Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

I'm still waiting for his email. (Handle is not directed at you, but DD).

-Amal

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So let me get this straight... because you TRULY know a Colonel you therefore know that Gore and the Dems would have done the exact same thing? That is TRULY extraordinary. So tell me, since I was TRULY a Marine Corps sergeant, what kind of impossible things should I know?

eric a blair wrote:

You guys. You aren't going to believe this. Trump has flip flopped. He's saying we need to let in Mexicans to do work Americans won't do.

Putting the flip-flop aside, this argument has always bothered me.

Americans are not lazy by nature. We have always been willing to do whatever job needs doing. But that assumes that said Americans are paid a fair wage.

The problem is not with American workers. The problem is with American employers.

Fat hurts wrote:

eric a blair wrote:

You guys. You aren't going to believe this. Trump has flip flopped. He's saying we need to let in Mexicans to do work Americans won't do.

Putting the flip-flop aside, this argument has always bothered me.

Americans are not lazy by nature. We have always been willing to do whatever job needs doing. But that assumes that said Americans are paid a fair wage.

The problem is not with American workers. The problem is with American employers.

disagree. I think it's pretty clear that citizens of wealthy nations will not become farm workers at the prevailing wage, or dishwashers.

You can argue some theory that the wage should be higher, but zero skill jobs in low prestige industries will have problems staffing up with Americans.

And higher wages will make US companies uncompetitive and raise prices for everyone.

Then there is the problem of Americans who are too lazy to learn a trade, which has left millions and millions of jobs unfilled, hurting the economy and US companies.

Yes please indeed... wrote:

Sore losers, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Sore losers? Wow dude, you have no clue. The behavior of this president and the actions of those close to him both during the campaign that we are now finding out about and since the election is what has most Americans unhappy with him.

This isn't about winning and losing...at least for me it isn't, and it shouldn't be for you either. There is more than enough evidence now to show that Trump has no morals and that just about everyone associated with the White House is either a bumbling idiot or lies like a rug or both. Time for you to desert your team, bother. Stick to the Republican Party or the Libertarians if you must, but to have any alliance to Trump is foolhardy.

Turns out all this Fake News isn't fake at all. Trump is a fake President. I say there is enough evidence right now to show collusion so, and I never thought I would ever say this, I agree with Charles Krauthammer. Cheaters are stripped of "victories", so it looks like I was right when I said Trump had ZERO chance to win...he's a cheater, and cheaters have to give their medals back.

Fat hurts wrote:

The problem is not with American workers. The problem is with American employers.

Wrong. American Consumers are the actual problem.

eric a blair wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Putting the flip-flop aside, this argument has always bothered me.

Americans are not lazy by nature. We have always been willing to do whatever job needs doing. But that assumes that said Americans are paid a fair wage.

The problem is not with American workers. The problem is with American employers.

disagree. I think it's pretty clear that citizens of wealthy nations will not become farm workers at the prevailing wage, or dishwashers.

You can argue some theory that the wage should be higher, but zero skill jobs in low prestige industries will have problems staffing up with Americans.

And higher wages will make US companies uncompetitive and raise prices for everyone.

Then there is the problem of Americans who are too lazy to learn a trade, which has left millions and millions of jobs unfilled, hurting the economy and US companies.

Americans are not lazy!

And yes, I argue that the wages should be higher and anyone working in the US should be paid a living wage.

Anyone who works for a living has self-respect. But at starvation wages, self-respect devolves into exploitation.

Fat hurts wrote:

eric a blair wrote:

disagree. I think it's pretty clear that citizens of wealthy nations will not become farm workers at the prevailing wage, or dishwashers.

You can argue some theory that the wage should be higher, but zero skill jobs in low prestige industries will have problems staffing up with Americans.

And higher wages will make US companies uncompetitive and raise prices for everyone.

Then there is the problem of Americans who are too lazy to learn a trade, which has left millions and millions of jobs unfilled, hurting the economy and US companies.

Americans are not lazy!

And yes, I argue that the wages should be higher and anyone working in the US should be paid a living wage.

Anyone who works for a living has self-respect. But at starvation wages, self-respect devolves into exploitation.

dude. The low workforce participation rate and the massive amount of people fraudulently claiming disability show that tens of millions of Americans are very lazy indeed.

But to me the more interesting question is if this is the sort of thing that could cause trumpers to give up on Trump. There is no issue closer to the Trumper's heart than 'keep out the immigrants.'

Trumpers! any comment? You ok with more immigrants?

