NXN 2023 Way too early preview: Dawn of a new Era

anyone know how I can watch a video of nike hole in the wall?

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Jesse Owens Classic 2023 - Boys Gold (Raw)

MileSplits official Boys Gold raw results for the 2023 Jesse Owens Classic, hosted by Lawrence County HS in Oakville AL.

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Torrey pines got 3rd at hole in the wall, interesting. Neil won as expected. No course record, he is 10 seconds off. CDA beat jesuit, expected that too but it was a close battle.

scores??

68-86-171 cda, jesuit, torrey pines

Full results for Hole in the Wall

Interviewer and josh seem to imply that the weather was fair enough for good performances. So no German Fernandez performance of 14:24 woodward is still the most impressive performance on California soil.

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Asics Clovis Cross Country Invitational - Videos - Joshua Bell 5th Place Rob Brenner Boys Championship Race - ASICS Clovis Cross Country Invitational 2023

Joshua Bell, a senior at Templeton High in California, finished fifth in the Rob Brenner boys championship race at the 44th ASICS Clovis Invitational at Woodward Park in Fresno, Calif. Bell covered the 5-kilometer layout in 1...

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Comparing courses Great American vs Woodward Park based on strava data

- according to elevation/pace change woodward doesn't look like a hard course. Despite some rolling terrain it only had 1-2 moment of real climb. I would give it a 5 in difficulty max.

- Great American had 4-5 moments of real climb. I would give it a 7.5 maybe 8 in difficulty.

- Most strava data for Great American shown around 3.04

- Most strava data for Woodward Park shown around 3.13

- I didn't bother trying to average the strava data distances, I just skimmed through it. (took way too much time last time I did it)

I will do an analysis of hole in the wall next

not many runners recorded their race with their watch for hole in the wall so Strava didn't bother to group all the data together. The one runner I did find had 3.12 and the course looks to be fast, even the starting elevation was slightly higher than the finishing elevation. I would give it a 1 in difficulty. I don't know how accurate the 3.12 is because It was only 1 runner.

Regarding other data points I found early on -

Woodbridge averaged 3.015. That course looks to be a 1 in difficulty.

Huntsville averaged 3.14. That course was also a 1.

Mook averaged 3.107. That course was like a 2 maybe 3 can't exactly remember.

La Vern Gibson course averaged 3.19-3.2. That course was looked like a 2 in difficulty

Remember looking at Bob Firman course, didn't look very difficult so that confused the heck out of me? Maybe it's the changing surface and altitude?

Great American speed ratings.

Looks like many of Calvert Hall’s varsity didn’t run as fast as some of their JV guys

maybe i would give woodward a 4 in difficulty and great american a 7 when compared to these other courses

It was 84 during elite races at Hole in the Wall. Elevation up and downs, large portions on gravel and tight turns make course at least a 3.

Yeah looking at the pace changes it has more of that then Lavern Gibson. But Lavern Gibson looks actually looks like a 1 on Strava.

I would take what I say here not so seriously, it is just for fun. I highly doubt I know more than the experts.

Just ignore what I say, Strava is all over the place when it comes to elevation and pacing change. The distance comparison is comparable though

I'm throwing Hole in the Wall results out at the moment for these teams... was a complete HOT MESS with kids passing out left and right, what a crapshoot. Amazing anomaly +19 degrees hotter than usual and the Elite races ran at peak temps at like 3-4pm. Some kids managed really well, but not going to be indicative come Boise.

soft ngl. The California runners didn’t let the heat effect their performances at Clovis. But whatever, they train in it anyway.

It didn’t effect Torrey pines either

Preview of the past two weeks!!!!

Southwest -

Herriman - 179,177,175,175,174 - utah region 2

American Fork - 186,179,179,174,172 - utah region 3

Riverton - 180,180,177,168,164 - utah region 2

Niwot - 183,181,175,174,172 - Desert Twilight

Lone Peak - NA

Valor Christian - 185,172,171,165,165 - Portland XC

American Fork and Herriman are still the top 2 teams in the nation. Riverton and Lone Peak looked as if they were falling behind early season. However, they picked up the slack and are now able to compete at a very high level. They have build experience and fitness to get to where they are at now. Utah teams were pretty relaxed these two weeks as they prepare for the state championships. For Colorado teams, 1 team in particular stood out, Niwot. Niwot is a very young team with lots of depth, they won the Desert Twilight Festival with impressive speed ratings. We will see which of the 5 teams will be able to go to NXN. Colorado's Valor Christian won the Portland XC festival.

