The article was initially entiteld, "Zane Robertston!!!!" but we changed it to make it more descriptive. Here is our article on his bust and fake excuses (he said he went to a hospital for a COvid-19 vaccine but they gave him EPO instead) which points out that in 2016 he expressed frutation at the amount of doping in the sport:
I guess it depends on what "nearly" and "almost" means, as to whether your "story" can be considered "non-fiction".
But surely you can provide the link to the data for these "nearly 50 (doping positives) in little over a year"?
Otherwise how do you figure? Do you even know what are you counting, over which "year", to arrive at "nearly 50 in little over a year"?
By my count, assuming you mean the year 2022, my most generous total, looking at ADAK and AIU websites, is 43 suspensions plus sanctions that can be linked to 2022.
At first glance, you could be forgiven thinking that 43/52 is 0.83 per week, or "almost one".
But then, in order to arrive at 43, we had to stretch backwards to count 7 violations from samples in 2021 and forward to include 3 sanctions from 2023, spanning a period of 93 weeks.
The 43 also includes 3 "whereabouts" and 2 "failure to submit samples" -- strictly speaking, not "doping positives".
Strictly counting just the "doping positives" from 2022, gives 31 over 52 weeks, or 0.59 per week. Strictly counting 38 "doping positives" over 93 weeks from mid-July 2021 through the end of April 2023 gives 0.41 per week.
It is fascinating how applying exactly the same exercise with figures reduces your IQ by the same amount.
In other words, when simply asked to explain what are you talking about, you cannot provide any link, nor can you explain what you are counting, nor over what period.
For someone who likes to pretend that I'm always downplaying Kenyan doping by fact-checking, in just one sentence, you:
- Undercounted the number of Kenyan Olympic gold medals (once again demonstrating your inability to accurately inform yourself with a simple 5-minute internet search)
- Exaggerated the number of Kenyan doping positives
- Undercounted the time period for these doping positives
- As a consequence, exaggerated the average weekly rate of Kenyan doping positives
If you believe the Kenyan doping problem is serious on its own merit, why do you need to lie about virtually every aspect of it, downplaying performance and exaggerating doping, instead of properly informing yourself and conveying accurate information? This is the action of someone who is intellectually insecure about the strength of his beliefs, so needs to embellish reality, or worse, someone who is simply ignorant of the facts, and therefore doesn't realize his disconnection with reality.
And still nothing from the doper apologists in response to this. They prefer to talk about Kenyan "achievements" before 1980.
Maybe because there are no doping apologists on this thread.
You all are. That's why you argue about the measly number of gold medals Kenya won before 1980 to deflect from the thread topic, which is about doping.
LOL. In 4 minutes, I could find 5 Olympic Golds for Kenya.
Good research.
It was about men's track distance running.
Since early January Armstronglivs is unable to check 15 events. From 3 Olymic Games.
But he knows Snell's two Golds from 64, so in fact there are just 13 events to check.
He fails. Since four months. With Internet connection. After the subject was discussed here over and over again. He is just stupid .
But he thinks he understands the extremely complex doping issue.
It's like someone who fails in understanding fractions claimes to have proved the Riemann hopethesis.
It's "claims", and "hypothesis" (Gee, all in one sentence). But on this from Athletics Illustrated - silence.
"The rate of (Kenyan) doping positives is off the charts; thirty athletes have been suspended during 2022 alone."
"Imagine if 30 Canadian, British, Australian, or American athletes were suspended in a 10-month stretch. For many countries, the athletics program would be decimated. Currently, there are approximately 70 athletes from Kenya serving suspensions for reasons related to anti-doping."
Maybe because there are no doping apologists on this thread.
You all are. That's why you argue about the measly number of gold medals Kenya won before 1980 to deflect from the thread topic, which is about doping.
You are wrong. And the thread topic is doping by Zane Robertson, a subject you seem to avoid.
It is just past 5:30 a.m. in New Zealand. Did you just wake up and came here to lie about us being doping apologists?
It is fascinating how applying exactly the same exercise with figures reduces your IQ by the same amount.
In other words, when simply asked to explain what are you talking about, you cannot provide any link, nor can you explain what you are counting, nor over what period.
For someone who likes to pretend that I'm always downplaying Kenyan doping by fact-checking, in just one sentence, you:
- Undercounted the number of Kenyan Olympic gold medals (once again demonstrating your inability to accurately inform yourself with a simple 5-minute internet search)
- Exaggerated the number of Kenyan doping positives
- Undercounted the time period for these doping positives
- As a consequence, exaggerated the average weekly rate of Kenyan doping positives
If you believe the Kenyan doping problem is serious on its own merit, why do you need to lie about virtually every aspect of it, downplaying performance and exaggerating doping, instead of properly informing yourself and conveying accurate information? This is the action of someone who is intellectually insecure about the strength of his beliefs, so needs to embellish reality, or worse, someone who is simply ignorant of the facts, and therefore doesn't realize his disconnection with reality.
Yep - the more he says the more his IQ keeps falling.
You all are. That's why you argue about the measly number of gold medals Kenya won before 1980 to deflect from the thread topic, which is about doping.
You are wrong. And the thread topic is doping by Zane Robertson, a subject you seem to avoid.
It is just past 5:30 a.m. in New Zealand. Did you just wake up and came here to lie about us being doping apologists?
Please seek help. I mean this sincerely.
