

Dang $2,000??? That's crazy money. I'm going there next year.