It's worth noting that 9 of the 10 states with the highest number of covid deaths per capita are blue states and 17 of the 20 states with the least number of covid deaths per capita are red states. Considering it is the governor that has the most influence on the covid approach at the state level, I fail to see how Trump should be shouldering the blame for this. Especially when the Dems were critical of the travel bans early on.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
Under Trump we're going to have over 100K dead of the virus, the largest budget deficit in history, and double digit (or close to it) unemployment. That's not ruining the country?
Hello, McFly? Show me other countries who have shut down and still have booming economies at the moment.
"Hello McFly"? You realize he was the dumb@ss in that movie and the whole series, right? Just perfect that you would quote him, because you are him. You are Letsrun's biggest idiot. You are Biff. That is now your nickname. Nice going, Biff.
joedirty wrote:
It's worth noting that 9 of the 10 states with the highest number of covid deaths per capita are blue states and 17 of the 20 states with the least number of covid deaths per capita are red states. Considering it is the governor that has the most influence on the covid approach at the state level, I fail to see how Trump should be shouldering the blame for this. Especially when the Dems were critical of the travel bans early on.
just because people actually want to live in blue states so those places have dense urban populations doesn't mean Trump was right to downplay the epidemic and fail at leading the nation.
Smorbun wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Hello, McFly? Show me other countries who have shut down and still have booming economies at the moment.
"Hello McFly"? You realize he was the dumb@ss in that movie and the whole series, right? Just perfect that you would quote him, because you are him. You are Letsrun's biggest idiot. You are Biff. That is now your nickname. Nice going, Biff.
Your time on LR is running out, Sourbuns.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
semsurrrrrrrr wrote:
You’re too stupid to realize that you just got owned again.
Turkey First ??????
And you're voting for a senile candidate.
Enjoy your loss & thanks for playing.
What you say is what you are.
https://medium.com/@whitfieldlarrabee/like-father-like-son-the-troubling-problem-of-dementia-trumps-white-house-1ed5b7f232d2Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Smorbun wrote:
"Hello McFly"? You realize he was the dumb@ss in that movie and the whole series, right? Just perfect that you would quote him, because you are him. You are Letsrun's biggest idiot. You are Biff. That is now your nickname. Nice going, Biff.
Your time on LR is running out, Sourbuns.
You are wrong, Biff.
hussein aint got no brain wrote:
Great day today!!!!
Flynn acquitted and totally exonerated.
Texas hair salon owner freed and the incompetent Obama appointed judge (black/democrat piece of trash) put in his place.
Democrats lose again!!!
And the House Intel on Russia has been released proving the "Collusion!" garbage, was exactly that, garbage.
The liberals are getting crushed... and they did it to themselves.
amirite? Yes, I am. wrote:
hussein aint got no brain wrote:
Great day today!!!!
Flynn acquitted and totally exonerated.
Texas hair salon owner freed and the incompetent Obama appointed judge (black/democrat piece of trash) put in his place.
Democrats lose again!!!
And the House Intel on Russia has been released proving the "Collusion!" garbage, was exactly that, garbage.
The liberals are getting crushed... and they did it to themselves.
Your great day just went to sh!t bois, amirite? ???
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/852464328/former-georgia-police-officer-and-his-son-arrested-in-the-death-of-ahmaud-arberyIn with the general population please ?
May 6th - Biden calls for justice.
May 7th - two suspects arrested for murder.
Coincidence?
semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:
May 6th - Biden calls for justice.
May 7th - two suspects arrested for murder.
Coincidence?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52557609
Yes, definitely coincidence. People in south Georgia never even heard of Joe Biden.
amirite? Yes, I am. wrote:
hussein aint got no brain wrote:
Great day today!!!!
Flynn acquitted and totally exonerated.
Texas hair salon owner freed and the incompetent Obama appointed judge (black/democrat piece of trash) put in his place.
Democrats lose again!!!
And the House Intel on Russia has been released proving the "Collusion!" garbage, was exactly that, garbage.
The liberals are getting crushed... and they did it to themselves.
It is a great day for those who who hate honesty and ethics. The devil is smiling.
5/7 data
nope, still no good news.
Globally, 7 day average change in daily deaths: +2% per day
US: +4%
I've started looking at a simple 7 day average of deaths....that measure is probably the best and it does show some improvement, to 5,225 deaths per day. The highest number was 6658, in mid-April. The slope downward has been fairly steady.
So by that measure, we've seen some solid improvement globally and in the US.
USA continues to get worse relative to other nations in terms of per capita deaths . We were 16th worst, then 15th worst, then 14th worst, now we are 13th worst. Yes many of those nations we' 'passed' are miniscule minor nations like the Channel Islands.
Sweden is steady in 10th place.
Trump did it!
Broke the all time high for unemployment rate: 14.7%.
As he would say, we're seeing numbers no one has ever seen before. We're seeing seeing records broken.
