Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

eric a blair wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

So far he's gotten rid of the stupid climate deal and rolled back some other ridiculous regulations, and the economy is doing great as a result. Contractors are bidding on the wall construction. That's two more things than I would have gotten out of Jeb!/Hillary and that's why you're complaining vague things like "progress" and "Russia" and not something tangible.

the economy is doing no better and no worse than it was under Obama. You are being seriously stupid if you said the Obama economy was bad and the Trump economy is 'great.'

Seriously. You are being really, really, stupid if you think that.

Do you think that?

Seriously, Trumps poor management IS starting to negatively effect some industries that do trade overseas.

Don't kid yourself, the economy is not doing well because he got rid of the climate deal and reg rollbacks, it was already doing well and we are lucky he doesn't have enough reach to fvck that one up. On climate change, you can argue the rollback is a net financial win for the country, but if that is important then we shouldn't build a wall that will cost multiples more than what we pay into the climate deal. The wall, if it doesn't just become another broken promise, is going to cost us a fortune and add to our debt... and it will do very little to prevent continued immigration flow.

Can you please address his failure to push through legislation? Do you blame congress/senate? Don't you find it unacceptable that so far a party in full control of government can't get anything big done? Can you please address the almost daily ridicule he and his administration receive and his inability to lead? Can you explain why his cabinet is a revolving door, with a flow of complete duds in and out?

If you are hanging on to climate rollback and deregulation as arguments for Trump's overall success, not only are you cherry-picking things that will likely be irrelevant, you are completely ignoring all the massive fvck ups. At least try weigh in on the bad as well.

eric a blair wrote:

Is that the first time HardLoper has revealed his true identity on this thread? I'm not sure on that.

But if he trolls under other names, that is massively lame.

He is one of the top pro-Trump trolls. Rarely does he post under his real name here. He was the #1 troll going after flagpole.

TroLLminator wrote:

Don't kid yourself, the economy is not doing well because he got rid of the climate deal...

Trump failed to get rid of the climate deal. Many states are continuing on their own. Also, the major of the world is continuing. Why, because it is a smart business deal that creates new tech/science jobs.

Heavy Duty wrote:

eric a blair wrote:

Is that the first time HardLoper has revealed his true identity on this thread? I'm not sure on that.

But if he trolls under other names, that is massively lame.

He is one of the top pro-Trump trolls. Rarely does he post under his real name here. He was the #1 troll going after flagpole.

I don't follow this thread page-by-page but that was the first time I can recall him posting under that identity.

He posts under other identities, so does his pal jamin. Just look for the new threads about the topics in this forum they try to create that are short-lived. HardLoper and jamin are so hardcore pro-Trump that they are obviously trolling. Decide for yourself whether they are pro-Trump or trolls.

We are officially out of the Paris accord, which is at least symbolic of our country's unwillingness to continue investing in alternative energy sources. I know the states are continuing their own and companies are holding themselves to some standards as well. It is just pathetic that we started that accord and now that it has picked up and the investment side is looking excellent we are at least politically trying to go backwards and not participate. The main problem competition-wise is that other countries sponsor and subsidize promising efforts. We won't be seeing that here which puts us at a significant disadvantage.

Not rid of wrote:

TroLLminator wrote:

Don't kid yourself, the economy is not doing well because he got rid of the climate deal...

Trump failed to get rid of the climate deal. Many states are continuing on their own. Also, the major of the world is continuing. Why, because it is a smart business deal that creates new tech/science jobs.

I don't think that is true - I think Trump said that he plans to pull us out. But it hasn't happened yet, and the dude believes in nothing but younger wives, so maybe he'll forget he said that.

TroLLminator wrote:

We are officially out of the Paris accord,

Not rid of wrote:

Trump failed to get rid of the climate deal. Many states are continuing on their own. Also, the major of the world is continuing. Why, because it is a smart business deal that creates new tech/science jobs.

Actually, no. You need to read this: http://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2017/06/states-continuing-climate-fight

TroLLminator wrote:

We are officially out of the Paris accord, which is at least symbolic of our country's unwillingness to continue investing in alternative energy sources. I know the states are continuing their own and companies are holding themselves to some standards as well. It is just pathetic that we started that accord and now that it has picked up and the investment side is looking excellent we are at least politically trying to go backwards and not participate. The main problem competition-wise is that other countries sponsor and subsidize promising efforts. We won't be seeing that here which puts us at a significant disadvantage.