So you have just learned to tell the time. Well done. But there's an awful lot you still have to learn - such as about doping in Kenya, which is where Robertson was based. You are yet another who ducks what Athletics Illustrated says, which is that Kenya should be banned.
5 - big deal. None of that can match nearly 140 doping positives between 2004 and 2018 - and about 40 over the last year. Kenyan athletes dope far more than they win. A cheater nation.
The big deal is that you could only come up with 3.
Yawn. So Kenya got 5. NZ got 5 golds in the same span of time, from 1960-76. And it didn't include second tier events like the steeple and a relay.
But with only 2 dopers in its entire running history, NZ has a long way to catch Kenya, which notches up about 2 a month.
The big deal is that you could only come up with 3.
Yawn. So Kenya got 5. NZ got 5 golds in the same span of time, from 1960-76. And it didn't include second tier events like the steeple and a relay.
But with only 2 dopers in its entire running history, NZ has a long way to catch Kenya, which notches up about 2 a month.
All those endless "discussions" are just because of your complete incapability of just giving some correct informations.
You have not listed some "same span of time" - because you are stupid. You can't count above three, you can't use google, you lack any common sense (trying to give correct statistics is "doping apologism" to you).
Be happy if you find a wrong written word (are you aware that there are non English-speaking countries?) - so you can distract from all your nonsense.
"Many" Kenyans dope. If you want to have a fair comparison to other countries, you have to look on more than just the no. of positives. But explaining this to you - someone who can't count above three - is doomed to fail.
The big deal is that you could only come up with 3.
Yawn. So Kenya got 5. NZ got 5 golds in the same span of time, from 1960-76. And it didn't include second tier events like the steeple and a relay.
A Gold in the 4x400m (even with the non-participation of the USA) for a country like Kenya is a tremendous proof of running strength (also it's non-distance running).
Why could they beat much more accomplished teams like Germany, GB or Poland? The GDR didn't even participate - because they know all of their runners were clean and without any chance against those doped up Kenyans?
Maybe because there are no doping apologists on this thread.
You all are. That's why you argue about the measly number of gold medals Kenya won before 1980 to deflect from the thread topic, which is about doping.
You put that into this thread. And all those pages are just because you are too stupid to give correct informations to the most easy subjects.
Yep - the more he says the more his IQ keeps falling.
I've heard of studies where informed people who are constantly exposed to misinformation, become more misinformed. It's like watching Fox News makes both smart and dumb people dumber. I wouldn't doubt that my repeated interactions correcting all of your misinformation for so long has negatively impacted my IQ.
What I can guarantee is, that if my IQ were measured and the number were published, and you read the publication, you would surely get the number wrong, and that error would grow over time.
Yep - the more he says the more his IQ keeps falling.
I've heard of studies where informed people who are constantly exposed to misinformation, become more misinformed. It's like watching Fox News makes both smart and dumb people dumber. I wouldn't doubt that my repeated interactions correcting all of your misinformation for so long has negatively impacted my IQ.
What I can guarantee is, that if my IQ were measured and the number were published, and you read the publication, you would surely get the number wrong, and that error would grow over time.
Since early January Armstronglivs is unable to check 15 events. From 3 Olymic Games.
But he knows Snell's two Golds from 64, so in fact there are just 13 events to check.
He fails. Since four months. With Internet connection. After the subject was discussed here over and over again. He is just stupid .
But he thinks he understands the extremely complex doping issue.
It's like someone who fails in understanding fractions claimes to have proved the Riemann hopethesis.
It's "claims", and "hypothesis" (Gee, all in one sentence). But on this from Athletics Illustrated - silence.
"The rate of (Kenyan) doping positives is off the charts; thirty athletes have been suspended during 2022 alone."
"Imagine if 30 Canadian, British, Australian, or American athletes were suspended in a 10-month stretch. For many countries, the athletics program would be decimated. Currently, there are approximately 70 athletes from Kenya serving suspensions for reasons related to anti-doping."
You are still unable to respond to this. It's easy to see why. But keep deflecting to a world that no longer exists, before 1980, so you can avoid an embarrassing present.
Yawn. So Kenya got 5. NZ got 5 golds in the same span of time, from 1960-76. And it didn't include second tier events like the steeple and a relay.
But with only 2 dopers in its entire running history, NZ has a long way to catch Kenya, which notches up about 2 a month.
All those endless "discussions" are just because of your complete incapability of just giving some correct informations.
You have not listed some "same span of time" - because you are stupid. You can't count above three, you can't use google, you lack any common sense (trying to give correct statistics is "doping apologism" to you).
Be happy if you find a wrong written word (are you aware that there are non English-speaking countries?) - so you can distract from all your nonsense.
"Many" Kenyans dope. If you want to have a fair comparison to other countries, you have to look on more than just the no. of positives. But explaining this to you - someone who can't count above three - is doomed to fail.
Are there no dopers in Ethiopia?
Deflection. There is no argument that Kenya is the only country that dopes. But it is currently the worst.
Athletics Illustrated is a prominent sports publication. You, on the other hand, are "someone on the internet". And as dumb as you are prejudiced.
Whatever "prominent sports publication" means. Fox News is also prominent.
The article you quoted was clearly marked "editorial" and "opinion". The passages you quoted made such an impression on you were mostly colorful and emotional, and what little data there was, there are more accurate first hand sources.
You should also be careful what you copy/paste as "All original content on this website is copyright protected and cannot be reprinted or recreated in any way without the express written consent of Athletics Illustrated".
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