And he broke Reagan's record of 10.8% by a huge margin - bigly.
L L wrote:
Trump did it!
Broke the all time high for unemployment rate: 14.7%.
As he would say, we're seeing numbers no one has ever seen before. We're seeing seeing records broken.
And he broke Reagan's record of 10.8% by a huge margin - bigly.
I'm kind of playing devil's advocate here, but, even with the benefit of hindsight, how would you recommend that the president minimize covid-19 deaths while still keeping unemployment low? I fail to see any course of action that could have allowed businesses to stay open while still keeping infections at a manageable level.
CountChocula wrote:
L L wrote:
Trump did it!
Broke the all time high for unemployment rate: 14.7%.
As he would say, we're seeing numbers no one has ever seen before. We're seeing seeing records broken.
And he broke Reagan's record of 10.8% by a huge margin - bigly.
I'm kind of playing devil's advocate here, but, even with the benefit of hindsight, how would you recommend that the president minimize covid-19 deaths while still keeping unemployment low? I fail to see any course of action that could have allowed businesses to stay open while still keeping infections at a manageable level.
it would have been bad no matter who was leading the country. But not this bad.
But this admin's flubbing of the testing program has been epic, and will go down as a failure as large as the Iraq War.
We should have spent a bloody fortune making test kits and testing infrastructure so we could test and trace. That is what better led nations are doing, so they can keep deaths down while opening the economy.
agip wrote:
USA continues to get worse relative to other nations in terms of per capita deaths . We were 16th worst, then 15th worst, then 14th worst, now we are 13th worst. Yes many of those nations we' 'passed' are miniscule minor nations like the Channel Islands.
Sweden is steady in 10th place.
This "ranking" is determined by two things:
1) How well a nation and its leaders have handled the crisis.
2) When the virus started to widely spread.
Because of #2, we won't fully know about #1 for awhile.
The same logic applies to our US states and territories. While New York has most deaths per capita right now, it's entirely possible that an open state like Texas or Georgia will surpass New York eventually.
There's nothing Trump could have done about the unemployment situation under the pandemic.
But he's first to take credit for good news that he didn't contribute to.
So he's stuck with this historical moment.
Now it's about his words and actions in handling it going forward.
And he constantly contradicts himself.
He surrounds himself with doctors and gives guidelines to safely reopen things.
Then he encourages protesters to break his guidelines.
He absolves himself of responsibility by pushing everything on the governors to manage the bad things.
The states need funding because they are the ones that handle the initial unemployment claims and suffer from lack of tax income.
But he allows Mitch McConnell to block that funding and suggest states go bankrupt.
Trump is not leading on this. He's just pushing people's buttons and encouraging political divisiveness.
Trump needs to step up and say the obvious that the economy sucks right now and will suck for the rest of the year.
Instead he gives false hope and claims it will snap back quickly and greatly.
He said the virus would be gone in April and here we are in May with growing problems.
Part of this situation is his lack of planning and proper communication.
Trump is showing that he is not the right leader for a crisis situation.
agip wrote:
CountChocula wrote:
I'm kind of playing devil's advocate here, but, even with the benefit of hindsight, how would you recommend that the president minimize covid-19 deaths while still keeping unemployment low? I fail to see any course of action that could have allowed businesses to stay open while still keeping infections at a manageable level.
it would have been bad no matter who was leading the country. But not this bad.
But this admin's flubbing of the testing program has been epic, and will go down as a failure as large as the Iraq War.
We should have spent a bloody fortune making test kits and testing infrastructure so we could test and trace. That is what better led nations are doing, so they can keep deaths down while opening the economy.
Furthermore, we could have adopted what many other nations have done. The government just directly backstops people's paychecks. That way, everyone stays employed and are able to stay home while we defeat the virus.
That is the "course of action that could have allowed businesses to stay 'open' while still keeping infections at a manageable level."
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
USA continues to get worse relative to other nations in terms of per capita deaths . We were 16th worst, then 15th worst, then 14th worst, now we are 13th worst. Yes many of those nations we' 'passed' are miniscule minor nations like the Channel Islands.
Sweden is steady in 10th place.
This "ranking" is determined by two things:
1) How well a nation and its leaders have handled the crisis.
2) When the virus started to widely spread.
Because of #2, we won't fully know about #1 for awhile.
The same logic applies to our US states and territories. While New York has most deaths per capita right now, it's entirely possible that an open state like Texas or Georgia will surpass New York eventually.
Sweden just jumped the Netherlands, now it is 9th worst. After being 10th worst for a while.
It's plan was to suffer at the begging but suffer less aferwards. That improvement is not happening. Norway and Finland continue to have far fewer per capita deaths.
agip wrote:
USA continues to get worse relative to other nations in terms of per capita deaths . We were 16th worst, then 15th worst, then 14th worst, now we are 13th worst. Yes many of those nations we' 'passed' are miniscule minor nations like the Channel Islands.
*minuscule