The article was initially entiteld, "Zane Robertston!!!!" but we changed it to make it more descriptive. Here is our article on his bust and fake excuses (he said he went to a hospital for a COvid-19 vaccine but they gave him EPO instead) which points out that in 2016 he expressed frutation at the amount of doping in the sport:
You don't construct arguments; you simply brag about how well you construct arguments. You are also wrong.
This doesn't look like a sound argument based on data and observations, but I expect nothing relevant from someone who cannot successfully perform a 5-minute internet search, and instead makes himself look like an ignorant fool for months.
You always focus on what is trivial or irrelevant - and still get it wrong. You never listed the former Kenyan world record holders against the events from 800-marathon when asked to do so, because there were so few of them. They are more than outnumbered by the Kenyans who incur doping positives in a year.
This doesn't look like a sound argument based on data and observations, but I expect nothing relevant from someone who cannot successfully perform a 5-minute internet search, and instead makes himself look like an ignorant fool for months.
You always focus on what is trivial or irrelevant - and still get it wrong. You never listed the former Kenyan world record holders against the events from 800-marathon when asked to do so, because there were so few of them. They are more than outnumbered by the Kenyans who incur doping positives in a year.
My focus is on sound arguments based on data and observations. This is not trivial or irrelevant, but pretty much the only thing that really counts, if you want to describe events in the real world.
Whatever I did or didn't do doesn't even begin to explain why you denied an easily verifiable non-debatable fact for months. You insisted over and over and over that there were only 2, then 4, then 6 world records, and not 10. But now you know what everyone else knew months ago, only thanks to me. You're welcome.
I didn't list the Kenyans, because "slowwer" already had three months earlier, and because I predicted you could not find it on your own, given the three month failure to complete a 5-minute search. I dragged you to the trough of knowledge with all my might, nearly pushing you in, and you still wouldn't take a drink, insisting instead that I scoop it into your gaping gob.
You always focus on what is trivial or irrelevant - and still get it wrong. You never listed the former Kenyan world record holders against the events from 800-marathon when asked to do so, because there were so few of them. They are more than outnumbered by the Kenyans who incur doping positives in a year.
My focus is on sound arguments based on data and observations. This is not trivial or irrelevant, but pretty much the only thing that really counts, if you want to describe events in the real world.
Whatever I did or didn't do doesn't even begin to explain why you denied an easily verifiable non-debatable fact for months. You insisted over and over and over that there were only 2, then 4, then 6 world records, and not 10. But now you know what everyone else knew months ago, only thanks to me. You're welcome.
I didn't list the Kenyans, because "slowwer" already had three months earlier, and because I predicted you could not find it on your own, given the three month failure to complete a 5-minute search. I dragged you to the trough of knowledge with all my might, nearly pushing you in, and you still wouldn't take a drink, insisting instead that I scoop it into your gaping gob.
You made a claim that you refused to back up. The reasons were obvious. Only 4 Kenyan world record-holders over 12 events from the 800m-marathon in 16 years. That was fewer than NZ over a similar span. But it was an irrelevant deflection. It didn't show that, from its entry into international competition, Kenya was in a league of its own for running talent. It's pretty much in a league of its own for doping, however - as Lord Coe pointed out in 2022. That is apparently the true Kenyan tradition. Your meaningless nitpicking doesn't get around that. It never does. It is fortunate you were never a serious sportsman. The thrashing you would inevitably receive would be crippling.
You made a claim that you refused to back up. The reasons were obvious.
The reasons were indeed obvious. We wanted you to find the information yourself. Just because you were unable to do so, doesn't mean you get others to do the work for you.
You made a claim that you refused to back up. The reasons were obvious. Only 4 Kenyan world record-holders over 12 events from the 800m-marathon in 16 years. That was fewer than NZ over a similar span. But it was an irrelevant deflection. It didn't show that, from its entry into international competition, Kenya was in a league of its own for running talent. It's pretty much in a league of its own for doping, however - as Lord Coe pointed out in 2022. That is apparently the true Kenyan tradition. Your meaningless nitpicking doesn't get around that. It never does. It is fortunate you were never a serious sportsman. The thrashing you would inevitably receive would be crippling.
Yes the reasons are obvious, to everyone but you apparently. What claim did I make? Let's remind you who claimed what and who backed up what.
The claim of 10 world records came from "slowwer" and he backed it up three months ago. You even quoted it back in January, so you can hardly claim ignorance (on the other hand, if not general ignorance, what else can explain it?)
Then, for the next three months, you curiously still adamantly insisted that it was not 10 world records. You colossally failed to back that up.
Only then, after three months, I bothered to look and I found the records, succeeding in a 5-minute search where you failed for three months. I claimed I found it and I claimed you could not find it, giving you many many many clues -- even where to find your own quote -- because I knew you would flap around like a fish, still not finding the missing answers, but pretending you were smart anyway. You backed that up in spades.
Oh, then I backed up "slowwer's" claim -- again. You have a funny way of expressing gratitude for ending your months of flapping. You just move along to the next thing to flap about.