California -

Dana Hills - 194,183,179,173,165 - Clovis Invitational

Great Oak - 180,176,175,174,173 - Clovis Invitational

Oakdale - 186,181,177,169,166 - Clovis Invitational

San Clemente - 179,178,172,170,167 - Clovis Invitational

Road racing season is pretty much over and transfers are now allowed to race. Dana Hill's experience at Bob Firman was invaluable to them. As they now have the experience racing more difficult courses, with the addition of their transfer, they were able to win the prestigious Clovis Invitational 5k. For the other California teams, this was the first time racing a more difficult course. Many teams tanked including the following teams: Ventura, St Francis, Beckman, and many others. For many Californians it was a rude mid season awakening, to switch from a flat speed course to a tough course. The heat was also well handled by the California teams and did not play an effect into their performances on this course. Expect California teams to come back much stronger at State as they further build experience with more difficult courses such as Mt Sac.

Northwest -

Coeur D'Alene - 184,182,176,173,170 - Nike Hole in the Wall

Jesuit - 185,177,171,171,170 - Nike Hole in the Wall

Rocky Mountain - 183,180,171,167,164 - Bob Conley

Boise Senior - 175,174,174,171,167 - Twilight XC

Crater - NA

Nike Hole in the Wall was a fast 5k course with some sharper turns but overall pretty fast. However, it was significantly hotter than normal, temperatures being close to 80 degrees for the championship races. Many Northwest teams don't have experience running well in hotter temperatures and struggled to run fast times on the warm course. Hole in the Wall was a two man battle between Coeur D'Alene and Jesuit. Coeur D'Alene won and Jesuit came in second. There was a significant gap to the third place team which came from California, Torrey Pines. Torrey Pines, a team that typically finishes close to Newbury Park, was much better adjusted to the warmer temperatures, and performed better than expected. Crater seems to be in the down low for now. Boise Senior won twilight xc festival. Bob Conley Invitational was won by Rocky Mountain.

South -

Southlake Carroll - 188,182,181,179,177

Deer Creek - 183,182,170,169,166

Bentonville - 180,174,171,168,163

Jesuit LA - 189,179,179,165,162

Austin Vandegrift - NA

Southlake Carroll has their eyes set on the NXN title. After their second place finish to Herriman at woodbridge, the group has regrouped and put up some impressive speed ratings at meets in Texas. Southlake Carroll now knows what to expect when facing national level competition, and is starting to race more difficult courses, with hopes to build experience coming NXN. Deer Creek suprised everyone to win the Chile Pepper Festival. The took the win over Bentonville. Jesuit La faced a competitive field at Nike Twilight Invitational, they came in third to plainsfield and Carmel. Austin Vandegrift is on standby.

Northeast

Christian Brothers Academy - 189,187,178,177,175

Westfield - 182,180,178,177,172

There is actually another team with insane speed ratings here, forgot name -

Two teams to watch out for big time in the Northeast are Christian Brothers Academy and Westfield. Both teams had extremely impressive speed ratings. The question is are they as good as their speed ratings suggest? We will find out at nationals!!!!!! I don't know much about Northeast, but I feel like most courses are wet and muddy, very different course year to year. It is harder to compare these courses to their past course.

Midwest -

Carmel - 186,183,176,169,168

Carmel won the Nike Twilight Festival

Southeast -

Belen Jesuit - 192,188,180,179,176

Belen Jesuit is one of the strongest teams in the nation. The won the Great American Classic with an insane team time.

New York -

Fairport - 183,177,174,170,168

Fairport is aiming to make a case that New York deserves it's own region by placing top 10 at NXN.

Brookline MA and Ridgefield CT seem like solid teams in the NE.