The Obesification of the U.S.

I haven't watched this video yet, however, I know at some point and probably still, Coca Cola and its various names was supporting school health programs...

Should be illegal.

Wet Coast wrote:

I haven't watched this video yet, however, I know at some point and probably still, Coca Cola and its various names was supporting school health programs...

Should be illegal.

Watch the video. It is criminal what these companies are doing to the young and the poor, those most vulnerable. We might as well allow children to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol from year one or two, or provide food stamps for buying cigs and booze.

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

YMMV wrote:

The U.S. government spends billions of dollars to promote consumption of toxic junk food by the poor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ezg_DqUSQs&t=0s

We also created the USDA grade system for the beef industry to convince the public that the way we totally screwed up cattle equals quality.

The beef industry is the big loser in this shell game. Beef consumption is almost half what it was in the 1970s. No "scalable" profit in a cow, compared to the subsidized commodities.

After gaining weight every year it seemed and being obese for years I knew that I had to make a change because my desk job, no outside activity, rising blood pressure, and 240 to 250 cholesterol level were going to shorten my life. So in my mid-40's my wife and I improved our diet, counted and cut calories, and exercised. I started walking 2 to 4 miles a day at a brisk pace and cut calories to 1200 to 1500 a day. I lost about 45 lbs in 90 days. I also eventually added biking 10 to 15 miles two or three times a week. After 2 years I switched to running 25 to 50 miles a week. Over time I brought my weight down another 10 lbs. I was fat when I was in grade school. My aunt fat shamed my mother (her sister) about her letting me get fat. Her kids (my cousins) were older, played sports, and were at a healthy weight. Once I started playing sports in 5th grade I lost the weight. I stayed skinny through high school during which I stayed skinny running cross country and track but I did gain probably 20 or more pounds during high school. After high school I told myself I was too busy with college to exercise regular. I got a desk job after college, got married a few years later, and then started putting on the weight. While I got fit and stayed fit 4 of my aunt's 5 children got married became obese or morbidly obese. I still struggle with some bad eating habits but have been able to keep my weight down with running.

Never did I realize that a pandemic would come along and end the life of so many under people under 60 who where obese. Kristin Urquiza, who spoke at the DNC, claimed her 65 year old father was healthy--had no underlying conditions. Looking at recent photos I am sorry to say it appears his weight was an underlying condition. So many of the Covid-19 victims under 60 who appear on the news were obese or morbidly obese. When shown in family photos we can see that typically most or all of the family is obese. In some cases we are told multiple family members died of Covid-19. It really helped me to have my wife working with me to eat healthy and exercise daily.

Regarding fat shaming, I just noticed this documentary on ABC.

dullard wrote:

Very easy to look at the nutritional information instead of just reading the marketing on the front.

There's a big difference between theory and practice. In theory everyone could eat according to their individual metabolic rates and activity levels, but in practice people rationalize their gluttonous ways partly by buying into marketing.

But again, sugar is the problem, and the sugar lobby will make sure it remains a problem.

letsrunsupportsepo wrote:

its because people become more and more lazy and because the large majority of the population is fat or obese it becomes more and more accepted.

Some obese internet activist who thinks he/she/it is beautiful is only an extreme symptom for that. The worse thing is your overweight or obese family that only sees fat people around them and things they have an acceptable weight.

China is much better about this. If you are a little overweight people will actively tell you that you are getting fat, unhealthy and not handsome.

And it works!

I am almost always impressed by what I see in the grocery basket of Asians versus what is in most other carts. Often I see nothing but healthy fresh vegetables in the grocery baskets of Asians while I see many processed foods in other carts and few fresh fruits and vegetables. The Asians typically do not look obese or even over weight.

The below is from the CDC:

Non-Hispanic blacks (49.6%) had the highest age-adjusted prevalence of obesity, followed by Hispanics (44.8%), non-Hispanic whites (42.2%) and non-Hispanic Asians (17.4%).

