Truck Stop wrote:
I know it comes off as arrogant but I agree with Gjert. Jakob is only 20 years old. He’s just beginning his prime. Tim is not the dominant self he was two years ago. A lot has changed in two years and Jakob could not lose for at least a decade.
The only thing that play now in favor of Jakob is his endurance.
Despite what he has donne in the Olympic final, he is not a real kicker.
Passant wrote:
Truck Stop wrote:
I know it comes off as arrogant but I agree with Gjert. Jakob is only 20 years old. He’s just beginning his prime. Tim is not the dominant self he was two years ago. A lot has changed in two years and Jakob could not lose for at least a decade.
The only thing that play now in favor of Jakob is his endurance.
Despite what he has donne in the Olympic final, he is not a real kicker.
If you start f*cking off now, you would have a head start. people don't have the time or the crayons to explain things to you. Bugger off.
Well.......in this Olympic final Cheruyiot act like the rabbit for Jacob to triumph on. Won`t be the same in Diamond league and then Tim will have an advantage again. I guess Jakob will see just Tim`s back over the finish several times more.Tim is faster over 800m than Jakob and when he is in top shape I guess he will beat Jakob again.
bottom dweller wrote:
If you start f*cking off now, you would have a head start. people don't have the time or the crayons to explain things to you. Bugger off.
Then feel free to dream.
Your little prodigy was outkicked in a 1500m less than one month ago.
@AthleticsWeekly
Sifan Hassan's last 100m in her 10,000m was also faster than Jakob Ingebrigtsen's last 100m in his 1500m.
https://twitter.com/AthleticsWeekly/status/1424036090114105350
Passant wrote:
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Sifan Hassan's last 100m in her 10,000m was also faster than Jakob Ingebrigtsen's last 100m in his 1500m.
https://twitter.com/AthleticsWeekly/status/1424036090114105350
So she ran the last 100m a 1/2 second faster than Potato Tim did, and 0.4 seconds faster than Cole 'lightening' Hocker?
How fast did she run the last 100m of the 1500m final you dullard?
Also, according to the World Athletics official splits, Jakob ran the last 100m in 13.6, which was faster than anybody in the top 6 and presumably faster than anybody in the race. Jakob also ran the last 200m in 27.1 which was similarly the fastest last 200.
Jacob 3:14.7 3:28.3 13.6
Tim 3:14.9 3:29.0 14.1
Kerr 3:15.4 3:29.1 13.7
Kipsang 3:15.3 3:29.6 14.3
Mechaal 3:16.4 3:30.8 14.4
Hocker 3:17.5 3:31.4 13.9
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10776737SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:
"Well.......in this Olympic final Cheruyiot act like the rabbit for Jacob to triumph on. Won`t be the same in Diamond league and then Tim will have an advantage again. I guess Jakob will see just Tim`s back over the finish several times more.Tim is faster over 800m than Jakob and when he is in top shape I guess he will beat Jakob again."
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Don´t you understand that Jakob beat Tim BECAUSE JAKOB IS ONE MORE LEVEL UP FROM LAST YEAR?
Tim didn´t underperform (he ran slightly faster than in Doha 2019) but Jakob ran more than 3 seconds faster than in Doha.
And Jakob raced to win. If he had run for a good time he would probably have run well under 3:28.
And it will be even worse for Tim for next year when Jakob has put yet another layer on his aerobic foundation.
Did you get it SUPERIOR COACH?
I'll answer that for you. In the women's 1500m final, Hassan ran the last 200m in 32.0 and the last 100m in 16.8. In a time of 3:55.8
objectiveobserver wrote:
If he had run for a good time he would probably have run well under 3:28.
Or ended being outkicked.
Wait for the future pressure and dont invent excuses like asthma or illness.
Passant wrote:
bottom dweller wrote:
If you start f*cking off now, you would have a head start. people don't have the time or the crayons to explain things to you. Bugger off.
Then feel free to dream.
