So you show again how obsessed you are with another poster. This isn't a place designed to suit those like you. It isn't an echo chamber. It is a public forum.
You have a strange fixation in claiming other people are obsessed with you. You should look into that with a therapist.
You are too stupid to realise you have just demonstrated - again - what I said about your obsession.
I guess we should put you in the front of the few who mean nothing in the sport.
Weak? The American record is 27:48 (excluding Mark Nenow's ineligible 27:23). A 27:27 still puts him in the top-200 performance all-time. New Zealand's is 27:28 by both twins. 27:27 is not bad for a non-African. The fastest non-African on the road is Jimmy Gressier from France with a 27:07. Under the circumstances, 27:27 is not all that bad, especially considering the lack of specific training for this race.
When we look at small numbers like 1.5 and 3 and 5, "curiousdude" told me that 10 was close enough to 5. Jakob ran well for 10. 21.1 is not all that close to these small numbers. It's unsurprising that an athlete training and racing 1500m all season cannot maintain race speeds for 1 hour. Even Jakob knew this, as he warned us that he might not be able to finish.
I disagree. 27.27 is not a fast time. Yes, Gressier did 27.07 and 26.58 in the 10000m. -So how does this place him on the international scene? Answer: 13th in the Olympics. And no wins even on the very weak European battle ground. And the Europeans that are better than him -Almgren (26.52 -10000m) -didn’t qualify to the Final in his last champs, and even the very strong Ndikumwenayo (26.49) isn’t a global medalist, for now…
Jakob isn’t even the best in Norway (because one really has to include the track times since 10k is an involving event) -the 13.20 guy Sondre Nordstad Moen did NR 27.24 a few years ago, and he clearly isn’t a 10k runner. And I just rewatched Nordås’ typically very bizarre 27.31 race, a 1500m runner far from his best long run shape that was 4 sec shy of Jakob’s time with worse pacing: He seemed to jog over the finish line, more interested in tumbling with his watch than an all out performance. -He must nevertheless have past about five to seven guys in the last hundreds of meters; I don’t know what his problem is -if he is afraid of fatigue or what, but he never seems to be all out in the road races. (When he ran his 5k NR he claimed that he easily could have run 10-12 sec faster, and beaten the ER, and didn’t recognise that he had a guy 5 sec ahead of him..!) And we also get Julian Wanders way ahead of Jakob -what has he done on the international scene..? And now a new European record holder (27.04) who has a 5000m pb some 1/2 minute worse than Jakob.
Conclusion: 27.27 is pedestrian compared to what Jakob has shown in events that isn’t that much shorter -he is very near being the most decorated all time athlete in the neighbouring event. -A guy who claims to be better in the 10 than in the 5. Very near cognitive dissonance if you ask me…
"Tailoring" track schedules isn't altering the core principles of his method and it isn't what is meant by "event specificity" here. Lydiard's method was focussed on the athlete not the event.
What else can "event specificity" possibly mean? What we are talking about here is that no one is going to run a world-leading half-marathon off of a season of 1500m training and racing. They need to train for and peak for the half-marathon distance and time. When you train to race between 3.5 and 13 minutes, you might be able to race for 30 minutes, and you might not be able to race for an hour. Among those familiar with training, we've known that since Lydiard in the '60s and earlier.
Of course, Lydiard ultimately focused on the important races for his athletes, and geared everything about their training towards that. The later phases of Lydiard's training are undebatably event specific, as he gets the athletes to peak for racing.
Don't you know anyone who can explain to you how training works?
Your arguments are your usual semantic nonsense. "Event specificity" doesn't mean minor variations in track schedules. It means an entirely different programme based on the event in question. That wasn't Lydiard. He used the same basic programme for athletes of all distances. That also appears to be Ingebrigtsen's approach - with less mileage than Lydiard.
"A few people here" means nothing in the sport. A 10k record that is weak by international standards. He ended up running the HM slower than the women's wr.
I guess we should put you in the front of the few who mean nothing in the sport.
Weak? The American record is 27:48 (excluding Mark Nenow's ineligible 27:23). A 27:27 still puts him in the top-200 performance all-time. New Zealand's is 27:28 by both twins. 27:27 is not bad for a non-African. The fastest non-African on the road is Jimmy Gressier from France with a 27:07. Under the circumstances, 27:27 is not all that bad, especially considering the lack of specific training for this race.
