Makhloufi will race today (1st race since 2016)

Thanks for the study - very interesting.

quarter squat runner wrote:

They look like quarter squats to me, which is better for running.

Coevett wrote:

small lessen for Mr. dumb wrote:

Exactly, Coevette. What the poster believes or not has no impact on the question of who is an all-time great and who isn't. For sure it's great to see an Olympic champion and one of the fastest ever over 800m/1500m back on the track.

Do you know the meaning of the word "believe"? If someone believes something he doesn't know it.

Disgusting doping apologism. We have no way of knowing for certain whether Kiprop was a doper when he won Olympic gold but only a hardcore doping fan would be overjoyed to see him back.

If I believed an athlete was dirty, I wouldn't consider him great at anything, and I certainly wouldn't get excited at seeing him race again.

I can't know for sure if Kiprop is guilty to doping or not because there are so many strange things

with the sampling and so on and even the meeting in London . But I really believe he is innocent . It looks like he will be back 2022 with a new coach and attack some records.

Jack Scarface wrote:

I can't know for sure if Kiprop is guilty to doping or not because there are so many strange things

with the sampling and so on and even the meeting in London . But I really believe he is innocent . It looks like he will be back 2022 with a new coach and attack some records.

It would be crazy and awesome if Kirop and Big Mac were to get gold and silver at the 2022 World Champs.

Only thing crazier would be Ramzi coming back and getting bronze behind them, but I guess he'd be too long in the tooth by then. But maybe with enough rocket fuel inside of him. We can dream, haha.

just wondering . . . wrote:

small lessen for Mr. dumb wrote:

1) We don't know if Makhloufi is a doper so he must be called one of the greats.

2) I strongly believe Coe was a doper, so he is not one of the all-time greats.

You can choose between those two, Coevette.

I agree, I find more believable that Makhloufi is clean than Coe. Coe often trained in Italy, which Italy was very dirty back than(think coevett if who moved to Kenya after it got too hot in Italy). The PED test until recently was more of a IQ test than what it is today. I don't think they had out of competition testing till 1988. Blood transfusions, totally legal till after the 84 games. Makh looks like his is built to run fast. Coe looks like he is meant to run marathons.

Eh...,

1) makh was coached by Aden

2) makh spends extensive periods in Kenya

3) makh is Algerian

#1 should be enough.

How do you know Kiprop is making a comeback in 2022?

Evidence??? wrote:

How do you know Kiprop is making a comeback in 2022?

He'll only be 33 in 2022.

You just provided basic addition. Donald Trump will be 76 in 2022, but that does not help.

So many athletes get busted, and could come back 4 years later while still in their tail end prime years, and just walk away. Obviously I do not set up google alerts on every single Kenyan and Russian that gets popped, but you get my point.

I am asking does anyone have some kind of article of evidence that Kiprop has stated he fully intends to come back? Also, where the hell did all of his money go? The dude made multi millions, and claims he is broke. Where did he spend it all in Kenya?

I know he was driving a 7 series.

Ok, this is the strangest tweet. The dude just states "EPO!", and nothing else. Is he endorsing it? Did he develop some kind of tourettes syndrome?

Who the hell advises him on his social media?

LMAO, I love how 70 people liked it.

Haha, very good point. I am now concerned as to whether he just putters around verbalizing nonsense..."EPO!"..."Testosterone!"

I honestly miss Asbel Kiprop news. This dude is a wild card.

T&F is more interesting when Taoufik Makhloufi is racing well. I hope he get's near peak ability soon!

T&F ... more interesting wrote:

T&F is more interesting when Taoufik Makhloufi is racing well. I hope he get's near peak ability soon!

+1

Just realized that Algeria isn't on the IAAF watchlist, so hopefully he can fuel correctly and be down to 1:43/3:30 in a couple of months. Watching Coe squirm when the Gold medal was being put around Big Mac's neck in London was one of my favorite moments in track. And to the poster who said he'd rather believe Big Mac was clean than Coe, I'd double plus that if I could. Big Mac is back baby!

lmao ??? wrote:

LMAO, I love how 70 people liked it.

Now it's been posted on LetsRun it will soon get over 100 or 200 likes.

Kiprop had about 100 followers before he was busted for EPO, now he has over 18K followers.

Kiprop has a reply to you.

https://twitter.com/KipropAsbel/status/1140347477415092227?s=19

A case can be made that Makloufi is clean.

He was the low-key favorite going into London, especially with the undisclosed Kiprop injury. He had run 3:30.8 and won the African Games 800 in 1:43.8 going into the Olympics. He was hardly a nobody.

Nor did he come out of nowhere. His DOB is April 1988. As a college-aged junior and senior he ran:

2009 3:34.34 Roma (ITA) 10 JUL 2009

2010 3:32.94 Monaco (MON) 22 JUL 2010

Recall that Manzano and Centro were second and fourth in the Olympics. Outside of championships, they are routinely middle-of-the-pack guys that rarely contended for DL wins at the time. Fast-forward to 2015 when Makloufi made the same move and was left outside of the medals. He finished behind Kiprop (3:26.6); Manangoi (3:28.6); Igider (3:28.8) and just ahead of Kiplagat (3:27.6). Where were Centro and Leo? 8th and 10th.

What about the years in between?

Mak ran just Pre in 2013 (3:53 IIRC) before not competing again due to injury. In 2014, he ran the whole circuit. He went 3:30 in Doha (the opener); lost the Shanghai 800 with the tongue-wag; PR'd in the 800 in Berlin at the end of August, and won the 1500 DL final in Brussels.

In 2015, he continued where he left off: he ran 3:28.75 at Monaco, 2:13.0 in the 1k, and was 4th in the 1500 at worlds.

In 2016, he was probably the best in the world. He ran 1:42.6 in the 800 behind Rudisha (the GOAT) in the Olympic 800 and then got second in the 1500. Outside of the Olympics, he ran 3:31.3 for third in Monaco and another 1:42 in Paris.

What about 2017? He reinjured a calf injury. 2018? Who knows.

This was my morning laugh. I am starting to like Kiprop more and more.

He handles twitter worse than Trump.

I actually laughed wrote:

This was my morning laugh. I am starting to like Kiprop more and more.

He handles twitter worse than Trump.

I did too. Pretty funny.