Your little prodigy was outkicked in a 1500m less than one month ago.
my prodigy? I'm not taking the scenic route with Hocker. kindly go pleasure yourself with a cactus, kook.
SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:
Well.......in this Olympic final Cheruyiot act like the rabbit for Jacob to triumph on. Won`t be the same in Diamond league and then Tim will have an advantage again. I guess Jakob will see just Tim`s back over the finish several times more.Tim is faster over 800m than Jakob and when he is in top shape I guess he will beat Jakob again.
Actually when they run fast it is not about 800 speed. It is the one who has most fuel left in the tank, i.e. lowest lactic acid, that wins. We'll se 13 days from now in Eugene. Ands then you can argue that Tim is not in top shape if he loses.
SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:
Well.......in this Olympic final Cheruyiot act like the rabbit for Jacob to triumph on. Won`t be the same in Diamond league and then Tim will have an advantage again. I guess Jakob will see just Tim`s back over the finish several times more.Tim is faster over 800m than Jakob and when he is in top shape I guess he will beat Jakob again.
Doesn't Tim pretty much rabbit Jakob in every Diamond League race? Do you expect Tim to sit on Jakob's shoulder next time?
In Doha 2019, Tim ran the last 300m in 41.1
In Tokyo, off a slightly faster pace, he ran the last 300m in 41.7 to finish inside his time from Doha.
In Tokyo, off a slightly faster pace than Tim ran in Doha, Jakob ran the last 300m in 40.8 = 0.3 seconds faster than Tim in Doha.
Clearly Jakob has much improved his finishing speed.
That was evident to see earlier in the season when he kicked clear in the last 100m in terrible conditions at Gateshead.
Of course you are right it`s about who has most fuel in the tank in a fast race, but in this Olympic race potato Tim act like the rabbit who will be a special hired pacemaker in coming Diamond League races . Then the race will be different and Tim with more strength and speed left. Anyway it gonna be thrilling to watch . :) Cheers!
SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:
Of course you are right it`s about who has most fuel in the tank in a fast race, but in this Olympic race potato Tim act like the rabbit who will be a special hired pacemaker in coming Diamond League races . Then the race will be different and Tim with more strength and speed left. Anyway it gonna be thrilling to watch . :) Cheers!
Cheers :) It will be a very fast race I think. At least both of them sub 3:46. Yes, it is going to be thrilling. May the best man win.
SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:
Well.......in this Olympic final Cheruyiot act like the rabbit for Jacob to triumph on. Won`t be the same in Diamond league and then Tim will have an advantage again. I guess Jakob will see just Tim`s back over the finish several times more.Tim is faster over 800m than Jakob and when he is in top shape I guess he will beat Jakob again.
Superior 800 speed doesn't matter much if you are gassed after 1400.
Passant wrote:
Truck Stop wrote:
I know it comes off as arrogant but I agree with Gjert. Jakob is only 20 years old. He’s just beginning his prime. Tim is not the dominant self he was two years ago. A lot has changed in two years and Jakob could not lose for at least a decade.
The only thing that play now in favor of Jakob is his endurance.
Despite what he has donne in the Olympic final, he is not a real kicker.
He ran 3:28 for goodness sakes and out kicked the world champion. Gone are the days of kicking to 3:50 after yogging the first kilometer.
I guarantee that he would of won the 5k and 10k had he done those events instead. We’re seeing the beginning of the GOAT track distance runner. Get excited!
Weirdly, all these guys, including Jakob, haven't proved capable of running sub-3:30 without Tim in the race.
^ What I mean is, it'll be interesting to see how fast they can go if Tim decides to sit out the season.
They just another rabbit for two laps.
Folgermed wrote:
Source: interview with Norwegian tv-channel (tv-Norge).
Do you think this is accurate?
Only if they dodge each other a ton the next few years. Think those two could flip in any race. Will change my mind if they race a few more times this summer & Jakob wins them all.