Renato Canova wrote:
So, I repeat : the biggest problem in Kenya is a problem of organization. If we are able to do this, we can have a lot of results, using ugali and milk, not some drug like many idiots continue to think among the readers of letsrun.
I am happy to also come back today, and see this long posting by Renato.
Also your honesty and clarity gives me smiles and a chuckle.
:)
Good to have you back Renato, I always look forward to your posts ...
Tinman, please shoot me an e-mail. I enjoy your posts and would like to discuss marathon training in depth.
To Renato Canova, thanks for the insights. Please keep them coming.
Renato, because there are no championships next year, what will your athletes' focus be?
I think 2006 is an excellent year for chasing personal bests and world records.
In your group you have people who can take a WR or fast time at every single distance:
Bungei and Mutua in the 800
Bashir can come close to the WR in the mile.
Shaheen can go after WR's in the 3,000, 3,000 SC, and 5,000. Maybe Kwalia also, if he still races (what did he do this year?)
Kemboi and Hassan can go after the 10,000.
Rutto and a bunch of other marathoners can go for the road marks.
[quote]College Guy wrote:
Tinman, please shoot me an e-mail. I enjoy your posts and would like to discuss marathon training in depth.
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Jack, don't give me athlete that I don't coach, please. Bungei is with my friend Gianni Ghidini, also coach of Yiampoy and Kamel (Konchellah). Rutto is with Dieter Hoger. The fact that I know very well how some other athlete trains, doesn't mean that I'm his coach.
Mutua and Kwalia had, this year, a lot of health problems.
Joseph (that in any case is no more a my athlete : already last year I pushed him to Ghidini) had a strange virus, that reduced completely his muscle strength. Now is resting, for recovering energy, but nobody could understand what happened.
About Kwalia, he had problems in his back, and till now is not perfectly ok. He will go for some investigation in Doha at the beginning of October (already is there), and we will see if the problem is serious or not.
Regarding Shaheen, he will compete essentially in flat distances. May be that he run World Indoor, of sure he will run cross. The plan is to try the WR of steeple only once,running only twice the event (the other time is the World Cup for Asia). I want to see him very close 3:30 in 1500m and under 7:25 in 3000m.
Kemboi had this year his "full" of bad luck, with the injury during the race in WCh (nailed by Zersenay Tadesse with 4 laps to go) that forced him to stay 4 days with a pair of crutches (and he ran 26:51 in Bruxelles after 4 days with crutches, one week only walking, two days jogging and one workout with training shoes in St.Moritz with 12 x 1000m rec. 1:30 starting from 2:52 and finishing in 2:36), and the last fall in the shower 5 days before WHMCh, that he had the goal to win.
He is one of the best talent I ever saw, almost the same level of Shaheen. If everything will be ok, he can try to beat WHMR and, why not, the current 26:17 of Bekele.
You forgot Dorcus Inzikuru, that, like Shaheen, will run flat events. But she has to compete in steeple some more time : Commonwealth, African Champs and World Cup are the goals, together with 4:00 in 1500m, 8:32 in 3000 and 14:35 in 5000 (of course, under 9:10 in steeple).
But you can put your attention to the following names :
Jamal Bilal Salem, that can run steeple under 8:00 -
Besluke Kiplagat, 17 years, that can do like Brimin Kipruto two years ago -
Mubarak Shami, that can run under 2:07 in Marathon and beat the WR of 25 / 30k -
Rita Jeptoo, that can run Marathon under 2:23 -
Philip Manyim, ready for running under 2:07 after winning Berlin.
Renato,
It seems like Gianni Ghidini coaches more of the middle distance guys. Could you explain to us his use of periodization with his 800/1500m guys?
Renato Canova wrote:
Jack, don't give me athlete that I don't coach, please. Bungei is with my friend Gianni Ghidini, also coach of Yiampoy and Kamel (Konchellah). Rutto is with Dieter Hoger. The fact that I know very well how some other athlete trains, doesn't mean that I'm his coach.
Mutua and Kwalia had, this year, a lot of health problems.
Joseph (that in any case is no more a my athlete : already last year I pushed him to Ghidini) had a strange virus, that reduced completely his muscle strength. Now is resting, for recovering energy, but nobody could understand what happened.
About Kwalia, he had problems in his back, and till now is not perfectly ok. He will go for some investigation in Doha at the beginning of October (already is there), and we will see if the problem is serious or not.
Regarding Shaheen, he will compete essentially in flat distances. May be that he run World Indoor, of sure he will run cross. The plan is to try the WR of steeple only once,running only twice the event (the other time is the World Cup for Asia). I want to see him very close 3:30 in 1500m and under 7:25 in 3000m.
Kemboi had this year his "full" of bad luck, with the injury during the race in WCh (nailed by Zersenay Tadesse with 4 laps to go) that forced him to stay 4 days with a pair of crutches (and he ran 26:51 in Bruxelles after 4 days with crutches, one week only walking, two days jogging and one workout with training shoes in St.Moritz with 12 x 1000m rec. 1:30 starting from 2:52 and finishing in 2:36), and the last fall in the shower 5 days before WHMCh, that he had the goal to win.
He is one of the best talent I ever saw, almost the same level of Shaheen. If everything will be ok, he can try to beat WHMR and, why not, the current 26:17 of Bekele.
You forgot Dorcus Inzikuru, that, like Shaheen, will run flat events. But she has to compete in steeple some more time : Commonwealth, African Champs and World Cup are the goals, together with 4:00 in 1500m, 8:32 in 3000 and 14:35 in 5000 (of course, under 9:10 in steeple).
But you can put your attention to the following names :
Jamal Bilal Salem, that can run steeple under 8:00 -
Besluke Kiplagat, 17 years, that can do like Brimin Kipruto two years ago -
Mubarak Shami, that can run under 2:07 in Marathon and beat the WR of 25 / 30k -
Rita Jeptoo, that can run Marathon under 2:23 -
Philip Manyim, ready for running under 2:07 after winning Berlin.
Renato, thanks for the great info.
Sorry about the errors. You coach so many great runners that it is very difficult to keep track of what great runners you DON'T coach!
That is too bad too hear about Kwalia. I remember when he ran 7:28 behind Kipchoge. I would love to see Shaheen go after the world record in the 5,000m against Bekele, Sihine, or El Guerrouj. The guy ran 12:48 in his first serious attempt and outkicked El Guerrouj to boot. There are very few people who have ever beaten El Guerrouj, and fewer still have run 12:48.
Renato,
it would be very interesting if you could give some information about Wilfred Bungei and Yiampoy´s training?
I guess you and Gianni Ghidini work a lot together and speak about your athletes training?
I would like to know about
- what kind of workouts they do during the different training phases?
- what kind of strength and speed training?
Great if you could give some insight!
+1
I find it fascinating that in 2005, Canova was pleased training a world class athlete to a sub-2:09 marathon and that sub-2:07 was "next-level."
My, how times evolve.