He might win.

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Caitlyn Jenner will be an option for Republican voters.

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eric a blair wrote:

You guys. You aren't going to believe this. Trump has flip flopped. He's saying we need to let in Mexicans to do work Americans won't do.

Can you believe it? That paragon of honesty and truthfulness and consistency...flip flopping! Has he done this before?

Well no matter. It won't happen again, so remember this one. That Trump wants more immigrants.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/17/trump-officials-order-15000-new-visas-for-low-wage-workers/?utm_term=.295a081341d7

Trump has a decades long track record of schlonging the forgotten man for personal gain. Trump is looking out for his own interests, which are far more aligned with big city liberal elites than the forgotten man.

eric a blair wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Americans are not lazy!

And yes, I argue that the wages should be higher and anyone working in the US should be paid a living wage.

Anyone who works for a living has self-respect. But at starvation wages, self-respect devolves into exploitation.

dude. The low workforce participation rate and the massive amount of people fraudulently claiming disability show that tens of millions of Americans are very lazy indeed.

But to me the more interesting question is if this is the sort of thing that could cause trumpers to give up on Trump. There is no issue closer to the Trumper's heart than 'keep out the immigrants.'

Trumpers! any comment? You ok with more immigrants?

How many do you think are fraudulently claiming disability?

As for workforce participation rate, I don't see how that applies to this argument at a time when we basically have full employment. We also have huge numbers of boomers retiring every day which drives the LFPR downward.

Of course, a few are lazy. But as a group, we're willing to work as hard as anyone else. Just pay a living wage. Make it a job to be proud of and Americans will step up.

After another long weekend spent golfing, Trump is now on live TV posing for pictures in a fire truck. Nothing wrong with that except the man is obsessed with appearing to be powerful. Reminds me of this:

https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_12/1942826/170323-trump-truck-white-house-636p_0010a810c277423f29fba2c33b773261.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg

Laziness: Every rich country is chock full of lazy bones people. That's why Europe has a high unemployment rate, that's why we have so many millions out of the work force. You can live a decent life without work in rich nations.

Workforce particip rate: That shows that people are choosing not to work. Many arent' counted in the unemployment rate because they stopped looking. They are cool just chilling. Video games, meth, cheap food.

Disablity: It's massively fraudulent. Look at graphs like this one.

eric a blair wrote:

Laziness: Every rich country is chock full of lazy bones people. That's why Europe has a high unemployment rate, that's why we have so many millions out of the work force. You can live a decent life without work in rich nations.

Workforce particip rate: That shows that people are choosing not to work. Many arent' counted in the unemployment rate because they stopped looking. They are cool just chilling. Video games, meth, cheap food.

Disablity: It's massively fraudulent. Look at graphs like this one.

https://radio.foxnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/DISABILITY.jpg

Just because someone chooses not to work doesn't mean they are lazy. Lots of them are retired. Lots stay home to raise a family. Lots are simply well enough off that they can do charity work. The LFPR is not a measure of laziness.

Also, your graph is massively fraudulent. It does not in any way measure the level of fraud.

But even if it did you should note that your graph only goes to 2012. Since then the number of applications has been falling and the number of people coming off of disability has been rising.

TroLLminator wrote:

After another long weekend spent golfing, Trump is now on live TV posing for pictures in a fire truck. Nothing wrong with that except the man is obsessed with appearing to be powerful. Reminds me of this:

https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_12/1942826/170323-trump-truck-white-house-636p_0010a810c277423f29fba2c33b773261.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg

As an American, that picture is so, so embarrassing. We basically have a 4 year-old as POTUS.

seriously? A 50% rise in recipients and your eyebrow isnt' even risen?

LFPR is a crude number, yes. But when you break it down to prime working age people, you also get a falling number. Which is just laziness and alienation. With a dose of pharmaceutical and entertainment industry help.

the number of people on disagbility has fallen in 2015 and 2016, but by half a percent and one percent. hardly a dent in the massive rise over the past decade.

It is certainly is embarrassing. Not sure if that's more embarrassing than his public speaking abilities though.

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/a-full-transcript-of-donald-trumps-black-history-month-1791871370

Yes, I know a Colonel. I knew that would be your response, typical. Your Colonel Sanders shows your true ability to respond with intelligence. No, you're wrong and confusing only yourself. Gore would have invaded Iraq and most Democrats are honest enough to admit that. Sorry your side loss and I can feel your frustration thru your words. It'll be a rough 7 years for you, but try your best to not get too upset.