2013 College Coaching Positions Open(ing)

He is suppose to interview at Tennessee soon.

ButhumsCookedMon wrote:

How does someone like Garfield Ellenwood stay in the profession as a drug cheat, with the NCAA violations and always trying to steal athletes from others schools? Sounds like he represents just about everything that is wrong with the sport.

This is weird.

can anyone else confirm Abbot resigning?

Fem bot wrote:

Big hiring day for female head coaches. Buford-bailey and now Jeanette Bolden. Upward mobility in the women's coaching world. Go ladies.

Are these moves really upwardly mobile? Okay, Texas will certainly pay Tonja better than Illinois, but at IL she could run her own show. And as for Bolden, is going from UCLA to UCF really any kind of move UP? Sure, UCF is on a hot streak at the NCAA level, but they are still a lesser known program when compared to the prestige of UCLA...

While the moves may seem odd, one has to also consider if this is also a good opportunity outside of the NCAA. Austin and Orlando are great and cheap place to live. Maybe that was attractive too. Also, Austin has all the great facilities which may be a great potential to get Pro athletes to train under them. I would think a lot of pro athletes aren't looking to train in Illinois weather. That has to be another exciting aspect as well.

TBB to Texas makes complete sense. More money, better weather for training, no need for indoor, more marketable program.

Bolden to UCF is interesting. Could be money, could be a need for change?

yep yep wrote:

This is weird.

can anyone else confirm Abbot resigning?

It's true. What is confusing about connecting a job posting with an actual departure? The fact that college coaching is not always a bed of roses is discussed on here all the time, but when a coach makes a proactive decision to leave the profession nobody can fathom why. Go figure.

Scott has three or four kids and worked in a low paying job where there was limited room for continued growth. He did a great job with what he had to work with at Sacramento State, but it is an assistant cross and track job. The head title is held by the head of the program. It's little more than an entry level position in the coaching world.

Not sure is he will continue coaching, a decision that would likely require a move from the area where he has roots in the ground.

It is strange because at the Big Sky meet he seemed happy to be at Sac State. I know Sac State doesn't give scholarship support in the distances, and I am sure he didn't always see eye to eye with his head coach, but I did not get the sense that he wanted to leave or get out of coaching.

Nope, Bolden would have to face Smith-Gilbert at USC. Basically she would have to work. Not a good hire for UCF at all.

Is it me, or has the administrative side of track and field/cross country coaching and hiring become WAY more political lately? I think we have all seen the kinds of backroom dealings with football and basketball, and now it seems to have come into our sports as well. AD's now cold calling people and convincing them to take jobs. Coaches bailing out on commitments from one place to another in a matter of hours. People being hired without the job even being posted. HR folks must be pulling their hair out. Good coaches (heads or assistants) are left jobless without any warning or reason. The trend has been slowing working its way through our sports for the past few years, but this summer has been crazy. I am not sure what this all means. Is this good for our sport? Do we WANT to be like football and basketball in this way? I have always thought of track & field and cross country as being more of the "ethical" sports in collegiate athletics. Now I am not so sure. Thoughts?

Yup, sucks, better get a helmet....

But remember, there are very very very few high profile Track & Field jobs, and being that most are at high profile institutions it makes sense that it's being done behind closed doors, no one has the amount of time to look through all the applications for Track and XC jobs, too few positions and too many people wanting to move on/up/ or into the ranks. I'm sure there are easily over 100 applications for every full-time D1 job, no matter the school, if you're an AD(or more likely an Associate AD for Track hirings) and you know someone at another school that can recommend to you on who to fill it, why not just take your "buddy's" word and save yourself the trouble of sifting through all the app's. It's all about who you know, those that have been in the profession awhile know this, for you newbies take lessons from the character "Bob Benson"

Why did Bolden depart UCLA? At one point she was the sole head coach over women. Then they combined the programs under Mike Maynard. Mike is highly organized and forward thinking. Bolden is completely disorganized. Maybe she didn't like being demoted (even though she held the title of head women's track coach) and not having total autonomy. AT UCF she will once again be able to do what she wants. Makes perfect sense.

People, as much as we would all love this thread to get clutter by everyone's opinion on everything pertaining to our sport...... Can we all agree to keep the thread on topic here?

That said, what's the word on OU filling Smiths job?

Abbott retiring was more of a family thing slash needing to provide a better situation for them than anything else. Probably didn't hurt that his job paid little and he was required much.

Very respectable to feel burdened but not let people lead on to that. His athletes benefitted from a great attitude.

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Not so fast on that. Sategna named head track coach of combined program at Texas, interim head coach, Rose Brimmer turned down an associate head coach position. Odds are that Hayes will take that position. No positions advertised on Texas website

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Hays is definitely gone at Texas, talked to him in Des Moines.

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OK, what are his options and where is he going, if you spoke to him?

I just heard from several Western Kentucky University athletes that their long time women's distance coach Michelle Scott got canned. Not sure if there were any other "voluntary quits".

Haha. So true!

UNCG coach to Toledo

Big Sky wrote:

It is strange because at the Big Sky meet he seemed happy to be at Sac State. I know Sac State doesn't give scholarship support in the distances, and I am sure he didn't always see eye to eye with his head coach, but I did not get the sense that he wanted to leave or get out of coaching.

Have you ever not seen that guy happy?!

do all the new coaches decide on new scholarships/recruits or get them to transfer with them? if so how do they have enough time to do that before semester starts?

Student-athletes cannot just change schools at their own will;

There are too many NCAA rules regarding credit hours and progress toward degree. Credits are lost during transfer and athletic administrators will not willing let current student-athletes depart with a departing coach depleting the remaining team.