YMMV wrote:

The U.S. government spends billions of dollars to promote consumption of toxic junk food by the poor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ezg_DqUSQs&t=0s

YMMV complains about money promoting junk and then posts a video from pseudoscience-peddling millionaire snake-oil salesman Mark Hyman.

Buy his detox supplements and lose 2 lbs a day, better than gastric bypass, only costs $25 per day.

YMMV started this thread with a link to a kook with a suspended medical license and now this. smh.

Sure, it's about lifestyle. But the world you live in determines what lifestyles are easier to follow.

People haven't changed much. But both their society and their supermarkets have.

It is the collective unconscious despair of humanity being made manifest. Societal problems are rampant, whether it be pandemics, racism, our house of cards economic system, pedophilic elites, unemployment, unholy obsession with GDP, the instability in the middle east, climate change etc., there's a lot going on. Bad stuff has always happened but due to lack of information access it felt tangible. WWII was horrible, but there was a very real and tangible enemy to fight against. In 2020 everyone knows about every problem in the world but is relatively powerless to do anything about them, and our minds (and physical health along with them) are slowly collapsing under the weight.

dullard wrote:

Doesn't the bible say something about gluttony? And yet the states with the most bible bashers have the most fatties.

There are lot of contradictions between the Bible thumpers lifestyle and what their Good Book says.

Just ask Neil Young.

Bunch of geniuses in this thread.

sugar tits wrote:

YMMV wrote:

The U.S. government spends billions of dollars to promote consumption of toxic junk food by the poor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ezg_DqUSQs&t=0s

YMMV complains about money promoting junk and then posts a video from pseudoscience-peddling millionaire snake-oil salesman Mark Hyman.

Buy his detox supplements and lose 2 lbs a day, better than gastric bypass, only costs $25 per day.

YMMV started this thread with a link to a kook with a suspended medical license and now this. smh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0g357PXcAETuYS?format=jpg&name=medium

Nothing like a slithery-snake anon troll vegan to spew forth lies and BS on any thread I post. To my most loyal and adoring fan: yes I love you, sorry it didn't work out so well in your life.

BMI is a terrible indicator of fitness or even body fat percentage. As a blunt instrument yes, it is correct in showing the US getting fatter over the years. But individually, it takes no account for muscle mass or bone density. I used to be a runner and now have been a hard core lifter for years, but still run and cycle for cardio. I'm not a gorilla but carry good muscle mass. Probably could lose 10 pounds (stomach is flat in a tee....no visible abs...I'm older) but any more than 10 pounds and I'd be burning muscle. My BMI: 29.5 (borderline obese). Ridiculous.

dullard wrote:

Doesn't the bible say something about gluttony? And yet the states with the most bible bashers have the most fatties.

True. But I remember back in the 1980s the libs up here were bashing "stupid, fat rednecks." Fast forward to 2020, and the average social justice warrior in Somerville and Cambridge is carrying about 25 lbs more girth than the redneck of yesteryear.

1980's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjyluxYyRjw

Now ,

https://danceswithfat.org/

Not that I am saying that special K, or even a 250 calorie breakfast is the solution. But people didn't want to be fat.

Americans want free or inexpensive health care? The solution is simple - return the US to the 1990 map.

YMMV wrote:

Nothing like a slithery-snake anon troll vegan to spew forth lies and BS on any thread I post. To my most loyal and adoring fan: yes I love you, sorry it didn't work out so well in your life.

Vegans are nuttier than keto krazies. Not sure I've ever eaten a vegan meal.

Not sure why you posted Sean Baker's license. As far as I know, he has not been mentioned in this thread.

Name one lie that I've posted.

There are many factors that contribute to weight gain:

Total calories consumed

Macronutrient ratio

Micronutrient intake (how much sugar vs fibre vs complex carbs, how much vegetables vs processed foods, etc)

Meal timing (chronobiology)

Stress

Drug use (alcohol, cigarettes, pot, etc)

Quantity of sleep

Quality of sleep

Medications

Genetics

Exercise.

Pretending it is just 1 or 2 of these is kind of bizarre, when pretty much all of them have change drastically in the last 100 years.