Southwest so screwed; look at this Riverton only finished 4 points behind herriman 2023 at their league meet. Riverton and Lone Peak might be better than Herriman 2022, so that means no at-large for Niwot.
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2 at-large should go to southwest
the other 2 at-large will be split between california, southeast, northwest. Don't think south is contention unless Austin Vandegrift gets 3rd which I don't think will happen.
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trailrunner86 wrote:
2 at-large should go to southwest
the other 2 at-large will be split between california, southeast, northwest. Don't think south is contention unless Austin Vandegrift gets 3rd which I don't think will happen.
Not sure about Southeast getting an at-large. Depends on if the SE schools are healthy come NXR. In fact, I don’t even know who the #2 team in that region is. (Belen is the clear #1)
Farragut needs a 5th runner and McCallie had some guys missing last meet. Both teams almost got beat by some other random TN school in their recent races.
At Paul Short, Calvert Hall lost to two schools I’ve never heard of. They had some guys missing or further back than expected.20 -
goalz wrote:
trailrunner86 wrote:
2 at-large should go to southwest
the other 2 at-large will be split between california, southeast, northwest. Don't think south is contention unless Austin Vandegrift gets 3rd which I don't think will happen.
Not sure about Southeast getting an at-large. Depends on if the SE schools are healthy come NXR. In fact, I don’t even know who the #2 team in that region is. (Belen is the clear #1)
Farragut needs a 5th runner and McCallie had some guys missing last meet. Both teams almost got beat by some other random TN school in their recent races.
At Paul Short, Calvert Hall lost to two schools I’ve never heard of. They had some guys missing or further back than expected.I meant northeast. not southeast. Northeast, California, Northwest.
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trailrunner86 wrote:
goalz wrote:
Not sure about Southeast getting an at-large. Depends on if the SE schools are healthy come NXR. In fact, I don’t even know who the #2 team in that region is. (Belen is the clear #1)
Farragut needs a 5th runner and McCallie had some guys missing last meet. Both teams almost got beat by some other random TN school in their recent races.
At Paul Short, Calvert Hall lost to two schools I’ve never heard of. They had some guys missing or further back than expected.I meant northeast. not southeast. Northeast, California, Northwest.
I think CBA and Westfield are the only 2 nationally elite teams in the Northeast. Are there any others in that region?
I do agree with Northwest though. This region is loaded especially when Crater comes back to full strength
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goalz wrote:
trailrunner86 wrote:
I meant northeast. not southeast. Northeast, California, Northwest.
I think CBA and Westfield are the only 2 nationally elite teams in the Northeast. Are there any others in that region?
I do agree with Northwest though. This region is loaded especially when Crater comes back to full strength
speed ratings said they were 3 in that region
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trailrunner86 wrote:
Southwest so screwed; look at this Riverton only finished 4 points behind herriman 2023 at their league meet. Riverton and Lone Peak might be better than Herriman 2022, so that means no at-large for Niwot.
This looks close to a dual meet between Herriman and Riverton. Riverton’s 3rd was 27 seconds ahead of their 4th. Wonder how this will play out in a larger, more competitive field like NXR and NXN.
Speed ratings will be something to see
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Murb wrote:
Top 2 boys teams in each region currently IMO
California
Great Oak CA / Ventura CA / San Clemente CASouthwest
Herriman UT / American Fork UT / Lone Peak UT / Riverton UT / Niwot COMidwest
Northwest
Coeur D’Alene ID / Jesuit OR / Crater ORSouth
Southlake Carroll TX / Austin Vandegrift TXSoutheast
Belen Jesuit Prep FLNortheast
CBA NJ / Westfield NJ / Brookline MTHeartland
Stevens Point WINew York
Fairport NYRevised list
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Niwot would be ahead of Riverton at regionals. Riverton's 5th is too far back. At regionals that would add on a huge amount of points and would Niwot ahead.
At 2022 regionals the difference between 14:44 and 15:21 is 10 pts, whereas the difference between 15:40 and 16:00 is 35 pts. The placement of the 5th runner will determine top 4 teams and Niwot's 5th is much better than Riverton's.
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Niwot would be ahead of Riverton at regionals. Riverton's 5th is too far back. At regionals that would add on a huge amount of points and would Niwot ahead.
doubt it. prove it at regionals
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see 6ish teams at NXR SW put all 5 sub 16:00, pretty good considering that Coyote Run still has some light hills and turns to it.
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Downers Grove North results
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The guy who finished a half second behind Ruco Culpepper(Niwot #1) to place 3rd at the recent Arizona race ran 14:33 3 mile at Woodbridge.
Herriman had 7 guys under 14:35 at Woodbridge. That is 7 Ruco Culpeppers.
Are you telling me that Niwot can beat a team that scored 4 points less at a league meet than a team with 7 Ruco Culpeppers?
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7rucoculpeppers wrote:
The guy who finished a half second behind Ruco Culpepper(Niwot #1) to place 3rd at the recent Arizona race ran 14:33 3 mile at Woodbridge.
Herriman had 7 guys under 14:35 at Woodbridge. That is 7 Ruco Culpeppers.
Are you telling me that Niwot can beat a team that scored 4 points less at a league meet than a team with 7 Ruco Culpeppers?
This is referring to the comment about Niwot beating Riverton at nxr. Remember 7 Ruco Culpeppers lol
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Looks like DGN took that race as a work out or something. They were significantly better than those teams just a few weeks ago.
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visuallearner wrote:
Looks like DGN took that race as a work out or something. They were significantly better than those teams just a few weeks ago.
They were almost missing their #1 from last year’s NXN (Weber).
Hinsdale Central has really fallen off from last year after graduating so many guys.
Plainfield South finished second at Niketown, which is very good considering they graduated 4 guys and their 3rd returner out from an injury
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It’s getting closer to post season so many of the kids are just running faster. This is especially true if you’re in a competitive sectional where your team might not make it out to the State Championship. So kids are getting closer to peaking so they have an individual shot at qualifying.
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Speed ratings for Riverton vs Herriman are up
Riverton
180
180
177
168
164
Niwot (at Desert Twilight)
183
181
175
174 (ran in the Championship but not the Sweepstakes race)
172
171
170
169
So Niwot actually has 8 guys faster than Riverton’s 4th. An in fact, Niwot’s top 2 are better than Riverton’s top 2 (according to the speed ratings)
Niwot’s 6th and 7th can displace Riverton’s 4th and 5th runners, and on a bigger field like NXR, this will give Riverton even more points from positions 4 and 5.
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