Women's NCAA Indoor Distance preview! Tuohy, Mccabe, Chmiel, Wayment! Will records be set?

7empest wrote:

Ezrun wrote:

Dude your going through starliper withdrawal, its clouded your judgment... what's her status anyway?.... but tuohy was Killin it at 1500m last year.... my money would be on tuohy from 1k through 3k... chmiel might still have her at 5k but tuohy is getting there.... anyway tuohy is a 1500m runner... she was the best on the team besides hennes

Can you please explain how she was killing it in the 1500m last year? She did not even make it to the finals at regionals and did not make it to Eugene?

This funny. Or maybe what Astro says is right. You just cannot help yourself from not saying something negative about her. Even when people don't mention her name. I don't know what "killing it" means - probably something different to everybody. But for sure during the Spring, she was running her 1500s in a time that equates to running a mile faster than 4:36. (Not meant as a diss of 4:36 or anyone who ran that time!!)

Somebody saying Starliper withdrawal? That's a pretty insulting statement. And you say "Can you please explain how she was killing it in the 1500m last year?" is a negative? That is a calm fact based question. Saying that the best high school runner of all time is killing it, would at the very least mean top 5. She didn't even qualify.

Flotrack fanboy wrote:

Somebody saying Starliper withdrawal? That's a pretty insulting statement. And you say "Can you please explain how she was killing it in the 1500m last year?" is a negative? That is a calm fact based question. Saying that the best high school runner of all time is killing it, would at the very least mean top 5. She didn't even qualify.

She ran three strong times for a 19 year old! 412,413, 414, those r 3 top 20 all time u20 times... her 412 is number 7 all time American u20....

The next closest u20 girls were a thing mu at 416, and then 418 and 420....

Compared to her age she was Killin it....

Now she ran 854... u20 record... that's a 410 1500m, maybe faster... and oh yeah her best event last year was 1500m

412 1500m was by far her best mark compared to 3k and 5k last year.... so that means she is best at that distance, but trains at higher mileage for cross....

She will go sub 405 in college maybe sub 4..... she's that good...

There are no age groups in college. Mu wasn't running age group stuff at the Olympics. Tuohy ran well in the 1500 but not killing it.

In women's distance running the ages 18-20 is often very tricky and there is a definite developmental gap between a runner in their teens and early to mid twenties. The key is getting through it in good health.

NJ NY wrote:

There are no age groups in college. Mu wasn't running age group stuff at the Olympics. Tuohy ran well in the 1500 but not killing it.

Ummm... grade? Eligibility left in years? Those r roughly the same as age group....... so compared to freshman she was Killin it.... she was top 2 to 5 all time freshman 1500m.... probably 2 or 3? .... and again way better at that distance than other ones....

The only reason you think she wasn't killing it was because she was so good in high school. If any other girl came into college and ran the third fastest all-time freshman mark in the 1500m you wouldn't be saying she wasn't good at that distance.

Don't really understand why ppl insist on thinking of Tuohy as a miler. They focused on the 1500m last year likely bc she was still coming back from injury and closing speed is a weakness for her that can be worked on without a bug aerobic base. While 4;12 is great for her and any college frosh, it undersells her true talent at longer distances.

Cranny, Cain, Efraimson, Aragon, K Murphy, and I think even Rainsberger all ran fast than that as juniors and seniors in high school. None of them however ran 15:3X as Tuohy did indoors (and is surely in shape to run much faster than now). KT is in 15:20 shape as a true sophomore and that is what is actually exciting about her.

How about Mu? Check the other thread to see how good they think she will be at 1500.

fghrunner wrote:

Don't really understand why ppl insist on thinking of Tuohy as a miler. They focused on the 1500m last year likely bc she was still coming back from injury and closing speed is a weakness for her that can be worked on without a bug aerobic base. While 4;12 is great for her and any college frosh, it undersells her true talent at longer distances.

Cranny, Cain, Efraimson, Aragon, K Murphy, and I think even Rainsberger all ran fast than that as juniors and seniors in high school. None of them however ran 15:3X as Tuohy did indoors (and is surely in shape to run much faster than now). KT is in 15:20 shape as a true sophomore and that is what is actually exciting about her.

Disagree! 414 is just as good as 1537... as well as 901.... and considering half the year she trains for cross-country she's doing a lot more distance training so I think if anything it shows she's probably better at around the 1500 or 3K

And the Mu thread was crazy cuz the guy said easily! and destroy! the American record. And that no one else would stand a chance.... and Tuohy is 7 seconds roughly ahead of Mu now, maybe more so there is that too

FL State trio of Skyring, Ryan, Churchill go 4:36.75, 4:36.76. 4:37.41 at Clemson today. DMR follows in about 2 1/2 hours.

https://results.adkinstrak.com/meets/12078/events/403838/live

The reason that people think of Tuohy as a miler is because she is a powerful runner. She has very strong legs and a strong looking physique - qualities that a lot of top milers have. I personally believe she’s more of a 3000/5000 runner.

Folks are also making too much of Mu running the mile at Millrose and they’re going to pile on when she doesn’t win. Has anyone considered that she’s probably running the mile to get used to longer sustained efforts in preparation for the long-term? Like maybe something more important- ie, the 800 in Eugene? I really don’t expect Mu to be a threat in the mile but she will be respectable and surprise a lot of people.

She did run 458 as a 7th grader, off of mostly soccer background. So it seems like she has a lot of natural ability at the mile. At the end of the day it'll just be what distance she is best at and that's best for her

Mu is a day away from a faster mile PR than Tuohy.

harvard of the tropics wrote:

Mu is a day away from a faster mile PR than Tuohy.

Thank you for your profound analysis. I suppose you made that analysis just to hate on Tuohy. Your comment says more about you than it says about either Tuohy or Mu.

Nope. It said more about you that you had to bring Mu into the thread. I merely responded to you if you care to reread your post and my response.

Mackay 8:54 today. That is some serious range.

elephant in the room wrote:

Mackay 8:54 today. That is some serious range.

The race at BU has not yet run, right? Her entry is a 8:55 seed time. Or, maybe I am confused?

FastTuohy wrote:

elephant in the room wrote:

Mackay 8:54 today. That is some serious range.

The race at BU has not yet run, right? Her entry is a 8:55 seed time. Or, maybe I am confused?

https://www.lancertiming.com/results/winter22/terrier-Friday/index.html

there it is 8:54.45

everyone's dad wrote:

Nope. It said more about you that you had to bring Mu into the thread. I merely responded to you if you care to reread your post and my response.

Mu was already in the thread before my post, bright boy. Perhaps you’re the one that should learn how to read and comprehend.