Describe Your Running Today, Part II

Thanks for sharing your calculations. I think the difference is that I am not referring to a world record caliber athlete. I'm sure the ratio would be different for athletes of differing abilities. Unfortunately Hoffman's track calculator continues to be down, but I think a Purdy points conversion would put a 5:20 mile pretty close to 11:40.

Hey! wrote:

WR mile/2mile = .47

WR 1500/3000 = .47

(I've seen .47 in other double comparisons.)

5:20 divided by .47 = 11:21.

11:40 is quite slow for a 5:20 miler and does not agree with most equivalency charts I've seen, nor with the comparisons I have just shown.

Thanks.

Hey!

Jammer wrote:

I'm happy to respond to your civil question. First, the "4 second rule" you cite is hardly widely accepted among knowledgeable coaches. It is a lazy person's method for avoiding a more meaningful calculation.

I'm not sure what you think "roughly" means, but I'd say the performance charts would suggest at least something close to 11:40 or more for an equivalent time. A conversion using VO2max percentages yields 11:44.

I'm not taking any sides, but has anybody used this calculator?

http://merv.stanford.edu/runcalc

This says 5:20 1600 = 11:11 3200

I don't know - I think this is used a lot more for longer distances (less of a difference in pace when doubling the distance)

Plug in a bunch of stuff and let me know what seems accurate and inaccurate!

So basically Jmmer (who is obviously also Knower and Running Dogg)was wrong when he said

"".....your implication that a 5:20 mile converts to an 11:20 deuce speaks volumes about your knowlege (or lack thereof)."

LOL. Hes not just a liar but an ignoramus.

I really think he believed that his posted8x800 or 4x1200 converts to a 19-20 5k and he was genuinely surprised when people said why did you race so slow. ;)

Okay all dumping, intervals aside, etc., here's my $.02 addition.

Yesterday (Wed.) No run.

Today; for 52:31, like Tues., a steady solid run AHR 148 MHR 164. Pushed the last 400 m uphill finish.

5:30am - 7 miles in 49:00

LOLOLOLOL wrote:

So basically Jmmer (who is obviously also Knower and Running Dogg)was wrong when he said

"".....your implication that a 5:20 mile converts to an 11:20 deuce speaks volumes about your knowlege (or lack thereof)."

LOL. Hes not just a liar but an ignoramus.

I really think he believed that his posted8x800 or 4x1200 converts to a 19-20 5k and he was genuinely surprised when people said why did you race so slow. ;)

I don't think he was wrong given that there are several acceptable ways to convert times. My own calcs would put a 5:20 miler at 11:37+ for 2M. Take it for what it's worth.

42' AM run....cold rain...no dogs

8am - 10 miles in 1 deg weather

staying in bed sounds like a good idea............ if you're a p*ssy

Last 2 days:

30:00 on treadmill at gym. Started slow then worked up to 8.6MPH at the end.

Starting to feel much better at the end of my runs and afterwards versus using the Maffetone protocol. Not stiff and loggy.

When I run with a slower group in my club I am always painful the next day. Odd.

(tiptoe-ing in so as not to wake the troll sleeping in the corner...)

Let's see, where'd I leave off? Oh well....

Thursday: 5 x 1M @ 100% vVO2max, rest = work - 45"

Friday: 76' easy, lifting, massage

Saturday: 50' with last 25' @ tempo pace

(...quietly sneaking out of the room)

Oh thank god you are back Running Dogg. You haven't posted here in like....days, Man. Where on earth were you? Phew!

So how fast were those 1M runs, seeing as you "easily" cruise 1200s in sub 3:40, and once did 8x800m av 2:03?

Running Dogg wrote:

(tiptoe-ing in so as not to wake the troll sleeping in the corner...)

Let's see, where'd I leave off? Oh well....

Thursday: 5 x 1M @ 100% vVO2max, rest = work - 45"

Friday: 76' easy, lifting, massage

Saturday: 50' with last 25' @ tempo pace

(...quietly sneaking out of the room)

Scrooooggge

Yesterday, Friday. No run.

Today, for 43:31. Steady pace buildup. AHR 145 MHR 160.

You, Running Dog, do not know the weight of the chain you bear for telling all these lies.....it was as long as Marley's 7 years ago, and you have laboured upon it since.....

Certainly Not Skuj wrote:

You, Running Dog, do not know the weight of the chain you bear for telling all these lies.....it was as long as Marley's 7 years ago, and you have laboured upon it since.....

I'm not Running Dogg here, I'm just wishing the posters on this thread would adhere more to what the title of this thread entails. Of course my previous post didn't help matters any1.

Marley wrote:

Certainly Not Skuj wrote:

You, Running Dog, do not know the weight of the chain you bear for telling all these lies.....it was as long as Marley's 7 years ago, and you have laboured upon it since.....

I'm not Running Dogg here, I'm just wishing the posters on this thread would adhere more to what the title of this thread entails. Of course my previous post didn't help matters any1.

True. It says Describe Your Running Today not Fantasize About Your Running Today And Then Decsribe That Fantasy As If It Was Real.

Oops, I guess I have to work on that stealth thing.

Anyway, no run today. Day off! I had a long night and just snuck out of bed for a quick potty break. Got to get back before she knows I'm gone. It could be a long, hard morning. :-)

Have a great day, all!

There are so many trolls here it's like being in Middle Earth.Your Mom is calling you..........

Running Dogg wrote:

Oops, I guess I have to work on that stealth thing.

Anyway, no run today. Day off! I had a long night and just snuck out of bed for a quick potty break. Got to get back before she knows I'm gone. It could be a long, hard morning. :-)

Have a great day, all!

Good treadmill run.

3.84 miles in 30:00, starting off at 8.2MPH to warm up then finishing at under 7-flat pace. MHR hit 152.

Things are starting to improve.