Not rid of wrote:

Trump failed to get rid of the climate deal. Many states are continuing on their own. Also, the major of the world is continuing. Why, because it is a smart business deal that creates new tech/science jobs.

John Kelly is running the show now. The old idea of letting trump be trump is gone.

Trump has given up and Kelly will take control. No more crazy tweets from Trump.

TroLLminator wrote: On climate change, you can argue the rollback is a net financial win for the country

There is a false assumption that compliance "costs" something. There is also the assumption exiting is immediate. It is not. There is also the assumption that non-compliance confers some advantage. Which, is not particularly true for a country like the U.S.

It remains an opportunity to talk about Trump.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

TroLLminator wrote: On climate change, you can argue the rollback is a net financial win for the country

There is a false assumption that compliance "costs" something. There is also the assumption exiting is immediate. It is not. There is also the assumption that non-compliance confers some advantage. Which, is not particularly true for a country like the U.S.

It remains an opportunity to talk about Trump.

The accords are about creating jobs that support the future low-environmental impact world economy. That is what many American states, cities and business, in both red and blue areas, are continuing to support the accords, and comply with them. West Virginia would be much better off if the US helped retrain the coal-people to work in providing goods and services in that support low-environmental impact. Coal is a dead industry. Nothing will change that. Time to reboot those people to become productive in the new world.

* My friend that is off the Grid and living in Montana wanted me to ask the following?

Did Obama wire tap the White House?

Is Obama listening daily to the White House conservations and leaking information?

Obama and the IRS attacked Christian Conservatives, why wouldn't he wire tap the White House?

Trump_wins wrote:

* My friend that is off the Grid and living in Montana wanted me to ask the following?

Did Obama wire tap the White House?

Is Obama listening daily to the White House conservations and leaking information?

Obama and the IRS attacked Christian Conservatives, why wouldn't he wire tap the White House?

this is where the rubber hits the road - if enough repubs refuse to believe truths, the nation is doomed.

Not just the ignorant voters - the politicos too. Repubs can't handle truth and data. It's bizarre.

Trump_wins wrote:

* My friend that is off the Grid and living in Montana wanted me to ask the following?

Did Obama wire tap the White House?

Is Obama listening daily to the White House conservations and leaking information?

Obama and the IRS attacked Christian Conservatives, why wouldn't he wire tap the White House?

The most likely answer is that trusted Jared is source of the leaks. He already tossed Donald Jr under the bus--he actually tossed daddy Trump under the bus. He has a separate lawyer from Ivanka's to defend himself against Trump's misdeeds. Jared is making a huge powerplay. He is ready to replace Ivanka for a younger girl--just like Trump has done. Just look at current photos of Ivana--Ivanka's mommy--to see what her future look will be.

Cory Booker putting forward an eminently reasonable drug bill. Cue the hysterics from beer-bellied conservatives.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/01/cory-booker-puts-marijuana-legalization-at-the-center-of-his-new-racial-justice-bil/?utm_term=.85dce881b412

Stock market jumped when the climate withdraw was announced

It was doing okay the last couple years under Obama but could have been better. It's doing better this year than it was though.

Illegal immigration is already dropping substantially (and it appears to actually be down, we're not "deporting" the same guy 20 times)

Nope. That's the norm these days and I completely expected it (remember, low standards). Neglecting to repeal Obamacare is completely intentional, I'll give him a few years to improve healthcare.

Hiring people is easy, firing the right people is the more important quality that's lacking in government

Listen Trollminator,Your logic is flawed my friend. You can't argue that Trump's economy is doing well because of what Obama did. I can argue that Obama's economy was pure luck and would have happened irregardless of any policies he and congress created. After all, the economy of the US has been operating in cycles forever.Obama could not pass legislation either. He ruled by decree. This is the reason Trump has been able to dismantle all his policies (or trying to). Congress is broken. They care more about political victories than what is good for the country. Part of the reason is this 60 vote majority needed for cloture. The minority is allowed to filibuster forever.I believe the rules need to be changed, even if it may be to the detriment of the republicans in the future. I believe any administration and party in the majority should have the right to implement what they think is right, whether they are republican or democrats. Eventually, the bad laws will be thrown out by the other party. It just so happens that it is the republican's turn right now.I can not fault Trump for anything. He is doing everything he promised, which is refreshing. He is not a king and he needs congress to pass legislation. I don't blame Trump, I blame congress.

I would like to go on record here and say Erin Burnett is smoking hot!