Your "safe space" of Kenya's recent doping problem today cannot help you hide your demonstrated ignorance of easily retrievable track history from the '60s and '70s. It's all the more odd since you pretend to be so knowledgeable about that era from your youth.
You made a claim that you refused to back up. The reasons were obvious.
The reasons were indeed obvious. We wanted you to find the information yourself. Just because you were unable to do so, doesn't mean you get others to do the work for you.
You were the guys making the claim. You aren't bright enough to realise it was your job to support it, not mine.
You consistently refused to list the Kenyan world record holders against the events from 800-marathon when asked to do so. It was obvious why. There were only a measly 4 of them. Such a pitiful digression from a thread about yet another case of doping from Kenya - where there are way more dopers than world record-holders. Just because you think a trivial and irrelevant point is important doesn't make it so. But it's all you've got.
The reasons were indeed obvious. We wanted you to find the information yourself. Just because you were unable to do so, doesn't mean you get others to do the work for you.
You were the guys making the claim. You aren't bright enough to realise it was your job to support it, not mine.
Au contraire -- you were not bright enough to comprehend it was supported months ago.
You consistently refused to list the Kenyan world record holders against the events from 800-marathon when asked to do so. It was obvious why. There were only a measly 4 of them. Such a pitiful digression from a thread about yet another case of doping from Kenya - where there are way more dopers than world record-holders. Just because you think a trivial and irrelevant point is important doesn't make it so. But it's all you've got.
Yes -- the reasons were obvious because I gave them at the time.
You were the guys making the claim. You aren't bright enough to realise it was your job to support it, not mine.
Au contraire -- you were not bright enough to comprehend it was supported months ago.
Job done.
It wasn't. It never answered the question I posed of listing record holders next to the events from 800-marathon. None of you would do it because it wouldn't look good. But by all means cling to your huge mass of 4 Kenyan record-holders before 1980. Oh, dear - that's fewer than from a country of only 3 million in a similar span. But how many Kenyans have been suspended in the last couple of years? We are losing count of that.
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You consistently refused to list the Kenyan world record holders against the events from 800-marathon when asked to do so. It was obvious why. There were only a measly 4 of them. Such a pitiful digression from a thread about yet another case of doping from Kenya - where there are way more dopers than world record-holders. Just because you think a trivial and irrelevant point is important doesn't make it so. But it's all you've got.
Yes -- the reasons were obvious because I gave them at the time.
You always say what you have done. Because you haven't done it.
The reasons were indeed obvious. We wanted you to find the information yourself. Just because you were unable to do so, doesn't mean you get others to do the work for you.
You were the guys making the claim. You aren't bright enough to realise it was your job to support it, not mine.
I didn't make any claim. I was following the thread, saw you asking for the information, and just told you where to find it.
I am bright enough to realize that you are not entitled to demand anything from anyone else. And still you were told where to find the information you requested.
I was doing you a favor, and you insult me. That's not nice of you.
Au contraire -- you were not bright enough to comprehend it was supported months ago.
Job done.
It wasn't. It never answered the question I posed of listing record holders next to the events from 800-marathon. None of you would do it because it wouldn't look good. But by all means cling to your huge mass of 4 Kenyan record-holders before 1980. Oh, dear - that's fewer than from a country of only 3 million in a similar span. But how many Kenyans have been suspended in the last couple of years? We are losing count of that.
No sense moving the goalpost. You said: "You were the guys making the claim. You aren't bright enough to realise it was your job to support it, not mine."?
It wasn't. It never answered the question I posed of listing record holders next to the events from 800-marathon. None of you would do it because it wouldn't look good. But by all means cling to your huge mass of 4 Kenyan record-holders before 1980. Oh, dear - that's fewer than from a country of only 3 million in a similar span. But how many Kenyans have been suspended in the last couple of years? We are losing count of that.
No sense moving the goalpost. You said: "You were the guys making the claim. You aren't bright enough to realise it was your job to support it, not mine."?
That job was done in January.
Keep thrashing that dead horse. Now explain what relevance it has to another thread about doping in Kenya.
You were the guys making the claim. You aren't bright enough to realise it was your job to support it, not mine.
I didn't make any claim. I was following the thread, saw you asking for the information, and just told you where to find it.
I am bright enough to realize that you are not entitled to demand anything from anyone else. And still you were told where to find the information you requested.
I was doing you a favor, and you insult me. That's not nice of you.
You couldn't front up with it yourself because it showed how few record holders there were. Only 4 in 16 years. Smaller countries have done better.
No sense moving the goalpost. You said: "You were the guys making the claim. You aren't bright enough to realise it was your job to support it, not mine."?
That job was done in January.
Keep thrashing that dead horse. Now explain what relevance it has to another thread about doping in Kenya.
Of course it's not relevant -- it was you who brought Kenyan pre-1980 world records into this thread by alleging "slowwer" "fabricated the number who broke world records before 1980."
That claim was completely debunked three months ago, but you still doubled-down on stupid.