When we look at small numbers like 1.5 and 3 and 5, "curiousdude" told me that 10 was close enough to 5. Jakob ran well for 10. 21.1 is not all that close to these small numbers. It's unsurprising that an athlete training and racing 1500m all season cannot maintain race speeds for 1 hour. Even Jakob knew this, as he warned us that he might not be able to finish.
His 10k "record" isnt world class. End of debate. His HM performance is even weaker than that. This from an athlete who has claimed the HM is his "best" distance. Even he doesn't come up with the stupid and nauseating excuses you do.
This is his level, curiousdude. He shows it in THOUSANDS of posts.
Name me any running related thread in which he has posted, name me a site number in the thread in which he has had a few posts, and I'm pretty sure I can show you a lot of childish behaviour of him.
"Childish behaviour" is responding to your unending personal attacks of another poster with the contempt they deserve. You offer nothing more.
I have not atacked anybody.
That you - for example - often lie about what you have written in the past, is a fact.
We were talking about the 10k here. But in his overall training he has claimed that it is most suited for the HM…
He also disclaimed that before the race, due to a long season focused on training and racing 1500m, when he said he would be excited to see if he could even finish this first test at the longer distance.
He didn't change his training to focus on the 1500. He merely raced those distances with the training he had adopted. How did that make him slower over longer distances, when he said his training was suited to those distances? Indeed, if it wasn't suited - as you and others claim - it is unlikely he would have entered the event, like virtually any other md runner. He didn't enter to walk.
I guess we should put you in the front of the few who mean nothing in the sport.
Weak? The American record is 27:48 (excluding Mark Nenow's ineligible 27:23). A 27:27 still puts him in the top-200 performance all-time. New Zealand's is 27:28 by both twins. 27:27 is not bad for a non-African. The fastest non-African on the road is Jimmy Gressier from France with a 27:07. Under the circumstances, 27:27 is not all that bad, especially considering the lack of specific training for this race.
When we look at small numbers like 1.5 and 3 and 5, "curiousdude" told me that 10 was close enough to 5. Jakob ran well for 10. 21.1 is not all that close to these small numbers. It's unsurprising that an athlete training and racing 1500m all season cannot maintain race speeds for 1 hour. Even Jakob knew this, as he warned us that he might not be able to finish.
I disagree. 27.27 is not a fast time. Yes, Gressier did 27.07 and 26.58 in the 10000m. -So how does this place him on the international scene? Answer: 13th in the Olympics. And no wins even on the very weak European battle ground. And the Europeans that are better than him -Almgren (26.52 -10000m) -didn’t qualify to the Final in his last champs, and even the very strong Ndikumwenayo (26.49) isn’t a global medalist, for now…
Jakob isn’t even the best in Norway (because one really has to include the track times since 10k is an involving event) -the 13.20 guy Sondre Nordstad Moen did NR 27.24 a few years ago, and he clearly isn’t a 10k runner. And I just rewatched Nordås’ typically very bizarre 27.31 race, a 1500m runner far from his best long run shape that was 4 sec shy of Jakob’s time with worse pacing: He seemed to jog over the finish line, more interested in tumbling with his watch than an all out performance. -He must nevertheless have past about five to seven guys in the last hundreds of meters; I don’t know what his problem is -if he is afraid of fatigue or what, but he never seems to be all out in the road races. (When he ran his 5k NR he claimed that he easily could have run 10-12 sec faster, and beaten the ER, and didn’t recognise that he had a guy 5 sec ahead of him..!) And we also get Julian Wanders way ahead of Jakob -what has he done on the international scene..? And now a new European record holder (27.04) who has a 5000m pb some 1/2 minute worse than Jakob.
Conclusion: 27.27 is pedestrian compared to what Jakob has shown in events that isn’t that much shorter -he is very near being the most decorated all time athlete in the neighbouring event. -A guy who claims to be better in the 10 than in the 5. Very near cognitive dissonance if you ask me…
"Childish behaviour" is responding to your unending personal attacks of another poster with the contempt they deserve. You offer nothing more.
I have not atacked anybody.
That you - for example - often lie about what you have written in the past, is a fact.
It isn't a fact. It is just one of your lies. But as you show again, you do nothing but play the man not the ball. You are obsessed with me as a poster. Even the bores who hold similar views to you about Ingebrigtsen don't share your obsession with me.
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